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............this board settled down today.
This is the text of the UN Securiy Council resolution. Thr salient points as I see it are as follows: 1. Quote:
Cease fire upon the approval of the Leboneze and Isreali gov'ts. The exchange of prisoners and captives. The withdrawal of Isreali forces to the blue line established in previous agreements. A de-militarized zone is established. All foriegn militias and all othe non-Leboneze military entities must not operate in Lebonan. An arms embargo is imposed on all nations in respect to arms delivery to any entity within Lebanon without the consent of the Leboneze gov't. The weight of the resolution is for Lebonon to take control of its territory. |
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Even Ahmadinejad has the UN's number, calling their resolutions "meaningless." He's right!
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Still nothing about POW exchanges, but I'm sure that'll be worked into a later agreement.
Other than that, it all sounds good on paper. But I'm not a fan of U.N. led forces.
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Formulation is important, and OP12 is obviously trying hard to allow maximum stretching of what it means and allows, and what not.In other words: those 15000 UNIFIL personnell will be toothless tigers.
It also does nothing to prevent Hezbollah to rearm again, this time with missiles that can be fired from beyond the UNIFIL-controlled zone. OP15 is an unneeded paragraph and will be simply ignored, because it will not be controlled. Ahmadinejad shouldn't say the resolution is meaningless. It perfectly fits his needs. It saves Hezbollah from collapsing, and despite the wording, leaves him the acting freedom to rearm them again. If I were Israel, I would ignore it. But it probably won't. The politicians have messed up the military effort so widely that they may consider the UNIFIL "solution" to be their only exit ticket (remember that they did not want a UN force at any cost in the beginning, but an international combat force, for good reason. I guess no country was willing to give troops for that). ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/ind...rticle&sid=352 http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...289572,00.html http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...icle%2FPrinter http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...icle%2FPrinter Projection: in a couple of years, Israel will need to strike Hezbollah again, and we will be were we are now. Well-done, UN!
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That is one defunct organization. The only good thing about it is that, because it's so worthless, you're better off with a despotic government than a republic or democracy. You take a hit on the science research, but you can keep your pacifists from breeding out of control. |
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looking at this resolution you can see it offers no security. Israel did some serious damage to their infrastructure this resolution just allows their enemy to rebuild. give it 5-7 years and we'll be talking resolutions once again. just wish olmert didn't pussyfoot around, went in with one thing in mind, stay focused, cornered hizbollah like a rat and exterminated it. Last edited by Rockstar; 08-12-06 at 09:38 PM. |
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Olmert is a liberal (Israeli Labor party).
All he's going to do is what perez did: Trade land for worthless agreements until Israel has indifensible borders, gains land in the next war between states, and then return to the negotiating table to give away the land he just acquired.
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How do you negotiate with someone who welcomes and will "Ask for death".
http://www.pmw.org.il/ASK%20FOR%20DEATH.htm |
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From the BBC:
Australian PM: 'Disarm Hezbollah' ![]() John Howard said he had serious concerns about the UN deal Australian Prime Minister John Howard has said Hezbollah must be disarmed if the UN truce in Lebanon is to last. Mr Howard said the UN Security Council resolution to end hostilities was not specific enough and needed a clear authority to disarm Hezbollah. He also said he was undecided about whether Australia would send troops to support a UN peacekeeping mission in the Middle East. He added that any Australian deployment would likely be very limited. "If we were to make a decision to make a commitment, it would be a very small, niche commitment," Mr Howard told reporters in Sydney. "We have other responsibilities." Australia has about 500 troops in Afghanistan and more than 1,300 troops in and around Iraq. Doubts raised Mr Howard said he had serious concerns about whether the UN-brokered truce between Israel and Hezbollah could last. "It looks good on the surface but I am, myself, a little discomfited by the lack of specificities and the language regarding the disarming of Hezbollah," the prime minister said. "Unless there's a clear determination and a clear authority to disarm Hezbollah this isn't going to work. "I have real and serious reservations about the effectiveness and the lasting character of this resolution," Mr Howard added. Limited mandate The ceasefire deal between Israel and Hezbollah is due to come into force at 0500 GMT on Monday. The UN resolution, drafted by the US and France, says Hezbollah must stop attacks on Israel and calls for the disarmament of armed groups in Lebanon. But French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy has said the mandate of the expanded UN force would not include disarming Hezbollah. ----- This Quatsch simply will not work as intended. I am even not sure that with regard to the Iran-war-option that I described two or three days ago (rejecting Iran the possebiliy of opening a second front in case of an attack) they got what they wanted. Olmert completely screw up, obviously having totally unrealistic impressions about what a war is and how it needs to be fought. On, off, on, off - the dynamic momentum of a military campaign simply cannot be switched on and off like a pocket light. This is very desillusioning for me. From all Western militaries, I expected especially the Israelis to have the highest competence for such things, and the smallest illusions. That assessement of mine obviously has been totally wrong. I will never overestimate them again.
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