Sink Nelson sink!

r_wagner · 05-30-06, 06:44 PM

Playing with NYGM so I guess i can blame myself. Came across a task force with a nelson and a revenge in the middle. I lined up and put 4 torps in Nelson's port side but she did not sink ( I should add that the torpedoes were very well spaced and not all in one spot), after an hour or so she started listing a little bit to the side but she didn't slow down at all, kept up with the task force and disappeared from my sight 4 hours later.

Has anyone actually managed to sink a nelson with NYGM? From what I've read battleships do not take that much beating to go down. 3 hits out of 4 really should do the trick. Maybe you just need that critical hit to take her down...

Keelbuster · 05-30-06, 07:30 PM

I sure have. Also - I once sunk a Revenge with a single shot to the bow - no explosion, just buoyance sinking. Her nose went under and she followed. Sounds like you had ****ty luck. It's not reasonable that a Nelson should take 4 torps well spread to one side and laugh it off. NYGM is generally solid, but occasionally it is profoundly unfair. Sometimes you just lose.

Kb

CybrSlydr · 05-30-06, 07:58 PM

With GW 1.1 and NYGM, I took out a Nelson with 2 torps. Both in the same spot, right around the stack in the back.

Another time, it took 5 and a Revenge took 6 to bring down.

Unless you can hit where you want, it's a crapshoot.

(these were all impact detonators appx 4m below the surface)

05-30-06, 08:42 PM

I just got done sinking the HMS Rodney. I snuck into a convoy at night and lined up to put four eels into her starboard side from 90º bow angle. I put two right under the bridge (fuel bunker) and two right under the middle of the three fore turrets (fore ammo bunker). I don't know which one sent her to the bottom as I dove immediately upon firing, but all four hit and then I got the message that she was going down. I think it was the ammo bunker shot that got her since it was about the third impact that sent the message that she was going down and I fired from left to right (stern to fore).

Umfuld · 05-30-06, 09:13 PM

Capital ships can be tough to sink when parked, as well. I've put 7-8 into them and they still don't go down. I try to make sure I spread them out more now, but on open water at 20+ knots they tend to go to the bottom a lot easier.

Ula Jolly · 05-31-06, 12:35 AM

Battleships are so fun to hunt, it's hilarious. Not easy, by any means, but fun!
The other day I came upon a task force the FIRST day of that new campaign, containing some five DDs and two Revenge. A shot to the starboard rear from around 70 degrees left the BB listing. She dropped down to 14 knots, the rest continued at 21. After that it was just a matter of patience; she was followed, and once turning a bit, three more torps hit her, but to little effect. The fifth struck her after she had gone completely limp, but it took so long for her to sink I thought she would NEVER do. My fault for not sending any magnetic ones her way, but...

CybrSlydr · 05-31-06, 12:45 AM

Talk about luck!

Started a new career in 1944 with SH3Cmdr and 11th Flotte just so I could try the XXI for once (never used it before... and I've owned the game since day one!).

Well, I was travelling west and kept getting these 'radar detected!'. I ignored them and continued to sail on the surface, making sure my AA guns were manned.

Well, lo and behold, a shat-ton of DDs show up. I'm like, great.

So, I look through my UZO to check bearings and - SHIPS AHOY!!!

Illustrious Fleet Carrier, bearing 347 degrees!

I immediately go to periscope depth, ahead full (they already saw me so I didn't care), set all 6 for impact det (using all Type III Electrics), closed to 3700+m and ripped them all off in rapid succession.

Damned if all 6 didn't hit and detonate.

Turns out I only needed about 3 of them as she erupted in spectacular fashion.

Ironically, I got away quite easily...

VipertheSniper · 05-31-06, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CybrSlydr

Talk about luck!

Started a new career in 1944 with SH3Cmdr and 11th Flotte just so I could try the XXI for once (never used it before... and I've owned the game since day one!).

Well, I was travelling west and kept getting these 'radar detected!'. I ignored them and continued to sail on the surface, making sure my AA guns were manned.

Well, lo and behold, a shat-ton of DDs show up. I'm like, great.

So, I look through my UZO to check bearings and - SHIPS AHOY!!!

Illustrious Fleet Carrier, bearing 347 degrees!

I immediately go to periscope depth, ahead full (they already saw me so I didn't care), set all 6 for impact det (using all Type III Electrics), closed to 3700+m and ripped them all off in rapid succession.

Damned if all 6 didn't hit and detonate.

Turns out I only needed about 3 of them as she erupted in spectacular fashion.

Ironically, I got away quite easily...

With the XXI, I think that's the easiest thing

Der Eisen-Wal · 05-31-06, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CybrSlydr

Talk about luck!

Started a new career in 1944 with SH3Cmdr and 11th Flotte just so I could try the XXI for once (never used it before... and I've owned the game since day one!).

Well, I was travelling west and kept getting these 'radar detected!'. I ignored them and continued to sail on the surface, making sure my AA guns were manned.

Well, lo and behold, a shat-ton of DDs show up. I'm like, great.

So, I look through my UZO to check bearings and - SHIPS AHOY!!!

Illustrious Fleet Carrier, bearing 347 degrees!

I immediately go to periscope depth, ahead full (they already saw me so I didn't care), set all 6 for impact det (using all Type III Electrics), closed to 3700+m and ripped them all off in rapid succession.

Damned if all 6 didn't hit and detonate.

Turns out I only needed about 3 of them as she erupted in spectacular fashion.

Ironically, I got away quite easily...

quite a feat mate! to be detected and hten engage a carrier? however its not a chance you get everyday so i wooulda taken the risk too.. but solid stuff

andy_311 · 05-31-06, 06:30 PM

I can't way it up in a career if I see a "Nelson Class BB" I tend to aim for the 3rd Turret or the bridge with a 2 fish salvo and it has not failed me yet she has gone down.
Now In the single mission "Bismark" a salvo of 4 fish fired at a wide spread first hits her bow 2nd hits her below the first turrert the 3rd shot hits her just below the second turret and then the 4th 3 turret but that just slowed her down.
Then I did the same mission again and this time she was listing for some reason (never even fired a shot) I thought she was goin down all on her own still fire a full spread all hit fish hit her deck/super structure and capsized in 20 secs flat I just can't weigh it up.

05-30-06, 06:44 PM	#1
r_wagner Mate Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 52 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sink Nelson sink! Playing with NYGM so I guess i can blame myself. Came across a task force with a nelson and a revenge in the middle. I lined up and put 4 torps in Nelson's port side but she did not sink ( I should add that the torpedoes were very well spaced and not all in one spot), after an hour or so she started listing a little bit to the side but she didn't slow down at all, kept up with the task force and disappeared from my sight 4 hours later. Has anyone actually managed to sink a nelson with NYGM? From what I've read battleships do not take that much beating to go down. 3 hits out of 4 really should do the trick. Maybe you just need that critical hit to take her down...

05-30-06, 07:30 PM	#2
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I sure have. Also - I once sunk a Revenge with a single shot to the bow - no explosion, just buoyance sinking. Her nose went under and she followed. Sounds like you had ****ty luck. It's not reasonable that a Nelson should take 4 torps well spread to one side and laugh it off. NYGM is generally solid, but occasionally it is profoundly unfair. Sometimes you just lose. Kb __________________

05-30-06, 09:13 PM	#5
Umfuld Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Posts: 503 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Capital ships can be tough to sink when parked, as well. I've put 7-8 into them and they still don't go down. I try to make sure I spread them out more now, but on open water at 20+ knots they tend to go to the bottom a lot easier. __________________ Type VIIB = The Truth

05-31-06, 12:35 AM	#6
Ula Jolly Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 567 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Battleships are so fun to hunt, it's hilarious. Not easy, by any means, but fun! The other day I came upon a task force the FIRST day of that new campaign, containing some five DDs and two Revenge. A shot to the starboard rear from around 70 degrees left the BB listing. She dropped down to 14 knots, the rest continued at 21. After that it was just a matter of patience; she was followed, and once turning a bit, three more torps hit her, but to little effect. The fifth struck her after she had gone completely limp, but it took so long for her to sink I thought she would NEVER do. My fault for not sending any magnetic ones her way, but... __________________ I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!

05-30-06, 07:58 PM	#3
CybrSlydr Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Beverly, OH Posts: 263 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	With GW 1.1 and NYGM, I took out a Nelson with 2 torps. Both in the same spot, right around the stack in the back. Another time, it took 5 and a Revenge took 6 to bring down. Unless you can hit where you want, it's a crapshoot. (these were all impact detonators appx 4m below the surface)

05-30-06, 08:42 PM	#4
Fab Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I just got done sinking the HMS Rodney. I snuck into a convoy at night and lined up to put four eels into her starboard side from 90º bow angle. I put two right under the bridge (fuel bunker) and two right under the middle of the three fore turrets (fore ammo bunker). I don't know which one sent her to the bottom as I dove immediately upon firing, but all four hit and then I got the message that she was going down. I think it was the ammo bunker shot that got her since it was about the third impact that sent the message that she was going down and I fired from left to right (stern to fore).

05-31-06, 12:45 AM	#7
CybrSlydr Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Beverly, OH Posts: 263 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Talk about luck! Started a new career in 1944 with SH3Cmdr and 11th Flotte just so I could try the XXI for once (never used it before... and I've owned the game since day one!). Well, I was travelling west and kept getting these 'radar detected!'. I ignored them and continued to sail on the surface, making sure my AA guns were manned. Well, lo and behold, a shat-ton of DDs show up. I'm like, great. So, I look through my UZO to check bearings and - SHIPS AHOY!!! Illustrious Fleet Carrier, bearing 347 degrees! I immediately go to periscope depth, ahead full (they already saw me so I didn't care), set all 6 for impact det (using all Type III Electrics), closed to 3700+m and ripped them all off in rapid succession. Damned if all 6 didn't hit and detonate. Turns out I only needed about 3 of them as she erupted in spectacular fashion. Ironically, I got away quite easily...

05-31-06, 06:30 PM	#10
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	I can't way it up in a career if I see a "Nelson Class BB" I tend to aim for the 3rd Turret or the bridge with a 2 fish salvo and it has not failed me yet she has gone down. Now In the single mission "Bismark" a salvo of 4 fish fired at a wide spread first hits her bow 2nd hits her below the first turrert the 3rd shot hits her just below the second turret and then the 4th 3 turret but that just slowed her down. Then I did the same mission again and this time she was listing for some reason (never even fired a shot) I thought she was goin down all on her own still fire a full spread all hit fish hit her deck/super structure and capsized in 20 secs flat I just can't weigh it up.