Sea Story ... The Real Thing

geetrue · 01-18-07, 04:50 PM

Sea Story …

This is a real sea story … I don’t have a link,
but the pictures at the end will prove this ain’t no lie …

For those too young to remember, during Viet Nam conflict, carriers were
so woefully short of ordnance that missions were often launched with only
a half load just to keep the sortie rate up so that the REMF's in DC would
not send out blistering messages about failure to support the war effort, etc.

Yes, this really happened

Once again history is stranger then fiction, and a lot funnier:

USS Midway VA-25's Toilet Bomb.

In October 1965, CDR Clarence J. Stoddard, Executive Officer of VA-25
"Fist of the Fleet", flying an A-1H Skyraider, NE/572 "Paper Tiger II" from
Carrier Air Wing Two aboard USS Midway carried a special bomb to the
North Vietnamese in commemoration of the 6-millionth pound of ordnance
dropped. This bomb was unique because of the type... it was a toilet!

The following is an account of this event, courtesy of Clint Johnson, Captain,
USNR Ret. Captain Johnson was one of the two VA-25 A-1 Skyraider pilots
credited with shooting down a MiG-17 on June 20, 1965.

"I was a pilot in VA-25 on the 1965 Vietnam cruise.

572 was flown by CDR C. W. "Bill" Stoddard. His wingman in 577
(which was my assigned airplane) was LCDR Robin Bacon, who had a
wing station mounted movie camera (the only one remaining in the fleet
from WWII).

The flight was a Dixie Station strike ( South Vietnam ) going to the Delta.
When they arrived in the target area and CDR Stoddard was reading the
ordnance list to the FAC, he ended with "and one code name Sani-flush".

The FAC couldn't believe it and joined up to see it. It was dropped in a dive
with LCDR Bacon flying tight wing position to film the drop. When it came off,
it turned hole to the wind and almost struck his airplane.

It made a great ready room movie. The FAC said that it whistled all the way
down.

The toilet was a damaged toilet, which was going to be thrown overboard.

One of our plane captains rescued it and the ordnance crew made a rack,
tailfins and nose fuse for it. Our checkers maintained a position to block the
view of the air boss and the Captain while the aircraft was taxiing forward.

Just as it was being shot off we got a 1MC message from the bridge, "What the
hell was on 572's right wing?" There were a lot of jokes with air intelligence about
germ warfare. I wish that we had saved the movie film."

YNCS D on Harribine, USN(ret)

FIREWALL · 01-18-07, 05:03 PM

That's wild :rotfl: thx for shareing that with us. And your rite if we didn't see it we wouldn't beleive it .:rotfl:

CCIP · 01-18-07, 05:13 PM

Beautiful! Naval aviation story, more like, but still

I love the Skyraiders. They're in that tradition of slow, ugly and tough that defines great attack planes

bookworm_020 · 01-18-07, 05:28 PM

I would love to know what the reaction of the North Vietnamese who found that after the strike!

If the film exists, it should be sent to the music of "Ride of the Valkyries":p

CCIP · 01-18-07, 05:31 PM

Unless it was parachute-retarded, I don't think there's much left for the North Vietnamese to find :p

August · 01-18-07, 05:50 PM

Pieces of it are probably sitting in some dusty war museum in Vietnam labled "Piece of Yankee dog aircraft"

geetrue · 01-18-07, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Captain Johnson was one of the two VA-25 A-1 Skyraider pilots
credited with shooting down a MiG-17 on June 20, 1965.

That's the part that makes me proud of those guys ...
Wow! Prop plane shoots down Mig-17 ...

bookworm_020 · 01-19-07, 12:39 AM

Ther were a couple cases of it happaning in the vietnam and koeran wars. They could turn tighter and fly slower, which ment some jet pilots ended in the crosshairs of there gunsights if they hadn't paid attenion!

The fact the these older aircraft had guns, when the american jet fighters of the day (F-4's, early verisons) didn't, often helped them survive as they could put up a godd defence in the right hands.

U-104 · 01-19-07, 01:06 AM

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rot fl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

U-533 · 01-19-07, 06:08 AM

I love it ...:rotfl: :rotfl:

Now days though that would be "Politically Incorrect".... aah the days when you could hurl insults at your enemy and not be sued

The Avon Lady · 01-19-07, 06:09 AM

That would explain the sudden disappearence of the Tidy Bowl man at around the same time.

Camaero · 01-19-07, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-533

I love it ...:rotfl: :rotfl:

Now days though that would be "Politically Incorrect".... aah the days when you could hurl insults at your enemy and not be sued

:rotfl:

I miss those days.

01-18-07, 04:50 PM	#1
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Sea Story ... The Real Thing Sea Story … This is a real sea story … I don’t have a link, but the pictures at the end will prove this ain’t no lie … For those too young to remember, during Viet Nam conflict, carriers were so woefully short of ordnance that missions were often launched with only a half load just to keep the sortie rate up so that the REMF's in DC would not send out blistering messages about failure to support the war effort, etc. Yes, this really happened Once again history is stranger then fiction, and a lot funnier: USS Midway VA-25's Toilet Bomb. In October 1965, CDR Clarence J. Stoddard, Executive Officer of VA-25 "Fist of the Fleet", flying an A-1H Skyraider, NE/572 "Paper Tiger II" from Carrier Air Wing Two aboard USS Midway carried a special bomb to the North Vietnamese in commemoration of the 6-millionth pound of ordnance dropped. This bomb was unique because of the type... it was a toilet! The following is an account of this event, courtesy of Clint Johnson, Captain, USNR Ret. Captain Johnson was one of the two VA-25 A-1 Skyraider pilots credited with shooting down a MiG-17 on June 20, 1965. "I was a pilot in VA-25 on the 1965 Vietnam cruise. 572 was flown by CDR C. W. "Bill" Stoddard. His wingman in 577 (which was my assigned airplane) was LCDR Robin Bacon, who had a wing station mounted movie camera (the only one remaining in the fleet from WWII). The flight was a Dixie Station strike ( South Vietnam ) going to the Delta. When they arrived in the target area and CDR Stoddard was reading the ordnance list to the FAC, he ended with "and one code name Sani-flush". The FAC couldn't believe it and joined up to see it. It was dropped in a dive with LCDR Bacon flying tight wing position to film the drop. When it came off, it turned hole to the wind and almost struck his airplane. It made a great ready room movie. The FAC said that it whistled all the way down. The toilet was a damaged toilet, which was going to be thrown overboard. One of our plane captains rescued it and the ordnance crew made a rack, tailfins and nose fuse for it. Our checkers maintained a position to block the view of the air boss and the Captain while the aircraft was taxiing forward. Just as it was being shot off we got a 1MC message from the bridge, "What the hell was on 572's right wing?" There were a lot of jokes with air intelligence about germ warfare. I wish that we had saved the movie film." YNCS D on Harribine, USN(ret) __________________

01-18-07, 05:03 PM	#2
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	That's wild :rotfl: thx for shareing that with us. And your rite if we didn't see it we wouldn't beleive it .:rotfl: __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ??? Last edited by Gizzmoe; 01-19-07 at 12:59 AM.

01-18-07, 05:13 PM	#3
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Beautiful! Naval aviation story, more like, but still I love the Skyraiders. They're in that tradition of slow, ugly and tough that defines great attack planes __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

01-18-07, 05:28 PM	#4
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I would love to know what the reaction of the North Vietnamese who found that after the strike! If the film exists, it should be sent to the music of "Ride of the Valkyries":p __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

01-18-07, 05:31 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Unless it was parachute-retarded, I don't think there's much left for the North Vietnamese to find :p __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

01-18-07, 05:50 PM	#6
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Pieces of it are probably sitting in some dusty war museum in Vietnam labled "Piece of Yankee dog aircraft" __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

01-19-07, 12:39 AM	#8
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Ther were a couple cases of it happaning in the vietnam and koeran wars. They could turn tighter and fly slower, which ment some jet pilots ended in the crosshairs of there gunsights if they hadn't paid attenion! The fact the these older aircraft had guns, when the american jet fighters of the day (F-4's, early verisons) didn't, often helped them survive as they could put up a godd defence in the right hands. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

01-19-07, 01:06 AM	#9
U-104 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United States Posts: 797 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rot fl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: __________________ My heart is steadfast, O God. I will sing and make music with all my soul. Ps. 108:1 Survival of the fittest does not explain arrival of the fittest. we live in a single spoken sentence.. "God said, let there be"

01-19-07, 06:08 AM	#10
U-533 Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: On my Boat Posts: 594 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I love it ...:rotfl: :rotfl: Now days though that would be "Politically Incorrect".... aah the days when you could hurl insults at your enemy and not be sued

01-19-07, 06:09 AM	#11
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	That would explain the sudden disappearence of the Tidy Bowl man at around the same time. __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

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