Israel - lock n load!

kiwi_2005 · 10-20-06, 05:57 AM

If Israel can stop 400 million arabs from overtaking them

Then why the hell do they not take out the Iranian president. This guy needs to be taken down. Hes a threat not just to israel but all us westerners. No1 enemy in my books

I hear the Mossad would have no problem in completing this mission

The nutter speaks
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...317417,00.html <-----This way TteFAboB

TteFAboB · 10-20-06, 06:39 AM

I feel so blind, thanks for the directions.

Skybird · 10-20-06, 06:41 AM

Iran is in an extremely strong position, and I tend to think of them as one of the most dominant and influential powers on the globe. We may not like it, but currently I see no way to seriously hurt them without using nukes. they are close to invulnerable as long as China and India do not let them down - and why should they...??? As a matter of fact - we depend on them - while they do not need the West that much. For what should they need the West? Every oil they do not sell to the West, will happily bought by India and China.

If you want to bully someone, make sure you have solid stand. In this, we have not.

That's why I say time and again: without making it our absolute top priority to become independent from Muslim oil, all our actions about Iran, Islam, hezbollah - only is hot air. We can't afford it another fifty years to depend on them selling us oil (or not). We can't depend anymore to live at the receiving end of these incredible vulnerable lifelines of tankers and pipelines and trading lines that are so very open to attack and shutting-down by anyone who likes to do that.

And the Iranians know that! As an Israeli security expert recently pointed out in a German interview, Arabs are proud of their traditions and thus tend to act stereotypic and repeat the same old mistakes time and again, but the Persians are no Arabs, and are smart thinkers and clever minds - which makes them an extremely dangerous enemy.

Also mind you that it falls into this scheme that the most dominant crisis in the ME is not around Israel, but the confrontation between Shia and Sunni Islam. Sunni Arabs fear Shia Iran very much. the conflict is one millennium old, and never was cold. Sunnis have understood that Israel is no threat to their regimes. But Iran-supported Shia Islam is a very extreme danger to them. Have you noticed how relatively silent the Sunni states were about Israel trying to crack Iran-backed Shia Hezbollah?

The inner conflict of an enemy is our benefit. i wonder why we do not start to think about how we could widen and exploit the gap within Islam, economically, culturally, financially, politically, by every means available. Oh wait, that is not considered to be polite, I suppose. Oh dear... Once Shias will believe somebody - no matter who it is - who is telling them he is their hidden Iman who returned to them, their in a way "defensive" understanding of jihad will switch to unlimted attack mode (that'S why they are waiting so desperately). Then we will see Islam in uncontrolled charge. we can't afford to let such a person rise to that accepted status of being their long-awaited Imam. Ahmadinejad is referring to that tradition - that's why he gains so many sympathies.

HunterICX · 10-20-06, 06:50 AM

seems that we are waiting till the day will come that we are in an open war.
you know its comming , but when?

Skybird · 10-20-06, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX

seems that we are waiting till the day will come that we are in an open war.
you know its comming , but when?

Hopefully not before we are no longer depending on their oil. Else we will have lost it the day war broke out. and even then it is an extremely risky adventure, and our victory - or even survival - is anything but certain. We are more vulnerable, then they are. Our high complexity and developement standard only works as long as we are confronted with lower powers that can not really hurt us. If faced with the ablity to exploit our weaknesses, we no longer look like the winners for sure - our dependencies on what makes us to superior to lower factions, turns into threatening vulnerability of ourselves.

All wars of the US since WWII have been against much weaker, local factions only that could not project influence or combat effectiveness beyond their region. and even under these optimal conditions, the war sometimes failed (Korea an unsatisfying draw with hurting long-term consequences, Vietnam a total defeat, Iraq a total defeat, Afghanistan about getting lost, the "Stellvertreterkrieg" of Israel versus Hezbollah being a defeat as well - it was the general test and preparation-effort towards an Iran war).

I can only warn of easily starting a war against Iran. And do not even start again to think about wanting to missionise them again towards western understandings of freedom and democracy...!!! try that, and if you do not loose the war during the field battle, you will loose it afterwards nevertheless.

fredbass · 10-20-06, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

If Israel can stop 400 million arabs from overtaking them

Then why the hell do they not take out the Iranian president. This guy needs to be taken down. Hes a threat not just to israel but all us westerners. No1 enemy in my books.

Don't worry, they'll do what they have to do. There's been a number of covert and secret operations against them already. I'm sure there will be more. Plus they can do our work for us. They're excellent sub-contractors.

SUBMAN1 · 10-20-06, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

If Israel can stop 400 million arabs from overtaking them

Then why the hell do they not take out the Iranian president. This guy needs to be taken down. Hes a threat not just to israel but all us westerners. No1 enemy in my books

I hear the Mossad would have no problem in completing this mission

The nutter speaks
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...317417,00.html <-----This way TteFAboB

Because it would be a waste of time. He has no real power in that country. He is merly a puppet.

HunterICX · 10-20-06, 10:36 AM

:hmm: like I have to agree with skybird
it sounds like ''we're screwed anyway if we dont think of an solution fast''

10-20-06, 10:38 AM

Hey! Kiwi_2005,
It sounds to me like your book is the book of the "jew puppet"!
shalom,

SUBMAN1 · 10-20-06, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary

Hey! Kiwi_2005,
It sounds to me like your book is the book of the "jew puppet"!
shalom,

I'd rather be a jew puppet than a brainless towel head, or should we call them little Sheet Heads?

10-20-06, 11:28 AM

"Little sheet heads" that's cute. I hope you would understand
that there are two sides to every story (minimum) and with the
jew controlled media we as Americans have been so deceived about
who are real enemies really are. I belive we as a nation have
been duped in to this mideast conflict.

SUBMAN1 · 10-20-06, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary

"Little sheet heads" that's cute. I hope you would understand
that there are two sides to every story (minimum) and with the
jew controlled media we as Americans have been so deceived about
who are real enemies really are. I belive we as a nation have
been duped in to this mideast conflict.

I don't think so. Anyone that wants to kill me for simply not conforming to their religion needs to be nuked. Plain and simple. These people want me dead simply because i am not Muslim. I think you have been a bit deceived.

Also, who would conform to a god such as theirs which is nothing more than a tyrant? One that says your good list must be longer than your bad list for you to get into heaven? One that says, the only way you are going to heaven since your bad lid outweighs your good list and you can never hope to recover from it except to sacrafice yourself into killing the infidels by becoming a human bomb?

Are you nuts to even suggest or condone that sort of behavior? You would have to be. 72 virgins, hahaha! That would constitute infidelity in my book. Seems the Koran was written more under convinience than under what is right and wrong. If you look at history though, this was a popular thing to create religions at the time this one was created, so it is not surprising.

-S

HunterICX · 10-20-06, 11:58 AM

Subman,

I agree with the part about ''killing us because we arent muslim''
Nukes destroys a bit too much...but if some muslim tries to kill me and if he failes I make sure he pays for it.
I would give him an Old Style infidelish whoopass that will lead to his death or very critical state in an hospital.
and you hear them talking about an ''Torture death'' well I paste a sticker on his forehead saying ''Pwned by a Infidel''

10-20-06, 12:13 PM

In a Muslim nation the people of that nation can require foreigners
to submit to their laws any way they see fit. That is their country
Consider if you will that Muslims are subjected to the same type
propaganda about us as we are about them, generally speaking.
Concerning their religious motives just remember Iran is an
independent nation therefore dose not grovel for jew approval.

SUBMAN1 · 10-20-06, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary

In a Muslim nation the people of that nation can require foreigners
to submit to their laws any way they see fit. That is their country
Consider if you will that Muslims are subjected to the same type
propaganda about us as we are about them, generally speaking.
Concerning their religious motives just remember Iran is an
independent nation therefore dose not grovel for jew approval.

WHo grovels for Jew approval? Is this Gary happy land? Most Americans are pretty much nuetral to the subject, but we also feel we must defend them if they are attacked unfairly. Same as with any other country. When Afganistan was unfairly attacked, the US stepped in and delivered arms. Vietnam, same issue. Grenada, same issue. Kuwait, same issue. Korea, same issue. Even Somalia is along the same lines. Need I go on with this list?

THe point is, to suggest we favor one country over the other is not correct. To suggest that the Jewish state controls ours is not correct. The more correct answer is that we support them because they have been subjected to crimes against their state! Quite frankly, I am not quite sure why they haven't done something against the rockets flying into their country for no reason. Hezbollah just decides to launch here and there and I don't quite get why everyone is upset that Isreal got ticked off and bombed the hell out of them??? Yeah, I'd have to side with Isreal on that one. If some country allowed rockets to be fired into mine indescriminently, I'd have my ass up on Capitol Hill demanding answers as to why we didn't retaliate! Someone kidnaps our soldiers, same thing. I don't understand why some countries claim they responded too harshly. I am wondering personally, why they didn't respond with more force???

-S

10-20-06, 05:57 AM	#1
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Israel - lock n load! If Israel can stop 400 million arabs from overtaking them Then why the hell do they not take out the Iranian president. This guy needs to be taken down. Hes a threat not just to israel but all us westerners. No1 enemy in my books I hear the Mossad would have no problem in completing this mission The nutter speaks http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...317417,00.html <-----This way TteFAboB __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others. Last edited by kiwi_2005; 10-20-06 at 06:28 AM.

10-20-06, 06:39 AM	#2
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I feel so blind, thanks for the directions. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

10-20-06, 06:41 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,632 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Iran is in an extremely strong position, and I tend to think of them as one of the most dominant and influential powers on the globe. We may not like it, but currently I see no way to seriously hurt them without using nukes. they are close to invulnerable as long as China and India do not let them down - and why should they...??? As a matter of fact - we depend on them - while they do not need the West that much. For what should they need the West? Every oil they do not sell to the West, will happily bought by India and China. If you want to bully someone, make sure you have solid stand. In this, we have not. That's why I say time and again: without making it our absolute top priority to become independent from Muslim oil, all our actions about Iran, Islam, hezbollah - only is hot air. We can't afford it another fifty years to depend on them selling us oil (or not). We can't depend anymore to live at the receiving end of these incredible vulnerable lifelines of tankers and pipelines and trading lines that are so very open to attack and shutting-down by anyone who likes to do that. And the Iranians know that! As an Israeli security expert recently pointed out in a German interview, Arabs are proud of their traditions and thus tend to act stereotypic and repeat the same old mistakes time and again, but the Persians are no Arabs, and are smart thinkers and clever minds - which makes them an extremely dangerous enemy. Also mind you that it falls into this scheme that the most dominant crisis in the ME is not around Israel, but the confrontation between Shia and Sunni Islam. Sunni Arabs fear Shia Iran very much. the conflict is one millennium old, and never was cold. Sunnis have understood that Israel is no threat to their regimes. But Iran-supported Shia Islam is a very extreme danger to them. Have you noticed how relatively silent the Sunni states were about Israel trying to crack Iran-backed Shia Hezbollah? The inner conflict of an enemy is our benefit. i wonder why we do not start to think about how we could widen and exploit the gap within Islam, economically, culturally, financially, politically, by every means available. Oh wait, that is not considered to be polite, I suppose. Oh dear... Once Shias will believe somebody - no matter who it is - who is telling them he is their hidden Iman who returned to them, their in a way "defensive" understanding of jihad will switch to unlimted attack mode (that'S why they are waiting so desperately). Then we will see Islam in uncontrolled charge. we can't afford to let such a person rise to that accepted status of being their long-awaited Imam. Ahmadinejad is referring to that tradition - that's why he gains so many sympathies. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 10-20-06 at 06:50 AM.

10-20-06, 06:50 AM	#4
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	seems that we are waiting till the day will come that we are in an open war. you know its comming , but when? __________________

10-20-06, 10:36 AM	#8
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	:hmm: like I have to agree with skybird it sounds like ''we're screwed anyway if we dont think of an solution fast'' __________________

10-20-06, 10:38 AM	#9
Gary Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	spoon feed lies Hey! Kiwi_2005, It sounds to me like your book is the book of the "jew puppet"! shalom,

10-20-06, 11:28 AM	#11
Gary Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	spoon feed lies "Little sheet heads" that's cute. I hope you would understand that there are two sides to every story (minimum) and with the jew controlled media we as Americans have been so deceived about who are real enemies really are. I belive we as a nation have been duped in to this mideast conflict.

10-20-06, 11:58 AM	#13
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Subman, I agree with the part about ''killing us because we arent muslim'' Nukes destroys a bit too much...but if some muslim tries to kill me and if he failes I make sure he pays for it. I would give him an Old Style infidelish whoopass that will lead to his death or very critical state in an hospital. and you hear them talking about an ''Torture death'' well I paste a sticker on his forehead saying ''Pwned by a Infidel'' __________________

10-20-06, 12:13 PM	#14
Gary Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	spoon feed lies In a Muslim nation the people of that nation can require foreigners to submit to their laws any way they see fit. That is their country Consider if you will that Muslims are subjected to the same type propaganda about us as we are about them, generally speaking. Concerning their religious motives just remember Iran is an independent nation therefore dose not grovel for jew approval.