Cold-War Era SH5

[The General]

Ok, I've never done this before but I'll give it a try. It's a Poll to see who agrees with me and thinks that SH5 should be Cold-War era Nukes and Diesel/Electric Russian and American subs going head-to-head in the Atlantic?

I urge you to read some of the postings below before voting, thanks.

[The General]

If the Devs start now, Ubisoft could have it on the shelves by the first quarter of 2009. Just a little joke there.

[Bluesub 6]

I had played Cold-War Era Subsim:688(i) and Sub Command from EA.

[Sonarman]

Not so sure that there would be a big enough mass market audience for that, Dangerous Waters pretty much flopped. I think it is very difficult trying to please everyone and get a large enough audience for a good return i.e. satisfy the true subsimmers level of complexity (eg Dangerous Waters) vs something a bit more gamey that "normal people" would play/buy (eg Red Storm Rising).

Personally, I think it's time to hit the surface for Destroyer Command 2.

[The General]

Well, EA's Battlefield series went from the 1942 arena to modern day warfare very successfully.

Think of all the cool stuff we would be able to do; hunting for enemy subs under the ice-pack, or breaking through said ice to launch a missile strike! Fantastic stuff! Go watch The Hunt for Red October, Crimson Tide, Ice Station Zebra and K-19: The Widowmaker and then tell me it isn't the best idea since bread came sliced!

[The General]

Anybody's who's played Red Storm Rising on the C64 knows the potential of such a sim. Trust me, it's gonna be awesome!

[dean_acheson]

Originally Posted by The General

Well, EA's Battlefield series went from the 1942 arena to modern day warfare very successfully.

Think of all the cool stuff we would be able to do; hunting for enemy subs under the ice-pack, or breaking through said ice to launch a missile strike!

Point One: That kinda a different genre I think.

Point Two: Missle Launched Sir! Moscow is now gone! Is the game then over, or do you get to blow up an Kilo before sneaking back into the smoking ruins of Norfolk?

The latter just doesn't really appeal to me.

[the_belgian]

Originally Posted by Sonarman

Personally, I think it's time to hit the surface for Destroyer Command 2.

[jdkbph]

No vote, because the what I think is the right answer wasn't on the list

If there's a SH5... and IF the devs get the proper committment from UBI to finish what they start... then I'd be all over a sub sim set in WWI.


JD

[Mickle]

Originally Posted by jdkbph

No vote, because the what I think is the right answer wasn't on the list

If there's a SH5... and IF the devs get the proper committment from UBI to finish what they start... then I'd be all over a sub sim set in WWI.


JD

FTW

[mookiemookie]

I'd like them to get WW2 right before moving on to a snoozefest like the Cold War

[Fat Bhoy Tim]

I like the idea, mainly because the early Cold War period has not been tackled. Alright there's a lack of historical event to go on, but how many times have games written an alternate history despite the initially historical setting?

However I have a feeling it would turn out worse then SH4, simply because there would be a lot to implement. And we all know it would be half finished as always.

[raifg]

Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim

However I have a feeling it would turn out worse then SH4, simply because there would be a lot to implement. And we all know it would be half finished as always.

I think it would be a great idea: nuclear-powered submarines could be the heroes of the fifth episode. We would be able to sail in immersion during a long time. So that the main ennemy would be submarines, which haven't been yet modelized.
That is why I share the point of view of Fat Bhoy Tim: yes, but the game have to be strongly improved before...

[Hybris]

Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim

I like the idea, mainly because the early Cold War period has not been tackled. Alright there's a lack of historical event to go on, but how many times have games written an alternate history despite the initially historical setting?

However I have a feeling it would turn out worse then SH4, simply because there would be a lot to implement. And we all know it would be half finished as always.

I agree with F.B.T that a alternate history would be cool (Commanding a Typhoon or Alfa would be sweet) but how about doing this in the future (2100-2200 A.D?).

One idea I have been thinking about writeing into a fan fiction is sometime in the future the French (Now called the United Islamic State) have surprised the world and have conquered a most of it in a matter of 2 years. Now what is left of the US, Russia, Germany, and (maybe?) Japan rebel forces must fight off this evil at sea using what ships they can find or build including WWII U-boats all they way to the Seawolf class subs. It's a bit more out there then most (if not all) your guys ideas but I think it would be intresting if done right.

[Iron Budokan]

Imagine the heart-stopping excitement of a Cold War simlulation as you follow a Russian sub around, being a hole in the water and following it around as it performs its own secret mission of parking itself off the coast of the United States monitoring electronic traffic and then you get to follow the Russian sub back to its home base being a hole in the water and what pulse-pounding heart-stopping action that would be as you follow the Russian sub being a hole in the water I'm about to nut just thinking about it better take my blood pressure medicine I don't know if I can take the nervous tension of following a Russian sub around while I'm a hole in the water I mean it just doesn't get any more blood-pounding nerve-wracking that that, now does it?

Or does it.

Well, yes, because you can be a sub on the super secret mission of Ivy Bells! Yes, you too can be a hole in the water as you sneak towards the cable underwater and replace the monitoring equipment and then sneak way. I mean, my God, what pulse-pounding heart-thrilling nerve-tightening excitement that would be! I'm getting light headed just thinking about it. I'm so psyched I want to punch my fist through the wall!

But calm down, bunky, because it gets better! I know, hard to believe, but you haven't even touched the icing on this cake 'cuz you also (get ready for it) get to follow a Russian trawler around while you're a hole in the water and monitor its electronic signals as it monitors electronic signals of American ships on maneuvers. And what happens when you plot and calculate your TMA and run a practice attack maneuver, well, then you just stand down because you're not going to be allowed to put a fish into that trawler's guts as much as you might like to. Ecitement! History! Jaw-dropping eye-popping heart-pounding excitement as you follow the Russian trawler around and then slip away being a hole in the water and you go back home, a mission well done and a slap on the back from Admiral Rickover.

Now I know what you're thinking. That in itself would be more than enough for a gut-wrenching mind-blowing experience but you would be wrong! Because now you get to take your sub and park it under the North Pole and stay there, being a hole in the water, coming up to a polyna occasionally and raising your mast so you can radio your situation and you receive heart-hammering orders to stay at your postion being a hole in the water.

I'm getting the vapors just thinking about it.