"Genocide'em up"... ?

Skybird · 10-10-06, 05:35 AM

http://www.everybody-dies.com/

I just red a German essay about this game, and it's predecessors. the author argued that exactly the cool, sober, abstract presentation of the mass killing going on in this game works as a motivation for the player to become aware of the cynism and think about the anti-moral dimensions and grim reality of "global thermonuclear war", making it effectively an "anti-war game".

????

Should I take that guy serious, or should i give therapy to him?

The (German language) essay can be found here:

http://www.heise.de/bin/tp/issue/r4/...726&mode=print

CB.. · 10-10-06, 05:41 AM

doesn't it remind you of that tic tac toe computer movie- can't remember the name- where a computer takes over the control of missile launchs and has to discover by trail and error that it can't win a nuclear war?

10-10-06, 09:59 AM

Sounds like a boring game from what I've read!

I think Globar War that came out a few years ago from Golem software would be better than this. W

What is the point of this game if all that happens is a million thermal nukes fly across the screen and explode all around the world and everyone dies? The game might as well play itself! This is why most games like Dangerous Waters have always refused to add playable submarines with nukes on them. All the player would have to do is use those and the game would be over! Yawn!

jumpy · 10-10-06, 10:59 AM

^^
Yes but the point is as follows:

It's Global Thermonuclear War, and nobody wins.
But maybe - just maybe - you can lose the least.

I like this one. Very, how shall I say, topical?

:hmm:

ASWnut101 · 10-10-06, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jumpy

I like this one. Very, how shall I say, topical?

:hmm:

Love that pic. for those of you who dont know, that is the nuclear test of "Ivy Mike," more commonly reffered to as just "Mike" It was the U.S.'s first Hydrogen Bomb test, equaling 12-15 Megatons. It was the second biggest bomb in the U.S., the winner obviously goes to "Castle Bravo," which was the biggest U.S. bomb tested. Biggest one in the world was the Russian "Tsar Bomba," measuring 50+ Megatons (that equals 500,000,000 tons of TNT). here are the pretty cool videos for them:

Ivy Mike: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...Ivy+Mike&hl=en

Castle Bravo: sorry, couln't find one...

, so heres a pic!: http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/...voC1024c10.jpg

Tsar Bomba: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ar+Bomba&hl=en

these are pretty cool, enjoy!

jumpy · 10-10-06, 07:17 PM

Yup, that nuclearweaponsarchive.org place is an interesting site

been there before, some of the photographs are awesome. Which reminds me, I must put 'The Atomic Bomb story - Trinity and Beyend ' (narrated by Kaptain Shatner.. I mean William Kir.. you know who :p hehe) on my list of DVD's to get.

ASWnut101 · 10-10-06, 07:33 PM

yes, that is a very good idea and movie! I just watch it whenever it comes on TV

Konovalov · 10-11-06, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jumpy

Yup, that nuclearweaponsarchive.org place is an interesting site

been there before, some of the photographs are awesome. Which reminds me, I must put 'The Atomic Bomb story - Trinity and Beyend ' (narrated by Kaptain Shatner.. I mean William Kir.. you know who :p hehe) on my list of DVD's to get.

It is a great DVD to have. The soundtrack on it is great, let alone the film footage and photography not to mention the interview with Dr Teller, the daddy of the hydrogen bomb. Get it now!

porphy · 10-10-06, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Sounds like a boring game from what I've read!

What is the point of this game if all that happens is a million thermal nukes fly across the screen and explode all around the world and everyone dies? The game might as well play itself! This is why most games like Dangerous Waters have always refused to add playable submarines with nukes on them. All the player would have to do is use those and the game would be over! Yawn!

Looks like you have to reread about how the game works and what the "point" in playing it is.

10-10-06, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by porphy

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Sounds like a boring game from what I've read!

What is the point of this game if all that happens is a million thermal nukes fly across the screen and explode all around the world and everyone dies? The game might as well play itself! This is why most games like Dangerous Waters have always refused to add playable submarines with nukes on them. All the player would have to do is use those and the game would be over! Yawn!

Looks like you have to reread about how the game works and what the "point" in playing it is.

No thanks! I'll just play SHIII instead!

Skybird · 10-10-06, 05:48 AM

that movie you mean is "Wargames" from the early 80s, with Matthew Broderick. In fact, the game owes to that film and copies the general design of the screens in the command centre of NORAD. The german essay especially points direction to that movie, too.

CB.. · 10-10-06, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

that movie you mean is "Wargames" from the early 80s, with Matthew Broderick. In fact, the game owes to that film and copies the general design of the screens in the command centre of NORAD. The german essay especially points direction to that movie, too.

cheers that's the one..yup it's identical allmost ..wonder what the game plays like?

Onkel Neal · 10-10-06, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CB..

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Originally Posted by Skybird

that movie you mean is "Wargames" from the early 80s, with Matthew Broderick. In fact, the game owes to that film and copies the general design of the screens in the command centre of NORAD. The german essay especially points direction to that movie, too.

cheers that's the one..yup it's identical allmost ..wonder what the game plays like?

Defon: http://207.44.214.111/subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=98121

Skybird · 10-10-06, 08:07 AM

See, see!

The Noob · 10-10-06, 08:09 AM

Played the Demo, and it's a Great Game!

10-10-06, 05:35 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,611 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	"Genocide'em up"... ? http://www.everybody-dies.com/ I just red a German essay about this game, and it's predecessors. the author argued that exactly the cool, sober, abstract presentation of the mass killing going on in this game works as a motivation for the player to become aware of the cynism and think about the anti-moral dimensions and grim reality of "global thermonuclear war", making it effectively an "anti-war game". ???? Should I take that guy serious, or should i give therapy to him? The (German language) essay can be found here: http://www.heise.de/bin/tp/issue/r4/...726&mode=print __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-10-06, 05:41 AM	#2
CB.. Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	doesn't it remind you of that tic tac toe computer movie- can't remember the name- where a computer takes over the control of missile launchs and has to discover by trail and error that it can't win a nuclear war? __________________ the world's tinyiest sh3 supermod- and other SH3/SH2 stuff http://www.ebort2.co.uk/ The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B.Yeats

10-10-06, 10:59 AM	#4
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	^^ Yes but the point is as follows: It's Global Thermonuclear War, and nobody wins. But maybe - just maybe - you can lose the least. I like this one. Very, how shall I say, topical? :hmm: __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

10-10-06, 07:17 PM	#6
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Yup, that nuclearweaponsarchive.org place is an interesting site been there before, some of the photographs are awesome. Which reminds me, I must put 'The Atomic Bomb story - Trinity and Beyend ' (narrated by Kaptain Shatner.. I mean William Kir.. you know who :p hehe) on my list of DVD's to get. __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

10-10-06, 07:33 PM	#7
ASWnut101 Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,021 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	yes, that is a very good idea and movie! I just watch it whenever it comes on TV __________________

10-10-06, 09:59 AM	#3
SubSerpent Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Sounds like a boring game from what I've read! I think Globar War that came out a few years ago from Golem software would be better than this. W What is the point of this game if all that happens is a million thermal nukes fly across the screen and explode all around the world and everyone dies? The game might as well play itself! This is why most games like Dangerous Waters have always refused to add playable submarines with nukes on them. All the player would have to do is use those and the game would be over! Yawn!

10-10-06, 05:48 AM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,611 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	that movie you mean is "Wargames" from the early 80s, with Matthew Broderick. In fact, the game owes to that film and copies the general design of the screens in the command centre of NORAD. The german essay especially points direction to that movie, too. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-10-06, 08:07 AM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,611 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	See, see! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-10-06, 08:09 AM	#15
The Noob The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: de_dust2 Posts: 1,417 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Played the Demo, and it's a Great Game!