UK approves Human Animal Hybrid clones - genetic engineering

[SUBMAN1]

Am I the only person here that has a problem with this? This is a sicko idea. They say that they have to be destroyed after 15 days, but this will only hold until the genetic engineering industry beats you down and continues to beat you down until you conceed to let one go to term! This is the same strategy they used to get UK law makers to agree to allow them to do their experimentation in the first place, and it will be used again to allow them to go the full 9 months! This is a dangerous precident in my book:

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1564

I better steal a page out of Avon Lady's handbook for this thread since if I don't post this link, she eventually will:

http://www.bartleby.com/1001/ - The Island of Doctor Moreau

It is apparent that your forefathers would have been appaled by such abonimations as evident in HG Wells book, but for some reason, the UK is now embracing these ideas. Two words - Moral decline.

-S

[STEED]

To late the Daleks did it when they created pig men slaves, Dr Who.

Alright thats sci fi so back in the real world are we slowly crossing the line in to a nightmare world?

The answer has to be yes.

Originally Posted by STEED

To late the Daleks did it when they created pig men slaves, Dr Who.

Alright thats sci fi so back in the real world are we slowly crossing the line in to a nightmare world?

The answer has to be yes.

On the other hand: We'll finally get all those cute girls with cat ears we always see in Anime cartoons.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Zayphod

On the other hand: We'll finally get all those cute girls with cat ears we always see in Anime cartoons.

What ever floats your boat!
:hmm:

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Zayphod

On the other hand: We'll finally get all those cute girls with cat ears we always see in Anime cartoons.

Now I am worried.

[Bosk]

I think it's scary stuff. What scares me most is not the potential effects it might have on tomorrow's athletes but the implications it may have for future generations of soldiers.

[LtCmdrRat]

A human civilization deserves another asteroid impact...
Divided by religious sects, trying to destroy sapiens part of its own definition.
Humanity is deserved to be genetecally changed... We are destroying our own planet, instead of using atomic energy we use ... oil because its so profitable. We afraid of genetics experiments just because "my momma told so". We elect stupid leaders and we fighting the war with ghost that was given politically correct name islamofascists instead of ISLAM ideology.... We so politally correct people that even been raped by an alien we described him as "strange but nice creature". We read less and less books, we watch more TV with stupid shows and almost zero education programms, we are afraid of even thinking.
Why CEO guys got annually hundreds of thousands even millions but EMT paramedic or construction worker got annual salary CEO got for a week?
Yes, Everything what you read above just pointless, but my dear CEO when you got free time to play with your kids or just look at the stars?
Genetical engineering can help to cure a lot of deceases. You are afraid of possibility of creating human monsters? Just prohibit it but allow science to step forward.
Mc Donalds making monsters from humans every day and what?
Some Idiots needs to have a sign on a cup of coffee or tea shows that it is "HOT!!!"
Boring HS students shots their classmates just because" its cool" or" i am so depressed".This depression can be easily cured by belt in the childhood.
We are afraid of possibility to meet a better human being and we are jealous. Why I am said "better human " because it is impossible to be worser.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by LtCmdrRat

A human civilization deserves another asteroid impact...
Divided by religious sects, trying to destroy sapiens part of its own definition.
Humanity is deserved to be genetecally changed... We are destroying our own planet, instead of using atomic energy we use ... oil because its so profitable. We afraid of genetics experiments just because "my momma told so". We elect stupid leaders and we fighting the war with ghost that was given politically correct name islamofascists instead of ISLAM ideology.... We so politally correct people that even been raped by an alien we described him as "strange but nice creature". We read less and less books, we watch more TV with stupid shows and almost zero education programms, we are afraid of even thinking.
Why CEO guys got annually hundreds of thousands even millions but EMT paramedic or construction worker got annual salary CEO got for a week?
Yes, Everything what you read above just pointless, but my dear CEO when you got free time to play with your kids or just look at the stars?
Genetical engineering can help to cure a lot of deceases. You are afraid of possibility of creating human monsters? Just prohibit it but allow science to step forward.
Mc Donalds making monsters from humans every day and what?
Some Idiots needs to have a sign on a cup of coffee or tea shows that it is "HOT!!!"
Boring HS students shots their classmates just because" its cool" or" i am so depressed".This depression can be easily cured by belt in the childhood.
We are afraid of possibility to meet a better human being and we are jealous. Why I am said "better human " because it is impossible to be worser.

heh...right wing rant of the day.

[Letum]

I don't see why this is a bad thing.
If it saves one life it will certinaly be a good thing, but I don't see that it eeven needs to achive that to be justifyed.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Letum

I don't see why this is a bad thing.

But we all expected that answer from you, so are we supposed to be surprised?

-S

[fatty]

Originally Posted by Letum

I don't see why this is a bad thing.
If it saves one life it will certinaly be a good thing, but I don't see that it eeven needs to achive that to be justifyed.

Yeah, seriously. It's not like scientists are out to create living human-animal hybrids - I can't see any practical applications coming out of that and I certainly don't think the ethics that govern science allow for that variety of experiment. This is a way instead to circumvent the religious arguments against using human embryonic stem cells by taking an animal embryonic stem cell, replacing its nucleus with that of a living human's. Presto: human, undifferentiated, embryonic stem cell, eventually to become Schwann cells, muscle tissue, a heart chamber, or whatever.

[Letum]

Some you you say it is immoral, but why do you think it is immoral? Who is it hurting?

I can't see any practical applications coming out of that.

Well, someone funding this certinaly can!

I can't see the practical application of the new partical accelerator in Europe, but I am assured there are many.

Im not saying one should trust everyones motives blindly, but one should not assume they are not good with out reason.

[fatty]

Originally Posted by Letum

Some you you say it is immoral, but why do you think it is immoral? Who is it hurting?

Well, someone funding this certinaly can!

I can't see the practical application of the new partical accelerator in Europe, but I am assured there are many.

Im not saying one should trust everyones motives blindly, but one should not assume they are not good with out reason.

I just want to clarify that when I say "out of that" I meant out of creating the walking, breathing, human-cow hybrids that we all have nightmares about - if it's even possible. Unless I was Mengele, I couldn't see a purpose in doing that, but I understand your point.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Letum

Some you you say it is immoral, but why do you think it is immoral? Who is it hurting?

Let's see, the retarded kid down the street, we can take his body parts and kill him since he doesn't know hats going on now can we? Same thing going on here. Its crossed a line when human embryos that are 99% human, but are not looked at as fully human because they added a mouse tail to it making it 1% mouse.

Well, someone funding this certinaly can!

I can't see the practical application of the new partical accelerator in Europe, but I am assured there are many.

Im not saying one should trust everyones motives blindly, but one should not assume they are not good with out reason.

When you crossed the moral line, then you should look at it from a half empty perspective - You should assume not good until proven otherwise. This is the problem with scientists - they cannot be trsuted to uphold moral boundaries in the face of their relentless research.

-S

[Letum]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Let's see, the retarded kid down the street, we can take his body parts and kill him since he doesn't know hats going on now can we? Same thing going on here. Its crossed a line when human embryos that are 99% human, but are not looked at as fully human because they added a mouse tail to it making it 1% mouse.

Well, yes, you can do what you like to the "reatrdedreatrded kid" as long as it is only a group of a few thousand cells weather he is 100% mouse or 0% mouse.

Where you around a few hundred years ago I wonder if you would be amongst those protesting against human autopsy.