about Black Swan

Capt. Shark Bait · 11-14-07, 06:46 PM

just how difficult are they. i managed to evade 2 fairly easily and destroyed both. one i hid submerged right next to a slowly sinking ship and all the BS did was circle me, until the ship started to explode . then it was time to get outta there. that's when i sank #2

Packerton · 11-14-07, 06:57 PM

Assumeing your useing GWX.

Once a black swan gets its best Sensors late war and assumeing the crew is at least Experienced.

Your in for a hell of a ride.

Espeically if you run into that one guys (he was a real person) Elite hunter kill group that randomly patrols the seas thats modeled into the GWX.

KeptinCranky · 11-14-07, 07:02 PM

Depends...how good are You??

Sometimes they're easily confused, those are the good times

Sometimes they find you, and don't give up until you're dead

And then there's the times when, after chucking 5 hedgehogs at you without killing you, they get really mean, call in all their other Destroyer Escort buddies and start plastering you with more depth-charges than you'd care to count until you're dead, sunk, hung, drawn, quartered, chopped, grilled and mincified, and if you still won't give in they'll act like they've left in frustration, then when you finally dare to raise your periscope again some Sunderland drops a stick of bombs on it just to make sure.
And then they laugh at you from a long way off

but on other days it just rains...

Oh, and stay away from Buckleys too, they're unpleasant

Capt. Shark Bait · 11-15-07, 06:37 AM

yup, GWX

. well, it still being the 'happy time" for me, i guess i'll sink as many as i can and really p!$$'em off

, and pray for rain

NiclDoe · 11-15-07, 06:40 AM

When its after haooy times the RN gets more serious.

TarJak · 11-15-07, 07:17 AM

But they can be killed even in late war...

Black Swan in Madras harbour 1944:

Kipparikalle · 11-15-07, 10:04 AM

Well, I have one career wich has reached year 1944.
Still, Black Swans aren't that hard. Atleast I think so, it just depents how you deal with them.

I really don't understand how so many thinks that Black Swans are so hard?
Of course there are some who aren't as skilled as someone else, but seen some even very skilled and talented Kaleuns saying that Black Swans are hard.

I have met Black Swans, fought them, and winned them. Many, many times (maybe way too many, I think my luck is going to run out soon)

Can someone explain this please?

U49 · 11-15-07, 11:24 AM

They are just a an obstacle... when they are not more than 2 ....

If I sense more than 2, I think about "getting even", but this costs torpedos and is something I prefer to avoid....

As long as there is ammunition, there still is hope....

Capt. Shark Bait · 11-15-07, 09:16 PM

so, it's like they're not the boogeyman after all

Packerton · 11-15-07, 09:20 PM

The thing is, when you got more then 1 black swan, the GWX AI is in full swing and one will listen actively while the other scans passivly.

You got to BE REALLY luck and skilled to survive that kind of escort evasion.

bookworm_020 · 11-15-07, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packerton

The thing is, when you got more then 1 black swan, the GWX AI is in full swing and one will listen actively while the other scans passivly.

You got to BE REALLY luck and skilled to survive that kind of escort evasion.

And pray as hard as you can that they don't call in any further reneforcements! Then your goose is well and truly cooked!

Peto · 11-15-07, 11:16 PM

Black Swan: late war--Type 147 sonar, centimeter radar, hedgehog and 8 K-Guns make for a nasty combo! Jonnie Walker used a Black Swan as his Flagship.

We hates them we does

.

11-15-07, 11:16 PM

The Swan Class is very easy, just hit the middle or stern with one torpedo and she goes down..And of course..the bow is a good spot too. I'm glad they put em on convoys..not hard and plus they blow themselves up by DC's eventually!

Capt. Shark Bait · 11-16-07, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packerton

The thing is, when you got more then 1 black swan, the GWX AI is in full swing and one will listen actively while the other scans passivly.

You got to BE REALLY luck and skilled to survive that kind of escort evasion.

caught them doing that. the s o would lose contact on one but the other would be pinging away. theuy should be more careful when near stationary

Canovaro · 11-17-07, 06:40 AM

There is only one occasion that i really could not escape a dd. When it lost me, as soon as it started pinging, it found me. That was 1941 and the dd was a River class.
I had to come to p/d and attack it, which is something I normally never do.

11-14-07, 06:46 PM	#1
Capt. Shark Bait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in a convergance zone Posts: 1,186 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	about Black Swan just how difficult are they. i managed to evade 2 fairly easily and destroyed both. one i hid submerged right next to a slowly sinking ship and all the BS did was circle me, until the ship started to explode . then it was time to get outta there. that's when i sank #2 __________________ Leiser und tödlicher edler Ritter der Tiefe Corsair Vengeance M70; ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z; FX 8350; Asus 7870; Samsung SyncMaster 2243SWX; coolmax CUG950B 950w psu; 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3; Corsair M4 SSD 128GB, WD 1TB; x18 DVR212D; 7SP1

11-15-07, 06:37 AM	#4
Capt. Shark Bait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in a convergance zone Posts: 1,186 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	yup, GWX . well, it still being the 'happy time" for me, i guess i'll sink as many as i can and really p!$$'em off , and pray for rain __________________ Leiser und tödlicher edler Ritter der Tiefe Corsair Vengeance M70; ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z; FX 8350; Asus 7870; Samsung SyncMaster 2243SWX; coolmax CUG950B 950w psu; 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3; Corsair M4 SSD 128GB, WD 1TB; x18 DVR212D; 7SP1

11-15-07, 06:40 AM	#5
NiclDoe Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In the Air or hiding from Black Swans Posts: 760 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	When its after haooy times the RN gets more serious. __________________ The Crazy Wolf

11-15-07, 11:24 AM	#8
U49 Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: D/Niedersachsen Posts: 777 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	They are just a an obstacle... when they are not more than 2 .... If I sense more than 2, I think about "getting even", but this costs torpedos and is something I prefer to avoid.... As long as there is ammunition, there still is hope.... __________________ SH3 battle capability upgrades: GWX2.0, JSGME2.0, SH3Commander 2.7, SH3Gen 0.8.2, TorpDamageMod 2.0, OLC GUI 1.1.5 Awaiting combat readiness for GWX2.0: SH4 effetcs for SH3, SH3Weather 1.5 Following development of: www.subwolves.com Realism: 90%

11-15-07, 09:16 PM	#9
Capt. Shark Bait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in a convergance zone Posts: 1,186 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	so, it's like they're not the boogeyman after all __________________ Leiser und tödlicher edler Ritter der Tiefe Corsair Vengeance M70; ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z; FX 8350; Asus 7870; Samsung SyncMaster 2243SWX; coolmax CUG950B 950w psu; 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3; Corsair M4 SSD 128GB, WD 1TB; x18 DVR212D; 7SP1

11-14-07, 06:57 PM	#2
Packerton Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newfoundland,Canada Posts: 398 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Assumeing your useing GWX. Once a black swan gets its best Sensors late war and assumeing the crew is at least Experienced. Your in for a hell of a ride. Espeically if you run into that one guys (he was a real person) Elite hunter kill group that randomly patrols the seas thats modeled into the GWX. __________________ GWX crew member. Come Hell or High water, we get it done!

11-14-07, 07:02 PM	#3
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Depends...how good are You?? Sometimes they're easily confused, those are the good times Sometimes they find you, and don't give up until you're dead And then there's the times when, after chucking 5 hedgehogs at you without killing you, they get really mean, call in all their other Destroyer Escort buddies and start plastering you with more depth-charges than you'd care to count until you're dead, sunk, hung, drawn, quartered, chopped, grilled and mincified, and if you still won't give in they'll act like they've left in frustration, then when you finally dare to raise your periscope again some Sunderland drops a stick of bombs on it just to make sure. And then they laugh at you from a long way off but on other days it just rains... Oh, and stay away from Buckleys too, they're unpleasant

11-15-07, 07:17 AM	#6
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	But they can be killed even in late war... Black Swan in Madras harbour 1944:

11-15-07, 10:04 AM	#7
Kipparikalle Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 580 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Well, I have one career wich has reached year 1944. Still, Black Swans aren't that hard. Atleast I think so, it just depents how you deal with them. I really don't understand how so many thinks that Black Swans are so hard? Of course there are some who aren't as skilled as someone else, but seen some even very skilled and talented Kaleuns saying that Black Swans are hard. I have met Black Swans, fought them, and winned them. Many, many times (maybe way too many, I think my luck is going to run out soon) Can someone explain this please?

11-15-07, 09:20 PM	#10
Packerton Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newfoundland,Canada Posts: 398 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	The thing is, when you got more then 1 black swan, the GWX AI is in full swing and one will listen actively while the other scans passivly. You got to BE REALLY luck and skilled to survive that kind of escort evasion. __________________ GWX crew member. Come Hell or High water, we get it done!

11-15-07, 11:16 PM	#12
Peto Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The details of my life are quite inconsequential Posts: 1,049 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Black Swan: late war--Type 147 sonar, centimeter radar, hedgehog and 8 K-Guns make for a nasty combo! Jonnie Walker used a Black Swan as his Flagship. We hates them we does .

11-15-07, 11:16 PM	#13
AdlerGrosmann Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The Swan Class is very easy, just hit the middle or stern with one torpedo and she goes down..And of course..the bow is a good spot too. I'm glad they put em on convoys..not hard and plus they blow themselves up by DC's eventually!

11-17-07, 06:40 AM	#15
Canovaro Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,062 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	There is only one occasion that i really could not escape a dd. When it lost me, as soon as it started pinging, it found me. That was 1941 and the dd was a River class. I had to come to p/d and attack it, which is something I normally never do.

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