Going to have to quit..

clayp · 11-10-07, 10:27 PM

Gentelmen I'm going to have to quit playinf SH4..I just cant get it to work right..Iam compleatly baffled and frustrated and am tired of messing around with it for months now. Good luck to you all....

Peto · 11-10-07, 10:35 PM

Well clayp--don't throw it away! I'm sorry to hear you're hanging it up but I can understand how patience runs out sometimes. Maybe in the future when you get a new system it will work out for you!

It'll be new to you then and still will be worth the wait!

See you at sea after you get new Construction!

Salute!!!

Peto

leovampire · 11-10-07, 10:50 PM

I got you through a few problems and hurdles maybe I can still help out.

What's going on?!

Dave

SteamWake · 11-10-07, 11:01 PM

It is very bizzare and perplexing how some folks have no problems at all while others pull their hair out.

Very sorry ClayP your a good member of the community and sorry for your frustration.

Before you go have you tried disabling your virus protection, firewall, and installing in a unique directory ?

Of course you have.

Shame really its a hellua game....

DeepIron · 11-10-07, 11:04 PM

Still running your system OC'd...? :hmm:

clayp · 11-10-07, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leovampire

I got you through a few problems and hurdles maybe I can still help out.

What's going on?!

Dave

Same thing Leo,Plays fine for awhile then starts getting jaggies and then the screen goes green and I can hear the game running in the bacround...

Core 2 Duo X6800 @3.24
Asus Motherboard P5BDELUXEWIFI
OCZ 2Gig 15-5-5-5 memory kit DDR2 OCZ2N1066SR2GK 2 x 2 gig kits
(4 gigs total)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra BFGE88768UE
Western Digital 160gig sata II 16mb
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer SB0730VP
Cooler master CM Stacker 830 Silver
OCZ Gamer extreme PS 1010wat OCZ1010GXSSLI
Samsung Optical (DVD/CDRW)
Windows XP Pro 32bit SP2

DeepIron · 11-10-07, 11:53 PM

Can you monitor any of your CPU or GPU temps? Usually video degradation like your describing is an overheating issue...

What video resolution are you playing SH4 at?

pythos · 11-10-07, 11:57 PM

Sounds like it is graphics related. I have had the same problem, until I got ROW. I used to have to save every time I went from inside the boat, to outside, cause 9 times out of 10, my screen would freeze, accompanied by a lot of hard drive access, then go black, and a message telling me a problem occured and the program needed to be shut down, which ultimately led to my having to hard boot the computer. After I installed ROW's textures this problem has all but vanished. There is something up with a texture file or many of the original game.

You may be encountering the same thing, and I think it is Nvidia related. Remeber how SH3 jamed invidia machines due to the particle effect not being handled well by these cards and drivers. The same may be with our cards and whatever texture file is causing our misery.

Try ROW's graphics, and tone down the detail for a bit, then bring them up to where things start dropping in frame rates. Also, the Fog, and environmental effects are absolute murder to my framerates, and overall game performance. Turn them off, and see how it goes.

Good luck. If I can stick it out, you should be able to .

leovampire · 11-10-07, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clayp

Quote:

Originally Posted by leovampire

I got you through a few problems and hurdles maybe I can still help out.

What's going on?!

Dave

Same thing Leo,Plays fine for awhile then starts getting jaggies and then the screen goes green and I can hear the game running in the bacround...

Core 2 Duo X6800 @3.24
Asus Motherboard P5BDELUXEWIFI
OCZ 2Gig 15-5-5-5 memory kit DDR2 OCZ2N1066SR2GK 2 x 2 gig kits
(4 gigs total)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra BFGE88768UE
Western Digital 160gig sata II 16mb
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer SB0730VP
Cooler master CM Stacker 830 Silver
OCZ Gamer extreme PS 1010wat OCZ1010GXSSLI
Samsung Optical (DVD/CDRW)
Windows XP Pro 32bit SP2

Everyone thought it was the viedo card or driver's for it something like that.

But let me ask you this. When you FIRST installed SHIV did you then do a reboot?

Now I personaly had problems with my game when I added the FULL 1.3 patch that had all the others rolled into it.

So what I did was uninstall the game again. Rebooted then installed it and rebooted.

I downloaded each of the patches individualy.

Aplied patch #1 then rebooted.

Aplied patch #2 then rebooted.

Aplied patch #3 then rebooted.

Then aplied all the mod's I wanted and fired up the game and have never had a single problem since then. The game has run like a charm ever since I did this. And I did this after patch 1.3 came out and never ever had a single problem with the game since then.

Just make sure before you uninstall the game you save your mod folder or you will lose all of them and have to start from scratch in locating and downloading them again.

NefariousKoel · 11-11-07, 12:02 AM

I had the same kind of stuff happening when I didn't install DirectX9 off the DVD and got tearing and some stuttering until I turned on Vsync.

Of course, with an 8800, you're using DX10. Are you using the latest DirectX10?

maerean_m · 11-11-07, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

I had the same kind of stuff happening when I didn't install DirectX9 off the DVD and got tearing and some stuttering until I turned on Vsync.

Of course, with an 8800, you're using DX10.

He is not using DirectX 10. SH4 uses DirectX 9 and Vista users should let the Setup install DirectX 9, side by side with the existing DirectX 10 in the operating system.

THE_MASK · 11-11-07, 12:38 AM

[quote=maerean_m]

Quote:

Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

I had the same kind of stuff happening when I didn't install DirectX9 off the DVD and got tearing and some stuttering until I turned on Vsync.

Of course, with an 8800, you're using DX10.

He is not using DirectX 10. SH4 uses DirectX 9 and Vista users should let the Setup install DirectX 9, side by side with the existing DirectX 10 in the operating system.[/quote] Is this for all users .

11-11-07, 01:38 AM

Another guy with a good system having problems. Hopefully you can get it to work ok. I almost quit too but I was persistant to figure out why my game kept crashing.

Is your Ultra card overclocked? I never buy overclocked just to make sure that a game doesn't become unstable should it put too much on the card. A card that isn't overclocked reacts better to high loads than a card that is.

AVGWarhawk · 11-11-07, 07:17 AM

Clay, sounds like a video card issue to me. Did you get any type of warranty with your new system/card? If you can return it(vid card) for an exchange, give that a go.

capt_frank · 11-11-07, 09:20 AM

Another important question is do you play any other games and if so, do you have the same sort of problems with them?

If so, I'd say video card. If not, you've got a conflict somewhere in SHIV.

I've got crackles bad enough to make me spit, BUT ONLY in SHIV. I'm going to give Leo's advice (above) a go and see what happens.

Good Luck!

11-10-07, 11:04 PM	#5
DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Still running your system OC'd...? :hmm: __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396

11-10-07, 11:53 PM	#7
DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Can you monitor any of your CPU or GPU temps? Usually video degradation like your describing is an overheating issue... What video resolution are you playing SH4 at? __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396

11-11-07, 12:02 AM	#10
NefariousKoel Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: No-good Missouri scum Posts: 1,223 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I had the same kind of stuff happening when I didn't install DirectX9 off the DVD and got tearing and some stuttering until I turned on Vsync. Of course, with an 8800, you're using DX10. Are you using the latest DirectX10? __________________ "When Gary told me he had found Jesus, I thought, Yahoo! We're rich! But it turned out to be something different." - Jack Handey

11-11-07, 07:17 AM	#14
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Clay, sounds like a video card issue to me. Did you get any type of warranty with your new system/card? If you can return it(vid card) for an exchange, give that a go. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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11-10-07, 10:27 PM	#1
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	Going to have to quit.. Gentelmen I'm going to have to quit playinf SH4..I just cant get it to work right..Iam compleatly baffled and frustrated and am tired of messing around with it for months now. Good luck to you all.... __________________ clayp

11-10-07, 10:35 PM	#2
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Well clayp--don't throw it away! I'm sorry to hear you're hanging it up but I can understand how patience runs out sometimes. Maybe in the future when you get a new system it will work out for you! It'll be new to you then and still will be worth the wait! See you at sea after you get new Construction! Salute!!! Peto

11-10-07, 10:50 PM	#3
leovampire Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Waterbury, CT. USA Posts: 2,336 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	what's going on now buddy that you need help with? I got you through a few problems and hurdles maybe I can still help out. What's going on?! Dave __________________ AIR_BASE_NAV_MAP_MOD Reflections_on_the_Water

11-10-07, 11:01 PM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	It is very bizzare and perplexing how some folks have no problems at all while others pull their hair out. Very sorry ClayP your a good member of the community and sorry for your frustration. Before you go have you tried disabling your virus protection, firewall, and installing in a unique directory ? Of course you have. Shame really its a hellua game....

11-10-07, 11:57 PM	#8
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Sounds like it is graphics related. I have had the same problem, until I got ROW. I used to have to save every time I went from inside the boat, to outside, cause 9 times out of 10, my screen would freeze, accompanied by a lot of hard drive access, then go black, and a message telling me a problem occured and the program needed to be shut down, which ultimately led to my having to hard boot the computer. After I installed ROW's textures this problem has all but vanished. There is something up with a texture file or many of the original game. You may be encountering the same thing, and I think it is Nvidia related. Remeber how SH3 jamed invidia machines due to the particle effect not being handled well by these cards and drivers. The same may be with our cards and whatever texture file is causing our misery. Try ROW's graphics, and tone down the detail for a bit, then bring them up to where things start dropping in frame rates. Also, the Fog, and environmental effects are absolute murder to my framerates, and overall game performance. Turn them off, and see how it goes. Good luck. If I can stick it out, you should be able to .

11-11-07, 01:38 AM	#13
SubSuck Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Another guy with a good system having problems. Hopefully you can get it to work ok. I almost quit too but I was persistant to figure out why my game kept crashing. Is your Ultra card overclocked? I never buy overclocked just to make sure that a game doesn't become unstable should it put too much on the card. A card that isn't overclocked reacts better to high loads than a card that is.

11-11-07, 09:20 AM	#15
capt_frank Watch Officer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In the North Carolina Sticks Posts: 335 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Another important question is do you play any other games and if so, do you have the same sort of problems with them? If so, I'd say video card. If not, you've got a conflict somewhere in SHIV. I've got crackles bad enough to make me spit, BUT ONLY in SHIV. I'm going to give Leo's advice (above) a go and see what happens. Good Luck!