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Old 07-14-07, 03:14 PM   #1
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I'm using 1.3 and TM 1.3 and I find the AI very much improved in this game.

I started a new career, and on my first mission I crept up on a convoy to make an attack. Two Destroyers spotted me very quickly and started racing towards my postion. I attacked the convoy, sinking two ships, and dived deep to make my escape. In 1.2, that would pretty much have been it, but in 1.3 things are different. A third Destroyer joined the other two and the game was on.

The next thirty minutes was pure cat and mouse. I remember a scene in the movie 'The Enemy Below' where Robert Mitchum's ship sits on top of the submerged sub waiting for it to move again. This happened to me. I sat there and so did a Destroyer. I moved at 1 knot and changing direction, and the Destroyer followed me. In the end, I went to periscope depth and fired two stern torps, killing 1 Destroyer. In the chaos that followed I was able to escape.....just

This is only December 1941 and it's already a challange to escape after an attack.

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Old 07-14-07, 03:36 PM   #2
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Fantastic movie! Bought it on DVD earlier this year, watched it 3 or 4 times anyway

BTW, if you like Star Trek TOS, "The Enemy Below" was the inspiration for the ST-TOS episode "Balance of Terror". You ask me, they did a pretty good job of transferring ASW to outer space, both from the viewpoint of the hunter and the hunted.

Hehee, part of me is sorry to hear Sh4's gotten so much harder! 1.0 - 1.2 made me lazy as cr*p Guess I'm gonna have to work for my supper now, huh?

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Old 07-14-07, 03:48 PM   #3
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Fantastic movie! Bought it on DVD earlier this year, watched it 3 or 4 times anyway

BTW, if you like Star Trek TOS, "The Enemy Below" was the inspiration for the ST-TOS episode "Balance of Terror". You ask me, they did a pretty good job of transferring ASW to outer space, both from the viewpoint of the hunter and the hunted.

Hehee, part of me is sorry to hear Sh4's gotten so much harder! 1.0 - 1.2 made me lazy as cr*p Guess I'm gonna have to work for my supper now, huh?

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Oh, yeah. 1.3 will keep you on yout toes!
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Yeah it's definitely trickier to dodge those DDs now, though they still seem inclined to explode when they ram you.
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Old 07-14-07, 03:55 PM   #5
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Well, I guess I'll just have to use my photon torpedoes.:rotfl:

I saw The Enemy Below in the theater way back when, and recognized the 'borrowing' of the plot for Star Trek (no "original series" back then) when I saw it on television the first time around.

Does that make me old or what?

Oh, and TDK, congratulations on surviving.
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Old 07-14-07, 04:34 PM   #6
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Hmm, maybe a little older than me I didn't see "The Enemy Below" in the theater, but I did see "Balance of Terror" on its 1st run Dec 15, 1966. Was like 7 years and 3 months old and it was about the most awesome thing I'd ever seen Still just about my all-time favorite Trek episode (that, and "The Galileo Seven")

To wander even farther OT (gonna get banned here ) speaking of TOS, I was so offended when ST-TNG was announced sometime in 1986 that I refused to watch it for the 1st 2 or 3 seasons. Seemed like blasphemy to me...

Finally I broke down and watched it, and ended up buying all 7 seasons on DVD as soon as each was released - and all 7 seasons of Voyager, and of course all 3 seasons of TOS.

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Old 07-14-07, 04:37 PM   #7
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BTW, if you like Star Trek TOS, "The Enemy Below" was the inspiration for the ST-TOS episode "Balance of Terror". You ask me, they did a pretty good job of transferring ASW to outer space, both from the viewpoint of the hunter and the hunted.
One of my favorite WWII moveies! By the way, I never knew that about that Star Trek episode...COOL
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Old 07-14-07, 05:27 PM   #8
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Well, I guess I'll just have to use my photon torpedoes.:rotfl:

I saw The Enemy Below in the theater way back when, and recognized the 'borrowing' of the plot for Star Trek (no "original series" back then) when I saw it on television the first time around.

Does that make me old or what?

Oh, and TDK, congratulations on surviving.


You and I must be around the same age, but i recognised the similiarities between the Star Trek episode "Balance of Terror" and "The Enemy Below".





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To wander even farther OT (gonna get banned here )
Naw. OT will get you yelled at, targetted by rotten tomatoes and maybe burned at the stake, but to get banned you have to do something really bad, like telling Neal you don't like Texas chili. But...

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speaking of TOS, I was so offended when ST-TNG was announced sometime in 1986 that I refused to watch it for the 1st 2 or 3 seasons. Seemed like blasphemy to me...

Finally I broke down and watched it, and ended up buying all 7 seasons on DVD as soon as each was released - and all 7 seasons of Voyager, and of course all 3 seasons of TOS.

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I was just the opposite; I looked forward to Next Generation, and then I watched it. In seven seasons, I saw maybe five episodes I would call good. I hate that show. <starts ducking the tomatoes>
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*Grabs a tomato in case that Sailor Steve says something bad about Star Trek- DS9*:p
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Dam the tomateto's, Full speed ahead!!!
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I'm using 1.3 and TM 1.3 and I find the AI very much improved in this game.!
I made a light mod(now testing) from 1.3 TM(TM 1.3: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=115258).
It has UI of TM and leaves AI and campaing features unchanged.It also adds sounds and commands (in sh3 style).
If somebody interested in this mod let me know. Then I will ask permission of Decimus to publish it.
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*Grabs a tomato in case that Sailor Steve says something bad about Star Trek- DS9*:p
Umm...my friends and I have always called it Deep S*** Nine...
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*Grabs a tomato in case that Sailor Steve says something bad about Star Trek- DS9*:p
Umm...my friends and I have always called it Deep S*** Nine...
:rotfl::rotfl:That's what I always called DS9, except I wasn't polite enough to sub in some *'s for the vital letters That one, and "Enterprise" never did anything for me at all. Rest of the series, movies, etc are objects of reverence for me.

Of the five episodes of ST-TNG you call good, I hope one of them was "The Inner Light" - you remember that one? Where Picard is struck down by the alien probe, wakes up to find himself on a strange planet with everyone thinking his name is Kamin, and lives out an entire lifetime there, marrying, having kids, grandkids. And finally, as his planet is dying, sees a space probe launched... which he will encounter a thousand years in the future, and in another life.

And meanwhile, back on the 1701-D, that entire lifetime has been compressed into 20 minutes. That was some pretty powerful sh*t, probably my favorite of the ST-TNG episodes.

Oops, I'm getting OT again. Neal, for what it's worth I think Texas chili is about the finest thing a loving god ever created! My mother was born in Wichita Falls, raised in Abilene and Fort Worth, so there's a lot of Texas running thru my blood - hope you'll keep that in mind if you consider banning me for going OT!

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