At it again

dudtorpedo · 12-25-06, 08:55 PM

Started to play sh3 again last week and have been able to avoid any screwups for 10 missions now thanks to your helpfull tips last time. Got a simple question. Watched Das Boot again and i got the impression that "obersteurmann Kriechbaum" is the second in command after the captain. I thought the cheif engineer is second? Which officer in sh3 is the obersteurmann? , the NO?? Its not important but its nice to know which one is next in command.:hmm:

AVGWarhawk · 12-26-06, 08:56 AM

I think your watch officer is the second in command. I'm only guessing though!

Jimbuna · 12-26-06, 09:50 AM

The second in command at any given point in time would be the officer on watch duty at the time. But for the purpose of the overall chain of command (the individual who would take command in the event of the captin 'falling') IMO would be the Weapons Officer.

irish1958 · 12-26-06, 09:56 AM

Check their ranks. The next in command will be the higher ranking officer, or NCO if all the officers are killed or disabled. If the rank is the same, the senior officer is the one commissioned first.

Jimbuna · 12-26-06, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irish1958

Check their ranks. The next in command will be the higher ranking officer, or NCO if all the officers are killed or disabled. If the rank is the same, the senior officer is the one commissioned first.

I believe my earlier post is true of the surface fleet

Unless it is different in the U-boat service I'd certainly be interested to know :hmm:

hyperion2206 · 12-26-06, 10:07 AM

The U-Boats had the I. WO (First Watch Officer) and the II. WO (Second Watch Officer). If the Captain died the I.WO took over even if their was an officer with an higher rank, because he was the XO.

dudtorpedo · 12-26-06, 10:33 AM

:hmm: WO, didnt think of him. Its just a movie but the reason i wonder is that the captain asked "kriechbaum" for advice in the convoy attack but then the "high strung nazi type guy from mexico" makes the shot at the burning tanker. In the beginning of the movie the officer later seen most on the bridge(WO then maybe) has an iron cross so maybe ur right that it is the WO. If u think i´ve seen that movie to many times ur correct

. But what a movie it is, greatest warmovie ever

Jimbuna · 12-26-06, 10:36 AM

Check here:

http://www.uboataces.com/ref-crew.shtml

Quote:

First Watch Officer (1WO) Oberleutnant zur See or Leutnant zur See Executive Officer. The second in command.
He shadowed the CO closely so that he could take command if the CO fell ill or was killed in battle. His other responsibilities included the boat’s weapons systems and conducting torpedo aiming during surface attacks.

Sailor Steve · 12-26-06, 11:51 AM

First is the First Watch Officer (IWO or 1WO). Yes, the nazi. He is an Oberleutnant, and the only other man of that rank is the Chief Engineer, who, being an engineer is not in the command chain at all. Second, of course, is the Second Watch Officer. Krichbaum's position is Obersteurmann, but his rank is only Oberfanrich sur See (similar to an American Ensign). In the book he was older than the two officers senior to him but joined late, hence the low rank. The captain respects him and asks for advice from time to time, but this is also partly to encourage him to strive for higher rank and not just wait out the war.

Even the Fanrich (Midshipman) Ullmann outranks the Chief as far as command structure goes.

dudtorpedo · 12-26-06, 02:20 PM

ok, got it

nice link btw

Jimbuna · 12-26-06, 03:42 PM

your welcome

12-25-06, 08:55 PM	#1
dudtorpedo Watch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 18 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	At it again Started to play sh3 again last week and have been able to avoid any screwups for 10 missions now thanks to your helpfull tips last time. Got a simple question. Watched Das Boot again and i got the impression that "obersteurmann Kriechbaum" is the second in command after the captain. I thought the cheif engineer is second? Which officer in sh3 is the obersteurmann? , the NO?? Its not important but its nice to know which one is next in command.:hmm:

12-26-06, 08:56 AM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I think your watch officer is the second in command. I'm only guessing though! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

12-26-06, 09:50 AM	#3
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The second in command at any given point in time would be the officer on watch duty at the time. But for the purpose of the overall chain of command (the individual who would take command in the event of the captin 'falling') IMO would be the Weapons Officer. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-26-06, 09:56 AM	#4
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	officers Check their ranks. The next in command will be the higher ranking officer, or NCO if all the officers are killed or disabled. If the rank is the same, the senior officer is the one commissioned first. __________________ Irish1958

12-26-06, 10:33 AM	#7
dudtorpedo Watch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 18 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	hmm :hmm: WO, didnt think of him. Its just a movie but the reason i wonder is that the captain asked "kriechbaum" for advice in the convoy attack but then the "high strung nazi type guy from mexico" makes the shot at the burning tanker. In the beginning of the movie the officer later seen most on the bridge(WO then maybe) has an iron cross so maybe ur right that it is the WO. If u think i´ve seen that movie to many times ur correct. But what a movie it is, greatest warmovie ever

12-26-06, 10:07 AM	#6
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	The U-Boats had the I. WO (First Watch Officer) and the II. WO (Second Watch Officer). If the Captain died the I.WO took over even if their was an officer with an higher rank, because he was the XO.

12-26-06, 11:51 AM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	First is the First Watch Officer (IWO or 1WO). Yes, the nazi. He is an Oberleutnant, and the only other man of that rank is the Chief Engineer, who, being an engineer is not in the command chain at all. Second, of course, is the Second Watch Officer. Krichbaum's position is Obersteurmann, but his rank is only Oberfanrich sur See (similar to an American Ensign). In the book he was older than the two officers senior to him but joined late, hence the low rank. The captain respects him and asks for advice from time to time, but this is also partly to encourage him to strive for higher rank and not just wait out the war. Even the Fanrich (Midshipman) Ullmann outranks the Chief as far as command structure goes. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-26-06, 02:20 PM	#10
dudtorpedo Watch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 18 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	ok, got it nice link btw

12-26-06, 03:42 PM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	your welcome __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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