Turret problem

fubar · 09-13-06, 10:10 AM

Hi all

is there a fix for this problem heres a pic

This area off cyan on the turret should be a light gray colour.
I think it has something to do with the way the game lights the turrets in game,
I've seen this sort of thing in some of the screen shots on this forum, Its a real
pain because in some lighting conditions the turrets look a different colour to the
rest of the ship.

down and out · 09-13-06, 10:30 AM

AFAIK the turret textures are in guns.dat

kylania · 09-13-06, 10:31 AM

Wouldn't those be rust spots or something? Maybe water?

SquareSteelBar · 09-13-06, 01:27 PM

Hi fubar,

maybe there's a modded 'turele.tga' in your TNormal\tex folder. If so, move or delete it and look what will happen to the turrets.

Greetings,
SSB

Notewire · 09-13-06, 01:30 PM

Personally, I never get close enough to those turrets to see them that well, and when I do, there is all this flashing and banging and my crew starts yelling, I never can pay attention to the turret paint . . .

Regards,
Yarre

rasmus1896 · 09-13-06, 02:16 PM

those turrets wat on picture sould not do anything to you cause i think they are german

Kpt. Lehmann · 09-14-06, 08:42 AM

Hi Fubar,

The turret textures are another of SH3's many quirks... they are all the same. There are only two textures IIRC... "turele.tga" and "guns.tga." (again if I recall correctly.)

Anvart · 09-14-06, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

Hi Fubar,

The turret textures are another of SH3's many quirks... they are all the same. There are only two textures IIRC... "turele.tga" and "guns.tga." (again if I recall correctly.)

All these follies from illumination (and material properties). Illumination in SH3 is a "weak place".
If to edit files EnvColors_.... dat and others it is possible to receive still
more surprising results.

Myxale · 09-14-06, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anvart

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

Hi Fubar,

The turret textures are another of SH3's many quirks... they are all the same. There are only two textures IIRC... "turele.tga" and "guns.tga." (again if I recall correctly.)

All these follies from illumination (and material properties). Illumination in SH3 is a "weak place".
If to edit files EnvColors_.... dat and others it is possible to receive still
more surprising results.

Is that why the Watch-Crew has funny face colour sometimes...because of the bad illumination capabilities of the game?

fubar · 09-14-06, 01:47 PM

Thanks for the info guys it apears this problem is something we have to live with.

Kpt. Lehmann did you know sergbuto made a mod which allows you to have different turret skin textures for different ships. this is what I'm useing for some ship skins which I'm making.

Anvart · 09-15-06, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Myxale

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvart

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

Hi Fubar,

The turret textures are another of SH3's many quirks... they are all the same. There are only two textures IIRC... "turele.tga" and "guns.tga." (again if I recall correctly.)

All these follies from illumination (and material properties). Illumination in SH3 is a "weak place".
If to edit files EnvColors_.... dat and others it is possible to receive still
more surprising results.

Is that why the Watch-Crew has funny face colour sometimes...because of the bad illumination capabilities of the game?

Yes.
But illumination of a watchcrew and gunscrew in HumanSub is described in files TurmXX_X_hd.dat and NSS_UboatXX.dat

Hylander_1314 · 09-15-06, 02:48 PM

Fubar, there is a filter in the gimp program "scatter HVS" which helps to blend in those odd colours. I use it on aircraft skins as it helps with that issue, and also gives the texture a somewhat used, weathered appearance without having to do a lot of extra work on your part.

You can adjust it anyway you want from very light to very heavy speckling as it does this at the individual pixel level. But it does take a little getting used to, as you want to tend to use it sparingly, but some of the heavier uses really make things look aged like ships and vehicles.

09-13-06, 10:10 AM	#1
fubar Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 137 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Turret problem Hi all is there a fix for this problem heres a pic This area off cyan on the turret should be a light gray colour. I think it has something to do with the way the game lights the turrets in game, I've seen this sort of thing in some of the screen shots on this forum, Its a real pain because in some lighting conditions the turrets look a different colour to the rest of the ship.

09-13-06, 10:31 AM	#3
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Wouldn't those be rust spots or something? Maybe water? __________________

09-14-06, 08:42 AM	#7
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,992 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Hi Fubar, The turret textures are another of SH3's many quirks... they are all the same. There are only two textures IIRC... "turele.tga" and "guns.tga." (again if I recall correctly.) __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

09-15-06, 02:48 PM	#12
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Fubar, there is a filter in the gimp program "scatter HVS" which helps to blend in those odd colours. I use it on aircraft skins as it helps with that issue, and also gives the texture a somewhat used, weathered appearance without having to do a lot of extra work on your part. You can adjust it anyway you want from very light to very heavy speckling as it does this at the individual pixel level. But it does take a little getting used to, as you want to tend to use it sparingly, but some of the heavier uses really make things look aged like ships and vehicles. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

09-13-06, 10:30 AM	#2
down and out Sparky Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 150 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	AFAIK the turret textures are in guns.dat

09-13-06, 01:27 PM	#4
SquareSteelBar Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: U-73 Posts: 1,638 Downloads: 632 Uploads: 0	Hi fubar, maybe there's a modded 'turele.tga' in your TNormal\tex folder. If so, move or delete it and look what will happen to the turrets. Greetings, SSB

09-13-06, 01:30 PM	#5
Notewire Soundman Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 143 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Personally, I never get close enough to those turrets to see them that well, and when I do, there is all this flashing and banging and my crew starts yelling, I never can pay attention to the turret paint . . . Regards, Yarre

09-13-06, 02:16 PM	#6
rasmus1896 Sparky Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Eesti Estonia Posts: 153 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	those turrets wat on picture sould not do anything to you cause i think they are german

09-14-06, 01:47 PM	#10
fubar Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 137 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the info guys it apears this problem is something we have to live with. Kpt. Lehmann did you know sergbuto made a mod which allows you to have different turret skin textures for different ships. this is what I'm useing for some ship skins which I'm making.