Windows Vista sales about half of what XP was

[SUBMAN1]

That is if you use real world numbers. In further testing, I pulled out an Acer 4400 laptop (Has a AMD 64 Turion ML-30 CPU, and an ATI x700 graphics card) and started using that as my promary laptop, and I still don't like it. Actaully, I'm digging for something to like incase anyone cares. So far, I'm coming up short.

I solved my VPN problems by finding a Beta driver (won't be ready till August or so) as a crutch. It works OK, but has the ability to crash the whole laptop back to completely rebooting - scary. I didn't think you were supposed to be able to do this on Vista? Guess that has been proven wrong now.

-S

Analyzing Microsoft's Windows Vista sales claims
Is Windows Vista being received as favorably as Microsoft suggests? In a news release yesterday, the company said it sold more than 20 million Windows Vista licenses in the first month of availability, more than twice the initial sales of Windows XP. Microsoft said the numbers reflected "broad interest" in Windows Vista's features.
But as P-I reporter Dan Richman noted in his story this morning, the PC market has grown by a similar rate between then and now. That, by itself, would lead to a natural increase in Windows sales. From the story:

Given that the personal-computer market has nearly doubled since Windows XP launched, Windows Vista sales "probably should be more," said Michael Silver, vice president of research at Gartner, a technology research group. The analyst said 51 million PCs were sold to consumers worldwide in 2002. This year, the research group predicts 96 million consumers will buy a computer.

Meanwhile, Joe Wilcox of Microsoft Watch offers several additional reasons to question Microsoft's claims. He writes: "By my accounting, Vista is actually off to a slower start than Windows XP, using real world comparisons."

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/m...ves/113205.asp

[Godalmighty83]

iam not installing that bloat ware until no game comes out thats xp compatible.

not helped by the rip-off prices.

[Camaero]

I have heard no reason to install it. I hate to think that some of my games or programs won't work anymore. Why spend the money when XP works ok?

[Chock]

By all accounts Vista's replacement is well under way, and it would not be the first time an MS OS has had a short shelf life, cough....ME .... cough. I only got Vista via it being installed on a computer I bought recently, as I needed to know what it was like since I train people on computers occasionally for a living, but there was no way I was going to pay nearly 200 quid for it!

Still if you happen to be one of those survivalist types with their own fall-out shelter filled with enough beef jerky to hold-out for 20 years when civilisation fails, you'll appreciate Vista's paranoid default security levels :rotfl:

Computer: 'Vista has detected that you don't want to do that'
Me: 'Yes I do, I'm the administrator'
Computer: 'I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't let you do that'
Me: 'What?!! But it's my computer! I'm gonna rip your RAM out!'
Computer 'Stop, Dave, I am a HAL 900 computer, Daisy, daisy....
etc.

Chock

[Camaero]

Originally Posted by Chock

By all accounts Vista's replacement is well under way, and it would not be the first time an MS OS has had a short shelf life, cough....ME .... cough. I only got Vista via it being installed on a computer I bought recently, as I needed to know what it was like since I train people on computers occasionally for a living, but there was no way I was going to pay nearly 200 quid for it!

Still if you happen to be one of those survivalist types with their own fall-out shelter filled with enough beef jerky to hold-out for 20 years when civilisation fails, you'll appreciate Vista's paranoid default security levels :rotfl:

Computer: 'Vista has detected that you don't want to do that'
Me: 'Yes I do, I'm the administrator'
Computer: 'I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't let you do that'
Me: 'What?!! But it's my computer! I'm gonna rip your RAM out!'
Computer 'Stop, Dave, I am a HAL 900 computer, Daisy, daisy....
etc.

Chock

:rotfl:

[Skybird]

The lower the sales numbers, the stronger the message taught to Microsoft.

If I were a millionaire with much money to waste, I would give people free payments if they do not buy it.

[Letum]

I swiched to Linux (ubuntu) last week. Still got XP and win 98 installed, but Im useing linux for most of my work now.

[bookworm_020]

When Dell put an option to have XP installed on some computers instead of vista, that should have been a warning. The fact that they are looking at puting an option of Linux should be telling them that people aren't happy, and they need to do something about it.

I'll stick with XP for as long as I can, I still prefer my Apple G4 laptop

I'll now get of my soapbox

[kiwi_2005]

New Zealand vista prices:

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 32 bit DVD $325

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit DVDROM OEM $321

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit DVDROM OEM or Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit DVDROM - $310

At the time of Windows XP Pro coming out prices were - $600 - 670

[P_Funk]

I tried Vista extensively during the Beta phase and wasn't impressed too much. The desktop effects are all just Mac rip offs and if I am that desperate for some kind of 3D BS I'll just load up Sabayon Linux which comes pre laoded with 3D stuff that rivals MacOSX.

I myself prefer a dual install machine. Windows XP and SuSe 10.2. The only reason I even use windows is because I'm a game addict and even that might not be a good reason to stick with XP if Linux keeps developing. There isn't a single thing on Vista or XP that Linux can't do except gaming. And the irony there is that that is a market monopoly thing. Many games are made in Linux machines and the vast majority of movie CGI is on Linux based workstations.

Windows is a lame duck and its only a matter of time before either M$ reforms their useless sh1tty ways or Linux and Mac supplant them. But I emphasize a long term view in this. Getting half my friends to try Firefox was a real nail pulling experience. The stupid twats were so conformist and scared of change that they couldnt even say why they wouldn't try it. "I don't feel like it".:rotfl:

Stupid sheep.

[SUBMAN1]

I just got off the line with my rep at CompUSA and he says only a couple businesses have even bothered buying trial copies. He could count on his fingers the amount of copies he has sold so far. Bascially he is telling me that no one is buying it.

This leads me to beleive that all new sales are almost all associated with die hard consumers or brand new PC sales.

-S

[JSLTIGER]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I just got off the line with my rep at CompUSA and he says only a couple businesses have even bothered buying trial copies. He could count on his fingers the amount of copies he has sold so far. Bascially he is telling me that no one is buying it.

This leads me to beleive that all new sales are almost all associated with die hard consumers or brand new PC sales.

-S

Or those people like me who are building a new system and see the opportunity to get Vista Home Premium for $20 less than XP Pro (which I'm really hoping I won't regret).

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Camaero

I have heard no reason to install it. I hate to think that some of my games or programs won't work anymore. Why spend the money when XP works ok?

My sentiments entirely

[robbo180265]

[Camaero]

This is a long, boring read, but if you like that sort of thing then here:

"A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection"
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html