Grey Wolves, Starforce, and Questions

Lanzfeld · 08-07-06, 02:24 PM

Been gone awhile and I want to dive in again.

Looks like Grey Wolves is the way to go for max realism.

Questions:

1. Does Grey Wolves include the convoy mod that made the ships zig zag and change speed often?

2. Is there a way to install SH-3 without Starforce?

3. What MODS do people put on top of GW?

enaceo · 08-07-06, 02:43 PM

Hello!
I don't really know what exatly you mean about that mod ...ships do zig-zag but I don't know if it's a special mod but it is probably included in GW.
Install withouth starforce...<You don't even get a nice try for that one. The only thing that annoys me more than someone openly flaunting the rules, is someone trying to be cute about it. JCC>.
And about tha last one ,well I don't really use anything else with it (except some custom loading screens ).oh,you should try nvdrifter's realism mod (look in the mods section page 2 i think)but that causes some minor conflicts with GW/sh3cmdr but you can still use it and it is a great mod.

irish1958 · 08-07-06, 03:17 PM

The mod wilth the zigzag is the NYGM Tonnage War 2.01

Lanzfeld · 08-07-06, 06:49 PM

So I need GW and NYGM? Why are they not combined?

Deimos01 · 08-07-06, 07:11 PM

You cannot combine the two. They are incompatible. Many do a dual install. One with GW and another with NYGM so they can play it both ways.

There is a difference between the two mods. NYGM was made with realism being the key approach. GW was made to add some realism aspects and visual/auditor improvements. Try them both to see which one you prefere as they are both great mods in theyre different respects.

zzsteven · 08-07-06, 07:21 PM

Can't speak for the stock GW campaign but with Rubini's Unified campaign the ships/convoys do zig-zag and change speed. The link to the UC campaigns for GW,NYGM-TW and Vanilla:

http://http://www.subsim.com/phpBB_a...ic.php?t=50377

I install it on top of GW.

zz

08-07-06, 08:32 PM

Zig-zagging was first done for the Ops Mod, part of RUB. Grey Wolves convoys DO zig-zag, but they don't change speeds (unless, as zzsteven said, you use the Unified Campaign).

Ducimus · 08-07-06, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanzfeld

Been gone awhile and I want to dive in again.

Looks like Grey Wolves is the way to go for max realism.

Questions:

1. Does Grey Wolves include the convoy mod that made the ships zig zag and change speed often?

2. Is there a way to install SH-3 without Starforce?

3. What MODS do people put on top of GW?

1.) yes.

2.) <...................> forum rules prohibit any discussion <................thats right, thats why this post is censored ..Drebbel....>

3.) Modding on top of GW or any other major mod package is not advisable, the changes are too numberious and many mods touch on the same files in different ways.

KeybdFlyer · 08-08-06, 05:40 PM

Re: Starforce. Out of curiosity I went to the Starforce Website, mainly to find out what the hell it was! Whilst browsing their site, I came across a download link for a small .exe file that removes the SF drivers. Has anybody ever tried that? I'm way too fond of SH3 to risk trying it myself

just in case removing them screws-up the game, plus the fact that SF hasn't caused me any problems anyway. I'd be interested to know though.

GT182 · 08-08-06, 05:55 PM

Keybd, you can run the exe and remove SF. But.... as soon as you put the DVD in and run SHIII, SF is reinstalled.

NeonSamurai · 08-08-06, 05:57 PM

All it is is a driver uninstaller for starforce, you need that driver installed to play starforce protected games, other then what we cant discuss here.

KeybdFlyer · 08-08-06, 06:09 PM

Ahh, right. Ok and thanks, lol (I wish I were young and clever again, being my age REALLY sucks ha ha ha ha)

08-07-06, 02:24 PM	#1
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Grey Wolves, Starforce, and Questions Been gone awhile and I want to dive in again. Looks like Grey Wolves is the way to go for max realism. Questions: 1. Does Grey Wolves include the convoy mod that made the ships zig zag and change speed often? 2. Is there a way to install SH-3 without Starforce? 3. What MODS do people put on top of GW?

08-07-06, 02:43 PM	#2
enaceo XO Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 401 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Hello! I don't really know what exatly you mean about that mod ...ships do zig-zag but I don't know if it's a special mod but it is probably included in GW. Install withouth starforce...<You don't even get a nice try for that one. The only thing that annoys me more than someone openly flaunting the rules, is someone trying to be cute about it. JCC>. And about tha last one ,well I don't really use anything else with it (except some custom loading screens ).oh,you should try nvdrifter's realism mod (look in the mods section page 2 i think)but that causes some minor conflicts with GW/sh3cmdr but you can still use it and it is a great mod. __________________ Came back after a long time ...ahoy mates! Last edited by John Channing; 08-07-06 at 08:14 PM.

08-07-06, 03:17 PM	#3
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	question The mod wilth the zigzag is the NYGM Tonnage War 2.01 __________________ Irish1958

08-08-06, 05:55 PM	#10
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Keybd, you can run the exe and remove SF. But.... as soon as you put the DVD in and run SHIII, SF is reinstalled. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

08-08-06, 05:57 PM	#11
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	All it is is a driver uninstaller for starforce, you need that driver installed to play starforce protected games, other then what we cant discuss here. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

08-07-06, 06:49 PM	#4
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	So I need GW and NYGM? Why are they not combined?

08-07-06, 07:11 PM	#5
Deimos01 Frogman Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: St louis Posts: 304 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	You cannot combine the two. They are incompatible. Many do a dual install. One with GW and another with NYGM so they can play it both ways. There is a difference between the two mods. NYGM was made with realism being the key approach. GW was made to add some realism aspects and visual/auditor improvements. Try them both to see which one you prefere as they are both great mods in theyre different respects.

08-07-06, 07:21 PM	#6
zzsteven Chief Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 319 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Can't speak for the stock GW campaign but with Rubini's Unified campaign the ships/convoys do zig-zag and change speed. The link to the UC campaigns for GW,NYGM-TW and Vanilla: http://http://www.subsim.com/phpBB_a...ic.php?t=50377 I install it on top of GW. zz

08-07-06, 08:32 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Zig-zagging was first done for the Ops Mod, part of RUB. Grey Wolves convoys DO zig-zag, but they don't change speeds (unless, as zzsteven said, you use the Unified Campaign).

08-08-06, 05:40 PM	#9
KeybdFlyer 中国水兵 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 272 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Re: Starforce. Out of curiosity I went to the Starforce Website, mainly to find out what the hell it was! Whilst browsing their site, I came across a download link for a small .exe file that removes the SF drivers. Has anybody ever tried that? I'm way too fond of SH3 to risk trying it myself just in case removing them screws-up the game, plus the fact that SF hasn't caused me any problems anyway. I'd be interested to know though.

08-08-06, 06:09 PM	#12
KeybdFlyer 中国水兵 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 272 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Ahh, right. Ok and thanks, lol (I wish I were young and clever again, being my age REALLY sucks ha ha ha ha)