Weak deck Gun, 100 shells and still floating...

Akula · 02-18-07, 05:29 AM

Hello

I just recently got back into SH3 with the Grey Wolves mod.

What a great mod it is too, but when I went through the training missions with the one where you have to sink 5 merchants with the deck gun, things didn't seem right.

I just simply couldn't sink any of them. I fired about 100 HE shells on one of them and still it just sits there floating.

Am I missing something?

Any advice much appreciated.

Thanks,
Gian

Tiny · 02-18-07, 05:31 AM

In GWX ships don't have hitpoints like in stock SH3. You have to pound the waterline and stuff. Good if you pound the same place as well. That's what I heard.

Hobnail · 02-18-07, 05:34 AM

I suspect it's said in the manual but for sake of completeness...

The new damage model for GW means that deckgun hits above the waterline have near no chance of sinking things bigger than a tug. Aim below the waterline and 15 or so shells later you've sunk her.

melnibonian · 02-18-07, 06:36 AM

If we are talking about GW1.1a then yes firing up to 100 shells seems reasonable. This is because GW1.1a uses the NYGM Dmage Model that sinks ships via flooding. To sink a ship using the deck gun try to aim below the water-line. That will creat holes and sink the ship faster.

Jimbuna · 02-18-07, 07:29 AM

Aiming below the waterline is correct

...but space your shots apart so you start flooding in as many compartments as possible

Lightning61 · 02-18-07, 11:08 AM

I'm regularly sinking the smaller merchants with approximately 10 shells now, but I'm not spreading the damage much at all.
I mainly concentrate on the bow, and once it starts plowing, I just throw a couple at it anywhere to make a BOOM!

Jimbuna · 02-18-07, 02:27 PM

That may not do a lot to the bigger fish :hmm:

Kpt. Kozloff · 02-19-07, 07:37 PM

It's even possible to sink a merchant with a single shot (yes in GWX). Aim for the fuel bunk below the waterline, just underneath the bridge and couple of inches towards bow. Not easy but achievable. It splits the ship in two and the explosion is very nice & satisfying. Some call it the "G-spot".

sunvalleyslim · 02-19-07, 11:30 PM

Kpt Kosloff,
I've found a few G-spots in my time, but never harder then the ones on the Brits....

d@rk51d3 · 02-20-07, 07:02 AM

Yep, sank a merchant with a single shot before too. I think it was in the deck gun training mission. Fired a single shot from about 3k, and laughed when it hit, then fell off my chair as it blew sky high (the ship, not my chair. although it does happen from time to time

), and rapidly sank.

02-18-07, 05:29 AM	#1
Akula Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 137 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Weak deck Gun, 100 shells and still floating... Hello I just recently got back into SH3 with the Grey Wolves mod. What a great mod it is too, but when I went through the training missions with the one where you have to sink 5 merchants with the deck gun, things didn't seem right. I just simply couldn't sink any of them. I fired about 100 HE shells on one of them and still it just sits there floating. Am I missing something? Any advice much appreciated. Thanks, Gian

02-18-07, 05:34 AM	#3
Hobnail Bosun Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 67 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I suspect it's said in the manual but for sake of completeness... The new damage model for GW means that deckgun hits above the waterline have near no chance of sinking things bigger than a tug. Aim below the waterline and 15 or so shells later you've sunk her. __________________ My TMA is like a drunk game of \"Pin the Tail on the Donkey\" Be kind.

02-18-07, 06:36 AM	#4
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	If we are talking about GW1.1a then yes firing up to 100 shells seems reasonable. This is because GW1.1a uses the NYGM Dmage Model that sinks ships via flooding. To sink a ship using the deck gun try to aim below the water-line. That will creat holes and sink the ship faster. __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

02-18-07, 07:29 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Aiming below the waterline is correct ...but space your shots apart so you start flooding in as many compartments as possible __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-18-07, 02:27 PM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	That may not do a lot to the bigger fish :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-18-07, 05:31 AM	#2
Tiny Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Submerged Posts: 105 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	In GWX ships don't have hitpoints like in stock SH3. You have to pound the waterline and stuff. Good if you pound the same place as well. That's what I heard.

02-18-07, 11:08 AM	#6
Lightning61 Loader Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 82 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'm regularly sinking the smaller merchants with approximately 10 shells now, but I'm not spreading the damage much at all. I mainly concentrate on the bow, and once it starts plowing, I just throw a couple at it anywhere to make a BOOM!

02-19-07, 07:37 PM	#8
Kpt. Kozloff Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jersey - Channel Islands, UK Posts: 305 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	It's even possible to sink a merchant with a single shot (yes in GWX). Aim for the fuel bunk below the waterline, just underneath the bridge and couple of inches towards bow. Not easy but achievable. It splits the ship in two and the explosion is very nice & satisfying. Some call it the "G-spot". __________________ GWX1.03/Cmdr2.7/plus all sorts of tweaks

02-19-07, 11:30 PM	#9
sunvalleyslim Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Kpt Kosloff, I've found a few G-spots in my time, but never harder then the ones on the Brits.... __________________ Crew member/ decommission member TM2(SS)(SD) 3/68-7/70 DIESEL BOATS FOREVER USS SEGUNDO (SS398)

02-20-07, 07:02 AM	#10
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,951 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Yep, sank a merchant with a single shot before too. I think it was in the deck gun training mission. Fired a single shot from about 3k, and laughed when it hit, then fell off my chair as it blew sky high (the ship, not my chair. although it does happen from time to time ), and rapidly sank.

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