What a great idea.

[Sailor Steve]

I like it!

The only problem I see is that most employers are private concerns, and have the right to hire and fire whom they please.

On the other hand, government agencies also require tests for employees, so it again becomes a valid argument.

Mandatory drug testing for all government benifits recipients!

Of course a lot of people on welfare might starve or freeze to death, but it's only what they deserve!

[Tchocky]

Of course a lot of people on welfare might starve or freeze to death, but it's only what they deserve!

Thats nice. Sick people deserve to starve to death. How compassionate.

[Enigma]

Theres another issue for us all to disagree on....drug testing my companies!

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I like it!

The only problem I see is that most employers are private concerns, and have the right to hire and fire whom they please.

On the other hand, government agencies also require tests for employees, so it again becomes a valid argument.

Mandatory drug testing for all government benifits recipients!

Of course a lot of people on welfare might starve or freeze to death, but it's only what they deserve!

People who are in legitimate need and are not using their benefits for illicit or alchoholic endeavors have nothing to fear. They will not loose their benefits.

I'm aware that many people who are legitimately in need and are are trying to make the right decisions. I see this measure as helping those in real need even more.
They will no longer have to share the limited resources with those who only want to get drunk or high.

[TteFAboB]

But how much would the testing cost? To be worth it it would have to be pretty cheap, otherwise it'd make the benefits even more demanding.

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

But how much would the testing cost? To be worth it it would have to be pretty cheap, otherwise it'd make the benefits even more demanding.

Simple urine or saliva tests can be had for $5.00.

Since the gov't will be involved, lets make it $15.00/week.

[August]

Originally Posted by waste gate

Simple urine or saliva tests can be had for $5.00.

Since the gov't will be involved, lets make it $15.00/week.

Yeah and who is going to administer the tests and how much will that cost?

[GSpector]

Hello All,

I'm thinking that if this idea was implimented, it would save the City, State and National Government a lot of money.

So I am not sure why the cost to hire maybe 3 nurses at each welfare office would be a problem. They would still come out way ahead.:hmm:

Originally Posted by August

Yeah and who is going to administer the tests and how much will that cost?

That is why I added $10.00. Administration fees.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by Enigma

Theres another issue for us all to disagree on....drug testing my companies!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Thats nice. Sick people deserve to starve to death. How compassionate.

I knew there'd be at least one. If you've ever read a single thing I've ever written, I'd love to know what made you think I was being serious?

Or is "sarcasm" not in your vocabulary?



Oh, by the way, if you'd ever read anything I've written, you would also know that I'm currently dependent on similar government aid. Oh, that means I'm homeless, in case you couldn't figure that one out.

[August]

Originally Posted by waste gate

That is why I added $10.00. Administration fees.

Way, way too low. You'd need to create an entire new regulatory and enforcement department on either a city or state level to run the program. These of course would be civil service jobs requiring top of the line medical and dental benefits, retirement and other perks.

You'd also need to provide further, far more expensive tests to recheck any postive results you get as those cheap ones would never stand up in court. Speaking of court, you'd need to either hire or retain lawyers to handle the flood of lawsuits from those whom you deny benefits to, as well as from their dependants who will also be negatively effected by such a plan.

I'd say your costs would run at least into the millions per year range even for small states. Big ones like California will probably run into the 100s of millions and that's not even including the increased crime that would result from it.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I knew there'd be at least one. If you've ever read a single thing I've ever written, I'd love to know what made you think I was being serious?

Or is "sarcasm" not in your vocabulary?



Oh, by the way, if you'd ever read anything I've written, you would also know that I'm currently dependent on similar government aid. Oh, that means I'm homeless, in case you couldn't figure that one out.

I thought you were being serious. I operate on a "post, not poster" basis, because I don't spend much time on this forum, and thus dont have a knowledge of members personal posting styles. Also, I dont believe I can argue beyond the post.
I didn't know that you were homeless, and I wasnt going to search through previous posts to find that out.

[STEED]

If you think I am going to take a leak in front of my boss into a test tube you got to be joking. :rotfl: