New Modders Please Read

Defiance · 03-12-08, 07:00 PM

Hiya's,
Won't vent here, So i'm posting a link so new modders can have a read

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=115994

Please do read i beg of you

It's not rocket science it's basic common sense and common courtacy

Thanks

Def

Ducimus · 03-12-08, 07:20 PM

Not this again.

Defiance · 03-12-08, 07:22 PM

For my post duci ???

Ciao

Def

Dowly · 03-12-08, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Not this again.

:rotfl::rotfl:

Ducimus · 03-12-08, 07:33 PM

I have issues with that particular linked thread. Its the result of one individuals lobbying whos true intent was really for personal gain and maintenance of proprietary behavior, which was thinly guised as a service to the community. Because of how that thread came into existance, intent behind it, and who its key lobbiest was, to me its worth the paper its printed on. It belongs right where it is - The silent hunter 3 mod forum.
I will NOT conduct myself as KL would like me to or has lobbied for. I will NOT have KL dictate to me, proper edicate. Not no.... but HELL NO!

edit:
If that thread was the result of anybody else, i might sing a different tune. But, i see it as nothing more then a result of lobbying by KL to impose his version of ethics upon others. I will operate as i always have, and ill be damned if ill have KL tell me what to do ever again, directly, indirectly, implied or otherwise.

edit:
The only thing a new modder needs to know is
1. do a damn read me, give your damn permissions if you feel inclined
2. dont plagurize other modders and cite your sources

The rest is pork.

Dowly · 03-12-08, 07:49 PM

Didnt everyone have the chance to propose something to the list? And it was then put together by the moderators. :hmm:

CCIP · 03-12-08, 07:55 PM

Just to be direct, that was not a moderator initiative. I personally don't subscribe to them, although the favour of a large group of modders was with it. I don't want to speak for any other moderators, but I don't recall there being much enthusiasm for it among us.

Which is why it's "suggested". It will keep you out of trouble, but I don't think it's a law.

The real point is that modders need to behave ethically and in a way that neither steps on others' toes nor create nonsense situations that deny users access to the best and the latest.

Defiance · 03-12-08, 08:02 PM

Ahh i got ya Duci,

I merely thought a link to that would jog new modders into common decency mode and modding etiquette

Sorry if it touched a raw nerve Duci

(link was for basic etiquette as i say thats all)

Well Have Fun

Ciao

Def

Defiance · 03-12-08, 08:05 PM

CCIP you put it brilliantly

"The real point is that modders need to behave ethically and in a way that neither steps on others' toes nor create nonsense situations that deny users access to the best and the latest"

I cheated and used a link to try to make that point, but what you put is what i should've typed in

Cheers

Ciao

Def

Ducimus · 03-12-08, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Didnt everyone have the chance to propose something to the list? And it was then put together by the moderators. :hmm:

That is true, but it was initiated and lobbied for by aforementioned person, who insisted on a lot of pork being attached to it for his own aims. Because of that, i have always been angry about that thread, and it feels like someones ramrodding their crap down my throat. I catagorically cannot abide by that, period.

This has all be hashed out before. Just seeing that thread being linked makes me gnash my teeth. Remember the moderators had to lock the thread so everyone cooled off for awhile?

Ive spoken my peace on this, and I am saying no more on this subject. It is not worth my time, nor the frustration to rehash this yet again. I got enough to worry about as it is already.

Dowly · 03-12-08, 08:16 PM

Fair enough, and yes, this has been talked over quite a few times, usually ending with a padlock hanging on the frontgate.

M. Sarsfield · 03-13-08, 08:29 AM

That's the first time that I ever read Gizmoe's thread. I can definitely see why that would raise the hair on a lot of necks and I don't agree with a lot of it, either. We'll leave it at that.

03-12-08, 07:00 PM	#1
Defiance Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 908 Downloads: 673 Uploads: 0	New Modders Please Read Hiya's, Won't vent here, So i'm posting a link so new modders can have a read http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=115994 Please do read i beg of you It's not rocket science it's basic common sense and common courtacy Thanks Def

03-12-08, 07:55 PM	#7
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Just to be direct, that was not a moderator initiative. I personally don't subscribe to them, although the favour of a large group of modders was with it. I don't want to speak for any other moderators, but I don't recall there being much enthusiasm for it among us. Which is why it's "suggested". It will keep you out of trouble, but I don't think it's a law. The real point is that modders need to behave ethically and in a way that neither steps on others' toes nor create nonsense situations that deny users access to the best and the latest. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-13-08, 08:29 AM	#12
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That's the first time that I ever read Gizmoe's thread. I can definitely see why that would raise the hair on a lot of necks and I don't agree with a lot of it, either. We'll leave it at that. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

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03-12-08, 07:20 PM	#2
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Not this again.

03-12-08, 07:22 PM	#3
Defiance Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 908 Downloads: 673 Uploads: 0	For my post duci ??? Ciao Def

03-12-08, 07:33 PM	#5
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I have issues with that particular linked thread. Its the result of one individuals lobbying whos true intent was really for personal gain and maintenance of proprietary behavior, which was thinly guised as a service to the community. Because of how that thread came into existance, intent behind it, and who its key lobbiest was, to me its worth the paper its printed on. It belongs right where it is - The silent hunter 3 mod forum. I will NOT conduct myself as KL would like me to or has lobbied for. I will NOT have KL dictate to me, proper edicate. Not no.... but HELL NO! edit: If that thread was the result of anybody else, i might sing a different tune. But, i see it as nothing more then a result of lobbying by KL to impose his version of ethics upon others. I will operate as i always have, and ill be damned if ill have KL tell me what to do ever again, directly, indirectly, implied or otherwise. edit: The only thing a new modder needs to know is 1. do a damn read me, give your damn permissions if you feel inclined 2. dont plagurize other modders and cite your sources The rest is pork.

03-12-08, 07:49 PM	#6
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Didnt everyone have the chance to propose something to the list? And it was then put together by the moderators. :hmm:

03-12-08, 08:02 PM	#8
Defiance Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 908 Downloads: 673 Uploads: 0	Ahh i got ya Duci, I merely thought a link to that would jog new modders into common decency mode and modding etiquette Sorry if it touched a raw nerve Duci (link was for basic etiquette as i say thats all) Well Have Fun Ciao Def

03-12-08, 08:05 PM	#9
Defiance Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK Posts: 908 Downloads: 673 Uploads: 0	CCIP you put it brilliantly "The real point is that modders need to behave ethically and in a way that neither steps on others' toes nor create nonsense situations that deny users access to the best and the latest" I cheated and used a link to try to make that point, but what you put is what i should've typed in Cheers Ciao Def

03-12-08, 08:16 PM	#11
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Fair enough, and yes, this has been talked over quite a few times, usually ending with a padlock hanging on the frontgate.