Here come the Democratic Taxes

Rich went from one million dollars/year to $150,000/year.
This is the kind of thing we can expect to be ratified by a Democrat in the White House.

Remove the incentive to succeed. Keep everyone in survival mode, knowing no matter how hard you work you can never get ahead.

http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...spx?NewsID=133

[Sea Demon]

Don't forget the all-time favorite pasttime of the Democrat party. Create more government dependency, and tax those not dependent on government to pay for it.

[nikimcbee]

WG,
I can't believe you don't support the policies of the future leader...


Here, watch this video and you will embrace it all.


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Remember, it takes a comrade to build the collective.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by waste gate

no matter how hard you work you can never get ahead.

That's the same in any system.
If every person in the world worked as hard as he/she could you would not end up with
everyone being a millionaire. You would still need the same amount of people scraping
s*** of the floor of the public conveniences.

The way to get more money is not to work hard; this is evident when you compare the
work loads of the rich and poor. The way to get rich is to control the means of
production whilst exploiting the workforce and both exploiting and manipulating the
consumers.

Those who actually work hard tend to be in the lower social and economic groups and
have a tendency to die young of industrial related illness.

It is quite clearly exploitation and manipulation of others that gets money, not hard
work.
In Europe, the rise of unions and strict control of enterprise via regulation, tax and
fines as well as compulsory competition has attempted to both restrict the explotive and manipulative
power of corporations and counter it by allowing the customer and employee to
manipulate the cooperation to some extent.
Both business and personal, tax plays a vital role in this; both the extraction and
allocation of those tax funds.

[AVGWarhawk]

Yeah, I read this earlier today. What a crock. Plan on opening the checkbook boys. It will only hurt a bit

[Sea Demon]

Yes. It is horrible. And if you look into it, and read what Rangel (D) is saying, he plans for new entitlements and extensions of the hideous Earned Income Tax Credit....and other tax-payer ripoffs like that. His goal is to create more government dependancy, using money from people not dependant on the government. Well, one thing you can expect is higher taxes from capital gains. So forget short term or medium term investments with any Democrat in control. Killing incentive, and shrinking economic growth is only a start to what these Democrats will bring. It amazes me how people on the left have lost all love of personal freedom and the personal responsibility that goes with it.

Hillary Quote

What will a Hillary Presidency be like?

“We just can’t trust the American people to make those types of choices…Government has to make those choices for people” ~Hillary Clinton

If that doesn’t give you a good idea, this quote may help…

“Many of you are well enough off that … the tax cuts may have helped you … We’re saying that for America to get back on track, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. ~Explaining her opposition to President Bush’s tax cut in San Francisco (28 June 2004)

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Hillary Quote

What will a Hillary Presidency be like?

“We just can’t trust the American people to make those types of choices…Government has to make those choices for people” ~Hillary Clinton

If that doesn’t give you a good idea, this quote may help…

“Many of you are well enough off that … the tax cuts may have helped you … We’re saying that for America to get back on track, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. ~Explaining her opposition to President Bush’s tax cut in San Francisco (28 June 2004)

That's exactly the mentality of the Democrat Party. In their minds, your money doesn't belong to you. It's the government's money. And you are their property. In their minds, they want to be able to tell you how much money they will let you keep. This is why I say people on the left have no love of personal freedom. Because they support this type of governmental control over personal property.

[Sailor Steve]

Thanks for that, Waste Gate. There's nothing like a direct quote to show what a person really means.

I've often said that before anyone can be in a position to touch taxes, they must first be of the simple opinion: "All taxes are evil. A necessary evil, of course, but evil nonetheless."

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I've often said that before anyone can be in a position to touch taxes, they must first be of the simple opinion: "All taxes are evil. A necessary evil, of course, but evil nonetheless."

Why?

Tax is the only way to achieve social justice.

Originally Posted by Letum

Why?

Tax is the only way to achieve social justice.

What is social justice? Those that suceed pay for those that don't?

From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need?

[DeepIron]

What is social justice? Those that suceed pay for those that don't?

Sounds more like a "social equality" or even more like "Social Evolution" ... I can see it now, survival of two classes: the richest, and the most adaptable at scrounging. A completely polarized society where there is no mistake where one stands socially or fiscally... The very top and absolute bottom tiers of the social ladder, the owners and the owned, the haves and the never-will-haves...

[DeepSix]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

That's exactly the mentality of the Democrat Party. In their minds, your money doesn't belong to you. It's the government's money. And you are their property. In their minds, they want to be able to tell you how much money they will let you keep. This is why I say people on the left have no love of personal freedom. Because they support this type of governmental control over personal property.

Yup. The idea that government knows what is best for me or anyone else is anathema to the principles that this country is founded on, and yet this country is apparently full of Nerf-brained people who are willing to accept it. What amazes me is that people apparently can't see the Left's Big Brother policies for what they are. The substance of liberty is gradually and quietly being confused with an addiction to luxury. Cushier lifestyles will not make our country any freer, any wealthier, or any stronger. Yet we seem willing to go along anyway.

My favorite Hillary quote is (as put by Giuliani in the Republican debate): "I have a million ideas and America can't afford them all."

[DeepIron]

“We just can’t trust the American people to make those types of choices…Government has to make those choices for people”

I would think that is true now more than ever. Mr and Mrs Average Knucklehead are more interested in who got flushed off "Dancing with the Stars" than hearing candidates in a political debate. The media will take their slant and focus on whatever dirt gets them better ratings.

C'mon, Brittany Spears and Paris Hilton get more attention from the media and American public than Clinton, Obama or any other political hopeful.

Don't believe me? Stand around the water cooler sometime and just listen to what people are discussing... betcha it ain't politics bubba...

And you want the public to make "informed decisions"? :rotfl:

Originally Posted by DeepSix

Yup. The idea that government knows what is best for me or anyone else is anathema to the principles that this country is founded on, and yet this country is apparently full of Nerf-brained people who are willing to accept it. What amazes me is that people apparently can't see the Left's Big Brother policies for what they are. The substance of liberty is gradually and quietly being confused with an addiction to luxury. Cushier lifestyles will not make our country any freer, any wealthier, or any stronger. Yet we seem willing to go along anyway.

My favorite Hillary quote is (as put by Giuliani in the Republican debate): "I have a million ideas and America can't afford them all."

And Rudy had the correct response; Hillary, America (US) can't afford you.

Unfortunately Rudy has some other positions on issues which give me pause.