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Kapitan · 07-15-06, 06:37 PM

mega cruise ships?

RCCL annouces project genesis a 220,000 tonne cruise ship carrying 6,400 people, RCCL also have built Freedom of the seas 160,000 tonne cruise ship and now have a new ship coming down the line.

So do we need these ships why or why not ?

SUBMAN1 · 07-15-06, 06:45 PM

The just generate waste and garbage and excess. Besides, you missed this thread a while back - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=95587

-S

STEED · 07-16-06, 01:51 PM

Ask the experts for an answer.

07-16-06, 03:26 PM

None of my business; I can't afford a cruise.

Torplexed · 07-16-06, 03:53 PM

They're for the wimpy travelers who can't bear the thought of leaving home without taking a movie theater/casino/swimming pool/restaurant/spa/gymnasium along.

Sort of an RV of the sea.

SUBMAN1 · 07-16-06, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torplexed

They're for the wimpy travelers who can't bear the thought of leaving home without taking a movie theater/casino/swimming pool/restaurant/spa/gymnasium along.

Sort of an RV of the sea.

Hahahaha! Perfect analogy!

lesrae · 07-16-06, 04:42 PM

Do we realy need online spellcheckers - hell yeah!

As for cruise ships, I have no problem with them - they move money around the planet, give my rich Auntie somewhere to spend my inheritance and occasionaly come in useful, such as the ones called into service for the 1982 Falklands war.

TteFAboB · 07-16-06, 04:51 PM

I voted yes for the experiment in self-sufficiency.

The bigger it is, the more complex logistics become.

Certainly these help, through trial and error, accumulate part of the knowledge necessary to allow the creation of the first floating city, the main limitation being food.

I want to live in a mobile totally tax-free Island on the sea. Best part of it: security. I'd love shooting pirates with laser-cannons and gattling guns for the fun of it, no need for casinos and movie theaters, more room for food storage. It's going to need to be a mixture of warship and civilian ship, I suppose the military systems would have to be installed at sea, as no port would be allowed to do it.

One problem remains, how to provide low-ping internet for it?

Etienne · 07-17-06, 02:27 AM

The cruise industry is turning into a bubble of NASDAQ proportion, if you ask me. People will move on to another fad, eventually.... And gas prices are going to hurt. Bad.

RCCL already has a few turbine powered ships that are all but mothballed, only cruising during the high season. But then, gas turbine ships were never really a good idea for the private sector, anyway. (Well, ok, excluding some fast ferries)ç

Also, eventually, people like that cruise ship victim site will convince the government to impose flagging limitation on cruise ships coming into the US (Yeah, ok, they'll just fly the passengers to Mexico, but Mexico could join the bandwagon... Then all the other caribean countries. Right. Obviously gonna happen) - Or people will prefer to travel on ships flagged decently. That'll cut a swat of their profit. Huge one.

I think the Cruise industry might be growing faster than it's pot.

joea · 07-17-06, 08:20 AM

I LOVE cruise ships and the old liners. Who here doesn't? Yet I voted no...it's getting out of hand I think for reasons already stated by others. I would love to cruise the Med or the Caribbean on a large, comfortable but basic schooner.

Kruger · 07-17-06, 08:29 AM

I love old liners also. But...there is a balance between size and...romance, if you now what I mean. The bigger a ship is, the less you feel like you're on a sailing vessel. It becomes more of an island, where you just do not perceive the moving.

It;s like...my old car. Yes, it has hes noises, it smells like gasoline...and so on. But you feel like driving something.... Same as boats...the deck plates have to vibrate, and the smell of diesel must be strong when you struggle at maximum speed....

It's the main reason why I love classic subs more than the modern nuclear ones.

And I love old things in general...

STEED · 07-17-06, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

None of my business; I can't afford a cruise.

That makes two of us Steve.

joea · 07-17-06, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

None of my business; I can't afford a cruise.

That makes two of us Steve.

Make that three.

07-17-06, 10:59 PM

ok, get the uboats, lets go sink us some tonnage while nobobies expecting it, 220,000 tonnage would be good for the kapitaens log

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07-15-06, 06:37 PM	#1
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	do we realy need ..... mega cruise ships? RCCL annouces project genesis a 220,000 tonne cruise ship carrying 6,400 people, RCCL also have built Freedom of the seas 160,000 tonne cruise ship and now have a new ship coming down the line. So do we need these ships why or why not ? __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

07-15-06, 06:45 PM	#2
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The just generate waste and garbage and excess. Besides, you missed this thread a while back - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=95587 -S __________________

07-16-06, 01:51 PM	#3
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Ask the experts for an answer. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-16-06, 03:53 PM	#5
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	They're for the wimpy travelers who can't bear the thought of leaving home without taking a movie theater/casino/swimming pool/restaurant/spa/gymnasium along. Sort of an RV of the sea. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

07-16-06, 03:26 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	None of my business; I can't afford a cruise.

07-16-06, 04:42 PM	#7
lesrae Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, UK. Posts: 932 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Do we realy need online spellcheckers - hell yeah! As for cruise ships, I have no problem with them - they move money around the planet, give my rich Auntie somewhere to spend my inheritance and occasionaly come in useful, such as the ones called into service for the 1982 Falklands war. __________________ DOLPHIN 38

07-16-06, 04:51 PM	#8
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I voted yes for the experiment in self-sufficiency. The bigger it is, the more complex logistics become. Certainly these help, through trial and error, accumulate part of the knowledge necessary to allow the creation of the first floating city, the main limitation being food. I want to live in a mobile totally tax-free Island on the sea. Best part of it: security. I'd love shooting pirates with laser-cannons and gattling guns for the fun of it, no need for casinos and movie theaters, more room for food storage. It's going to need to be a mixture of warship and civilian ship, I suppose the military systems would have to be installed at sea, as no port would be allowed to do it. One problem remains, how to provide low-ping internet for it? __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

07-17-06, 02:27 AM	#9
Etienne Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	The cruise industry is turning into a bubble of NASDAQ proportion, if you ask me. People will move on to another fad, eventually.... And gas prices are going to hurt. Bad. RCCL already has a few turbine powered ships that are all but mothballed, only cruising during the high season. But then, gas turbine ships were never really a good idea for the private sector, anyway. (Well, ok, excluding some fast ferries)ç Also, eventually, people like that cruise ship victim site will convince the government to impose flagging limitation on cruise ships coming into the US (Yeah, ok, they'll just fly the passengers to Mexico, but Mexico could join the bandwagon... Then all the other caribean countries. Right. Obviously gonna happen) - Or people will prefer to travel on ships flagged decently. That'll cut a swat of their profit. Huge one. I think the Cruise industry might be growing faster than it's pot. Last edited by Etienne; 07-17-06 at 02:30 AM.

07-17-06, 08:20 AM	#10
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I LOVE cruise ships and the old liners. Who here doesn't? Yet I voted no...it's getting out of hand I think for reasons already stated by others. I would love to cruise the Med or the Caribbean on a large, comfortable but basic schooner.

07-17-06, 08:29 AM	#11
Kruger Commander Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 476 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I love old liners also. But...there is a balance between size and...romance, if you now what I mean. The bigger a ship is, the less you feel like you're on a sailing vessel. It becomes more of an island, where you just do not perceive the moving. It;s like...my old car. Yes, it has hes noises, it smells like gasoline...and so on. But you feel like driving something.... Same as boats...the deck plates have to vibrate, and the smell of diesel must be strong when you struggle at maximum speed.... It's the main reason why I love classic subs more than the modern nuclear ones. And I love old things in general...

07-17-06, 10:59 PM	#14
Rilder Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	ok, get the uboats, lets go sink us some tonnage while nobobies expecting it, 220,000 tonnage would be good for the kapitaens log