Patch 1.3 = No Disk

FAdmiral · 07-15-07, 07:03 PM

Is it just me or has the 1.3 patch eliminated the need to have
the disk in the drive to play. I used to get the disk check upon
starting but now it just loads directly without checking for the disk.

JIM

MobyGrape · 07-15-07, 07:08 PM

If it's just you, add me to that list

Fearless · 07-15-07, 07:11 PM

Yep, no disk needed anymore.

AVGWarhawk · 07-15-07, 07:12 PM

Nope it is everyone. If you watch the patch load in the very last file is the no cd exe file.

Nice added little bonus

FAdmiral · 07-15-07, 07:14 PM

Nice added BIG bonus if you ask me...............

JIM

AVGWarhawk · 07-15-07, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAdmiral

Nice added BIG bonus if you ask me...............

JIM

And here we thought the developers packed up camp and split. No one listening to us. We should be ashamed

Yeah it is a great big bonus

Camaero · 07-15-07, 07:51 PM

Those guys really rock for that!!!

CaptainHaplo · 07-15-07, 07:56 PM

Indeed they do - makes me happy being able to put my DVD up and not have to worry about getting into (more) trouble for discussing no cd cracks... Plus will cut down on the number of folks asking about why something is goofy when they used one. A thanks to the devs (and to ubi who had to ok it..)!

Von Tonner · 07-16-07, 12:09 AM

Yes, I agree. It is great not having to have the disk loaded everytime you want to play BUT. Does this not open a huge barn door to piracy? And if it does, that surely will impact on revenue for UBI. UBI must know this and also know that loyalty from legit customers has been severley undermined given the original copy to the point where some might rationalise "you screwed me, so now my buddy gets my disk and patch".

So, my worry is, maybe they have decided that that is it with subsim and it is time to move on and are prepared to accept the loss in future sales.:hmm:

kiwi_2005 · 07-16-07, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Tonner

Yes, I agree. It is great not having to have the disk loaded everytime you want to play BUT. Does this not open a huge barn door to piracy?

IMO No. This game was already cracked way before patch 1.3 so i dont see a difference - also people will still go out buying the game not knowing about whats in patch 1.3 (no-cd) until they install the patch, even then they still might not know. Some gamers new to subsim games wont even install the patches or know about them. Hence a mate of mine still plays Silent Hunter 3 version 1.0, to him the game aint broken so no need to fix it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Tonner

And if it does, that surely will impact on revenue for UBI. UBI must know this and also know that loyalty from legit customers has been severley undermined given the original copy to the point where some might rationalise "you screwed me, so now my buddy gets my disk and patch".
So, my worry is, maybe they have decided that that is it with subsim and it is time to move on and are prepared to accept the loss in future sales.:hmm:

No again. One game comes to mind that has put out a no-cd was "X2 The Threat" also another - Nexus. I dont think they will see a loss in future sales cause not everyone that plays games is into these nocds/cracks etc., so they wont know about it. eg Some will still put in the dvd after patching it to 1.3 not knowing you dont need it. Im one of them!

i didn't even know about the nocd in patch 1.3 until i read it here...

XanderF · 07-16-07, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobyGrape

If it's just you, add me to that list

Same, here.

I'd read (in another post, IIRC), that this just removes the check for the DVD. IE., the DVD is still needed to prevent the "Fade" protection scheme from breaking the game after you've played it for a while. It just doesn't check for the DVD first, anymore.

If so, this inclusion of the "no DVD check" might be accidental, in the same way the periscope animations broke in this patch.

Tobus · 07-16-07, 01:09 AM

It't the ever continuing debate: does no-cd patching improve pirating? I don't think so, because you simply can't prove people who dl'ed a game would have bought it also if they hadn't had the opportunity to dl in the first place.

A big thumbs up from me to UBI for this feature!

XanderF · 07-16-07, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobus

It't the ever continuing debate: does no-cd patching improve pirating? I don't think so, because you simply can't prove people who dl'ed a game would have bought it also if they hadn't had the opportunity to dl in the first place.

A big thumbs up from me to UBI for this feature!

Well, the case of 'Starsiege: Tribes' is pretty damning. Multiplayer-only game with no CD check - at it's peak, it had over 1 million people playing on the public servers. Which is pretty remarkable, when you think about it, given the game only sold about 200,000 copies, took a full CD to copy, and this was before the time of widespread broadband.

For the non-math-savvy, that's 4 copies stolen for every 1 sold.

Reaves · 07-16-07, 01:32 AM

You still need the DVD for the game to run properly.

One example is the characters in the command room "losing" their eyes.

switch.dota · 07-16-07, 02:37 AM

I've had 7-8 hrs straight of playing with no problems. DVD nowhere near my PC :P

07-15-07, 07:03 PM	#1
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Patch 1.3 = No Disk Is it just me or has the 1.3 patch eliminated the need to have the disk in the drive to play. I used to get the disk check upon starting but now it just loads directly without checking for the disk. JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

07-15-07, 07:11 PM	#3
Fearless Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,047 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 1	Yep, no disk needed anymore. __________________ Fearless System Specs: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8 Core 16 Thread CPU, 3.8GHz Base Clock, 4.7GHz Boost, 105W TDP, 32MB L3 cache \| MSI GeForce RTX3060Ti 8Gb Graphics \| Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32Gb (2x16Gb) 3200 MHz CL16 DDR4 Ram \| Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe SSD 1TB \| Seagate Barracuda 2.5in 2TB HDD \| AOC QHD 165 Hz FreeSync HDR curved 31.5in Monitor \| ASUS ROG Strix LC 240 ARGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler White Edition \| ASUS ROG Strix Gold 750W Modular Power Supply \| Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass Mid Tower Case White.

07-15-07, 07:12 PM	#4
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Nope it is everyone. If you watch the patch load in the very last file is the no cd exe file. Nice added little bonus __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

07-15-07, 07:14 PM	#5
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Nice added BIG bonus if you ask me............... JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

07-15-07, 07:51 PM	#7
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Those guys really rock for that!!! __________________

07-15-07, 07:08 PM	#2
MobyGrape Frogman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mid Pacific Posts: 292 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If it's just you, add me to that list

07-15-07, 07:56 PM	#8
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Indeed they do - makes me happy being able to put my DVD up and not have to worry about getting into (more) trouble for discussing no cd cracks... Plus will cut down on the number of folks asking about why something is goofy when they used one. A thanks to the devs (and to ubi who had to ok it..)! __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

07-16-07, 12:09 AM	#9
Von Tonner Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 711 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Yes, I agree. It is great not having to have the disk loaded everytime you want to play BUT. Does this not open a huge barn door to piracy? And if it does, that surely will impact on revenue for UBI. UBI must know this and also know that loyalty from legit customers has been severley undermined given the original copy to the point where some might rationalise "you screwed me, so now my buddy gets my disk and patch". So, my worry is, maybe they have decided that that is it with subsim and it is time to move on and are prepared to accept the loss in future sales.:hmm:

07-16-07, 01:09 AM	#12
Tobus Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 260 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	It't the ever continuing debate: does no-cd patching improve pirating? I don't think so, because you simply can't prove people who dl'ed a game would have bought it also if they hadn't had the opportunity to dl in the first place. A big thumbs up from me to UBI for this feature!

07-16-07, 01:32 AM	#14
Reaves The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,509 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	You still need the DVD for the game to run properly. One example is the characters in the command room "losing" their eyes. __________________

07-16-07, 02:37 AM	#15
switch.dota Captain Join Date: May 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 492 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've had 7-8 hrs straight of playing with no problems. DVD nowhere near my PC :P

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