Full Fathem Five-Victory At Sea

[BH]

This is a must watch for anyone those interested in SH4.

This is a documentry of the U.S submarine service, part of the victory at sea series. Lots of good footage of war patrols and various other stuff, well done and worth it. There is interesting information in this video for example:


50% of the sailors who went through sub training quit.

The submarine service was intergrated as their was a black submariner on board.

After sinking a merchant ship, the crew would rescue the jap merchant men and dress then in dungerees and bring them back to pearl.

IJN destroyers had side mounted propelled depth charges, perhaps maintaining sonar contact while DC.

[_Seth_]

Where can i see this??

[BH]

Maybe this helps.
http://www.thegiftsuite.com/victoryatsea.html

They sell it only in box set. The series is excellent covering all fronts in the war.

[JSF]

In an earlier thread someone mention the name of a movie, Operation Petticoat, but didn't know of any other movies from this era. I recommend;

1) Operation Pacific with John Wayne, Patricia O'Neal, Ward Bond
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043887/

2) Destination Tokyo with Cary Grant. Note: LCdr Dudley Morton was an advisor on the set of the film. http://www.moviesunlimited.com/musit...FRciUAodxAXWvg

3) Run Silent Run Deep with Clark Gabble, Burt Lancaster and a list of other notables. Note: This is the movie adaptation of Ed Beache's novel. Ed served throughout the war on some rather famous subs most notable was USS Trigger. He was the Exc Officer. Ed's other book "Submarine" is a very informative read itself. Packed with loads of information you might not otherwise find. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052151/

I highly recommend these films for late night viewing enjoyment. There are other films but these are the ones I remember best.

[Sailor Steve]

Victory At Sea was (and is) a great series, but the submarine part doesn't tell the whole story, or tell it quite accurately.

Originally Posted by BH

The submarine service was intergrated as their was a black submariner on board.

True, but they could only serve as cooks, i.e. servants.

After sinking a merchant ship, the crew would rescue the jap merchant men and dress then in dungerees and bring them back to pearl.

Only on special occasions, and then only a few. A submarine didn't have room for more than a few extra men.

IJN destroyers had side mounted propelled depth charges, perhaps maintaining sonar contact while DC.

So did US and British destroyers. Side-mounted throwers expand the spread, but nobody could maintain contact during and attack until the British developed the hedgehog. Also, a lot of early Japanese escorts didn't even have sonar, only hydrophones.

[Capt. D]

Originally Posted by JSF

In an earlier thread someone mention the name of a movie, Operation Petticoat, but didn't know of any other movies from this era. I recommend;

1) Operation Pacific with John Wayne, Patricia O'Neal, Ward Bond
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043887/

2) Destination Tokyo with Cary Grant. Note: LCdr Dudley Morton was an advisor on the set of the film. http://www.moviesunlimited.com/musit...FRciUAodxAXWvg

3) Run Silent Run Deep with Clark Gabble, Burt Lancaster and a list of other notables. Note: This is the movie adaptation of Ed Beache's novel. Ed served throughout the war on some rather famous subs most notable was USS Trigger. He was the Exc Officer. Ed's other book "Submarine" is a very informative read itself. Packed with loads of information you might not otherwise find. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052151/

I highly recommend these films for late night viewing enjoyment. There are other films but these are the ones I remember best.

Very good movies and have a copy of each.

Also a good WWII Sub movie is "Torpedo Run" with Glenn Ford and Ernest Borgnine.

Happy Hunting

[Cpt. Stewker]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Victory At Sea was (and is) a great series, but the submarine part doesn't tell the whole story, or tell it quite accurately.

True, but they could only serve as cooks, i.e. servants.

Don't think I would say servants and you made it sound like being a cook was such a lowly job to have. Cooks in the navy actually play a rather large role in a ship. Because really when you are out to sea there are very few things to do; you are either on watch, sleeping, or eating. The cook was/is often times one of the most important crew members. They tended to help form the pyschological well being and overall morale of a ship's crew. "You are what you eat." This is even more true on a submarine. Meal time would have been one of the most looked forward parts in a submariners patrol.

Secondly I have a cousin who is in the navy and joined to be a cook, he didn't nessecarily want to be a gunner, or navigator or an engineer or any of the other numerous jobs in the navy (he plans to become a chef after he is out). So yeah "i.e. servant" isn't quite the phrase I would use.

And are you sure that black people in the Navy at that time only served as cooks or as you say servants? During that time there were fighter pilots that were black in the Air Force, so why not the Navy doing something similar. And due to the closeness and crampness of a submarine, friendly relations would almost have to exist on board. So you would expect that to give rise to blacks having other positions besides just "servants".