Radar antennas bug

jaxa · 06-15-06, 04:45 PM

There are five uboot radar types available in SH3: FuMO29, FuMO30, FuMO61, FuMO64 and FuMO391. All of them, except of FuMO29, should have rotary, rectangular antennas, mounted on the left side of conning towers. Only FuMO29 should has immovable antenna mounted on the face of uboot's conning towers.
In SH3 type VII and type IX all radar antennas are mounted like FuMO29, on the face of conning tower - it's incorrect. Type XXI hasn't this bug, his antennas are mounted correctly like in real life.
Is it possible to fix this bug?

Ducimus · 06-15-06, 05:00 PM

I have been asking this question off and on for the last year. If you find a way to fix it, ill be your number 1 fan.

Sadly, i don't think its within anyones power to fix except ubisoft.

jaxa · 06-15-06, 05:12 PM

It's a pity

May be somebody knows how to do it?

Observer · 06-15-06, 05:14 PM

I was looking into this one, but got distracted. I'll add it back to the list.

jaxa · 06-16-06, 01:16 PM

I'm not a programmer, but could somebody (who knows how to do it) compare game files of type XXI, VII and IX with available radar? Type XXI has radar antennas at good position and types VII/IX have conning towers with place for antennas. May be it's possible to fix it. :hmm:
I think it would be better to remove radar antennas of FuMO30, 61, 64 and 391 from face of conning towers at all, if it's not possible to change their actual position. It looks stupid now.

bigboywooly · 06-16-06, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxa

I'm not a programmer, but could somebody (who knows how to do it) compare game files of type XXI, VII and IX with available radar? Type XXI has radar antennas at good position and types VII/IX have conning towers with place for antennas. May be it's possible to fix it. :hmm:
I think it would be better to remove radar antennas of FuMO30, 61, 64 and 391 from face of conning towers at all, if it's not possible to change their actual position. It looks stupid now.

Hi not sure if this is what you mean

If it is -its a 3d object so its coordinates can be moved to reposition it

jaxa · 06-16-06, 04:00 PM

Where can I download this program from?
I'll try to work with antennas using this stuff, but I'm not familiar to it. Maybe somebody do it better?

bigboywooly · 06-16-06, 04:11 PM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=85085

Thats for pack3d
Doesnt seem to open the type 7 .dat files tho only the type 9
IIRC Der Teddy Bar uses someting that the NYGM team use where he can move stuff around so maybe its worth asking him
The other way is to move the coordinates and keep reloading in museum so you can see the changes

The Y coordinate is the height so you dont need to touch that
the other 2 are side to side and back to front

Will have a go myself too see if can help you out on this
Do you have a pic of where its supposed to be ?

DONT FORGET TO MAKE A BACKUP COPY OF THE .DAT YOU ALTER FIRST

Txema · 06-16-06, 04:24 PM

So the loop antenna is actually there !!!

This antenna is used for Direction Finding, not for radar. However it would be very interesting to raise it (to move it in the vertical direction)... Is it possible to do it???

Txema

bigboywooly · 06-16-06, 04:38 PM

Jaxa
You cant see the antenae in the museum anyway so this would be no help
I expect there is a way but am not experiences enough to do it

Txeme
What do you mean raise it

jaxa · 06-16-06, 04:42 PM

Bigboywooly - like Txema said it's round radio, not radar antenna. Radar antenna is rectangular (except of FuMO29) and should be placed at left side of conning tower, in special recess (you can see it, when you choose type VII/1945 in any single mission, this recess is empty, but antenna is placed at face of conning tower

).

If you want a pic, look at this:
http://www.paolopizzi.com/paolopizzi...eix/typeix.htm

see "active radar" section, first photo is FuMO29 antenna (well implemented in SH3), next two photos are rectangular FuMO30 and Hohentwiel antennas.

bigboywooly · 06-16-06, 04:51 PM

:hmm: Well thats not in the .dat then - there is the loop and the rod antenae in there

The only other posibility is if there is a "node" in the .dat for the radar to go on - basically a predetermined space certain upgrades will go to....something like that lol

IF there is a node its finding which one it is

Your best bet may be with Der Teddy Bar and his all purpose NYGM tool

Sorry

Anvart · 06-16-06, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxa

There are five uboot radar types available in SH3: FuMO29, FuMO30, FuMO61, FuMO64 and FuMO391. All of them, except of FuMO29, should have rotary, rectangular antennas, mounted on the left side of conning towers. Only FuMO29 should has immovable antenna mounted on the face of uboot's conning towers.
In SH3 type VII and type IX all radar antennas are mounted like FuMO29, on the face of conning tower - it's incorrect. Type XXI hasn't this bug, his antennas are mounted correctly like in real life.
Is it possible to fix this bug?

Look with Pack3D.
Work with Hex Editor.

Anvart

bigboywooly · 06-16-06, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvart

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxa

There are five uboot radar types available in SH3: FuMO29, FuMO30, FuMO61, FuMO64 and FuMO391. All of them, except of FuMO29, should have rotary, rectangular antennas, mounted on the left side of conning towers. Only FuMO29 should has immovable antenna mounted on the face of uboot's conning towers.
In SH3 type VII and type IX all radar antennas are mounted like FuMO29, on the face of conning tower - it's incorrect. Type XXI hasn't this bug, his antennas are mounted correctly like in real life.
Is it possible to fix this bug?

Look with Pack3D.
Work with Hex Editor.

Anvart

Is the cfg#R01 for the radar Anvart ?

Anvart · 06-16-06, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvart

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxa

There are five uboot radar types available in SH3: FuMO29, FuMO30, FuMO61, FuMO64 and FuMO391. All of them, except of FuMO29, should have rotary, rectangular antennas, mounted on the left side of conning towers. Only FuMO29 should has immovable antenna mounted on the face of uboot's conning towers.
In SH3 type VII and type IX all radar antennas are mounted like FuMO29, on the face of conning tower - it's incorrect. Type XXI hasn't this bug, his antennas are mounted correctly like in real life.
Is it possible to fix this bug?

Look with Pack3D.
Work with Hex Editor.

Anvart

Is the cfg#R01 for the radar Anvart ?

You read phrases written by red letters?
cfg#R01... - radar 01
cfg#R02... - radar 02
cfg#C01... - radar warning

Anvart

06-15-06, 04:45 PM	#1
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	Radar antennas bug There are five uboot radar types available in SH3: FuMO29, FuMO30, FuMO61, FuMO64 and FuMO391. All of them, except of FuMO29, should have rotary, rectangular antennas, mounted on the left side of conning towers. Only FuMO29 should has immovable antenna mounted on the face of uboot's conning towers. In SH3 type VII and type IX all radar antennas are mounted like FuMO29, on the face of conning tower - it's incorrect. Type XXI hasn't this bug, his antennas are mounted correctly like in real life. Is it possible to fix this bug? __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

06-15-06, 05:12 PM	#3
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	It's a pity May be somebody knows how to do it? __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

06-16-06, 01:16 PM	#5
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	I'm not a programmer, but could somebody (who knows how to do it) compare game files of type XXI, VII and IX with available radar? Type XXI has radar antennas at good position and types VII/IX have conning towers with place for antennas. May be it's possible to fix it. :hmm: I think it would be better to remove radar antennas of FuMO30, 61, 64 and 391 from face of conning towers at all, if it's not possible to change their actual position. It looks stupid now. __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

06-16-06, 04:00 PM	#7
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	Where can I download this program from? I'll try to work with antennas using this stuff, but I'm not familiar to it. Maybe somebody do it better? __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

06-16-06, 04:11 PM	#8
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=85085 Thats for pack3d Doesnt seem to open the type 7 .dat files tho only the type 9 IIRC Der Teddy Bar uses someting that the NYGM team use where he can move stuff around so maybe its worth asking him The other way is to move the coordinates and keep reloading in museum so you can see the changes The Y coordinate is the height so you dont need to touch that the other 2 are side to side and back to front Will have a go myself too see if can help you out on this Do you have a pic of where its supposed to be ? DONT FORGET TO MAKE A BACKUP COPY OF THE .DAT YOU ALTER FIRST __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41 Last edited by bigboywooly; 06-16-06 at 04:36 PM.

06-15-06, 05:00 PM	#2
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I have been asking this question off and on for the last year. If you find a way to fix it, ill be your number 1 fan. Sadly, i don't think its within anyones power to fix except ubisoft.

06-15-06, 05:14 PM	#4
Observer Commander Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 477 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I was looking into this one, but got distracted. I'll add it back to the list.

06-16-06, 04:24 PM	#9
Txema 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Basque Country Posts: 284 Downloads: 365 Uploads: 0	So the loop antenna is actually there !!! This antenna is used for Direction Finding, not for radar. However it would be very interesting to raise it (to move it in the vertical direction)... Is it possible to do it??? Txema

06-16-06, 04:38 PM	#10
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Jaxa You cant see the antenae in the museum anyway so this would be no help I expect there is a way but am not experiences enough to do it Txeme What do you mean raise it __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

06-16-06, 04:42 PM	#11
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	Bigboywooly - like Txema said it's round radio, not radar antenna. Radar antenna is rectangular (except of FuMO29) and should be placed at left side of conning tower, in special recess (you can see it, when you choose type VII/1945 in any single mission, this recess is empty, but antenna is placed at face of conning tower ). If you want a pic, look at this: http://www.paolopizzi.com/paolopizzi...eix/typeix.htm see "active radar" section, first photo is FuMO29 antenna (well implemented in SH3), next two photos are rectangular FuMO30 and Hohentwiel antennas. __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

06-16-06, 04:51 PM	#12
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	:hmm: Well thats not in the .dat then - there is the loop and the rod antenae in there The only other posibility is if there is a "node" in the .dat for the radar to go on - basically a predetermined space certain upgrades will go to....something like that lol IF there is a node its finding which one it is Your best bet may be with Der Teddy Bar and his all purpose NYGM tool Sorry __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41