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Old 08-24-06, 05:18 PM   #1
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Default Israel acquires 2 Dolphin Subs

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060824/...deterring_iran
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Old 08-24-06, 06:51 PM   #2
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Old 08-24-06, 07:23 PM   #3
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060824/...deterring_iran

Extremely cool boat, this type 212/214.
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Old 08-24-06, 08:57 PM   #4
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And it's a much better option for navies that don't want to waste as much or more money to develop what ends as an inferior model.
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Old 08-24-06, 11:41 PM   #5
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Even more so if you don't have to pay full price like everybody else...
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Old 08-25-06, 12:25 AM   #6
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Hey here's a good look see at the Dolphin Class submarine. It's a good stealthy weapons platform and allows Israel to pack a deterrant punch if some of it's neighbors want to sneak in a sucker punch....

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapo...n/Dolphin.html


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I don't understand why the german government decided to finance the deal, paying up to 1/3 of the money (at least according to an article from JP) when usually all other customers do not get this "red carpert" treatment.
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And the first 3 submarines. Israel paid one third the cost of the third unit only.

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Free subs?

I want one!
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I don't understand why the german government decided to finance the deal, paying up to 1/3 of the money (at least according to an article from JP) when usually all other customers do not get this "red carpert" treatment.
Part of the special relation-treatment between Germans and Jews
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I don't understand why the german government decided to finance the deal, paying up to 1/3 of the money (at least according to an article from JP) when usually all other customers do not get this "red carpert" treatment.
Part of the special relation-treatment between Germans and Jews
Best buddys now eh?
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Old 08-25-06, 05:24 AM   #12
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I don't understand why the german government decided to finance the deal, paying up to 1/3 of the money (at least according to an article from JP) when usually all other customers do not get this "red carpert" treatment.
Part of the special relation-treatment between Germans and Jews
Best buddys now eh?
I can easily think of worse.
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longer article in German

http://www.bits.de/public/stichwort/dolphin3.htm
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What I am wondering about is that even over one year ago it already was reported that the deal is perfect. If you remember, back then I complained that Israel was not asking for, but DEMANDING to be delivered these boats (talking of the 212, not the older 209)- and then I was stunned when severral newspaper said that the deal is done.
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