Grey Wolves vs NYGM Tonnage mod...

Christian Knudsen · 03-23-06, 10:59 AM

I run an old system (below specs for SH3), and wonder what the pros and cons of these two mods are. I don't really care too much about graphics enhancements at all (they will just slow me down more, especially if too high-res), but I want to get the best campaign/gameplay experience possible. I also have very limited time for play, and so I want to do a minimum of mod trialling, as it were.

In other words, which one should I use, and why?

U-Bones · 03-23-06, 11:57 AM

I would have to say GW, primarily because it also includes the NYGM Damage system. The rest is very well thought out and implemented.

If you run GW with the included (but not default) Stock Sea Floor and No Mines mods it should not really be too much harder on your PC. Even if you have to strip out a few more things, I think it is the way to go. It is what the initial release *should* have been - everything up to now has been beta

Stiebler · 03-23-06, 12:21 PM

Christian Knudsen said:

Quote:

I run an old system (below specs for SH3), and wonder what the pros and cons of these two mods are. I don't really care too much about graphics enhancements at all (they will just slow me down more, especially if too high-res), but I want to get the best campaign/gameplay experience possible. I also have very limited time for play, and so I want to do a minimum of mod trialling, as it were.

In other words, which one should I use, and why?

Without doubt, with a lower spec computer, you should run NYGM. This is engineered: a) to have the best new ideas; and b) to be computer-friendly. I know, because I contribute to (a) and have always insisted on (b).

I could also mention that NYGM is aimed at greater realism, and Grey Wolves at better graphics, but that is a more personal choice.

You might also like to consider your modem speed - NYGM is a much smaller down-load.

Stiebler.

Der Teddy Bar · 03-23-06, 03:50 PM

These Previous NYGM threads, in addition to the NYGM Tonnage War sticky thread, have excellent info on what to expect from NYGM...

Not Your Grand Mothers Ship Damage Mod Beta 0.1.36
http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...highlight=nygm

NYGM Aircraft Damage Mod Beta Ver 0.06
http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...highlight=nygm

NYGM Aircraft Damage Mod addresses Laser Guided AA
http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...highlight=nygm

Not Your Grand Mothers Crew Management Mod 1.1
http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...highlight=nygm

Not Your Grand Mothers RUB Campaign Mod Ver 1.1
http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...highlight=nygm

JCWolf · 03-23-06, 04:29 PM

I think both are very good, but ....

Can you Imagine what will hapend if they joyne Forces and blow up the community and all worl SHIII forums with a Both tems creation?

That Mi friends will be even more blasting that a triple Torpedo impact in a Large Tanker!

Georg_Unterberg · 03-23-06, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcwolf

I think both are very good, but ....

Can you Imagine what will hapend if they joyne Forces and blow up the community and all worl SHIII forums with a Both tems creation?

That Mi friends will be even more blasting that a triple Torpedo impact in a Large Tanker!

Yeah, that's the way to go! We already have the NYGM ship damage in GW, thanks to Teddy Bar! That's the most important mod for me as it enhances gameplay a LOT

I also would like to see the NYGM crew management in GW. This is absolutely the best and immersive management you can have. It's well designed (I think by Observer), it has a working 6/12h shift, the crew configs are redesigned & balanced to let a boat run with 2 shifts without problem. And bad weather and morale have influences! So you have to care for your men!
Both GW fatigue's - 8h or 24h - can't hold up to this system.

Hopefully both teams decide to merge both mods in one !

JScones · 03-23-06, 07:00 PM

For me, GW + NYGM TW would be complete. Wouldn't want anything else (well, except perhaps that SH3Cmdr thingy).

CCIP · 03-23-06, 07:10 PM

I think there's a good possibility of NYGM eventually being super-imposed onto GWs huge mod collection. There's some obvious changes involved in that, but it's not at all impossible. As it should be with NYGM though, a good while thorough work and testing will precede any release.

And, um, I pledge to work for merging the two as soon as I break out of my "work trap" myself!

(let's just say serious modding isn't something I'd be heavily working with when I already sleep twice less than I should

)

gouldjg · 03-23-06, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones

For me, GW + NYGM TW would be complete. Wouldn't want anything else (well, except perhaps that SH3Cmdr thingy).

I would probably be the same as you apart from what hemisent is working on also.

Yep

, I think once NYGM, GW and Hemisents thermal layers are fully integrated into one mod, I would quite happily start and finnish a career.

Till then it is just watch and hope that one does not set any major conflict with the other.

XXi · 03-23-06, 09:24 PM

GW is much beter when it comes to the graphic stuff, and prevaills in the terms of sounds. It has NYGM damage implemented, a very essential part of the Tonnage Mod. So ?
GW as it is slows the system down greatly, with some no mines corrections and better bottom it`s better but still can do quite a few tricks. In addition, load times for Tonnage Mod and GW make huge difference.

Couldn`t check campaign accuracy so far, only the fact GW has MUCH more messages so if you like a radiotraffic it`s better.

Well... for me, the best so far would be Tonnage Mod with sounds, graphics, radio messages from GW. Can`t say much about other aspects of the game really....

JCWolf · 03-24-06, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones

For me, GW + NYGM TW would be complete. Wouldn't want anything else (well, except perhaps that SH3Cmdr thingy).

Absolutlly!

You just read mi thoughts.

CCIP wrote:

"And, um, I pledge to work for merging the two as soon as I break out of my "work trap" myself! "

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I believe i'm on a trap like that myself!

Rubini · 03-24-06, 09:56 AM

Hi guys,

Our dream will be a reality soon. The Unified Campaign (NYGM campaign+GW campaign) is going well, it's nearly complete. After that merge the two mods will be easy and could be released as an optional feature. I guess that in more 2 weeks, this is my bet!

Rubini.

XXi · 03-24-06, 10:06 AM

GREAT news ! Awesome !

Just don`t forget to put in some files for low-end computers

don`t want to see my SH III frozen in all except inside stations...

Montbrun · 03-24-06, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

Hi guys,

Our dream will be a reality soon. The Unified Campaign (NYGM campaign+GW campaign) is going well, it's nearly complete. After that merge the two mods will be easy and could be released as an optional feature. I guess that in more 2 weeks, this is my bet!

Rubini.

That is great news!

I have one request. Please make it either fully compatible with, or integrated with SH3 Commander (ie right now - the random tonnage "issue.")

PS: and include your awesome crew MOD, Rubini!

VonHelsching · 03-24-06, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

Hi guys,

Our dream will be a reality soon. The Unified Campaign (NYGM campaign+GW campaign) is going well, it's nearly complete. After that merge the two mods will be easy and could be released as an optional feature. I guess that in more 2 weeks, this is my bet!

Rubini.

Hello Rubini,

Will this campaign be released seperately on the next version of HT?

03-23-06, 10:59 AM	#1
Christian Knudsen Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 11 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Grey Wolves vs NYGM Tonnage mod... I run an old system (below specs for SH3), and wonder what the pros and cons of these two mods are. I don't really care too much about graphics enhancements at all (they will just slow me down more, especially if too high-res), but I want to get the best campaign/gameplay experience possible. I also have very limited time for play, and so I want to do a minimum of mod trialling, as it were. In other words, which one should I use, and why?

03-23-06, 04:29 PM	#5
JCWolf Admiral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain , Crossing Gibraltar! Posts: 2,292 Downloads: 202 Uploads: 1	I think both are very good, but .... Can you Imagine what will hapend if they joyne Forces and blow up the community and all worl SHIII forums with a Both tems creation? That Mi friends will be even more blasting that a triple Torpedo impact in a Large Tanker! __________________ JCWolf Mediafire SHIII Page User name : JCWolf Password : stefre@jcm

03-23-06, 07:10 PM	#8
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I think there's a good possibility of NYGM eventually being super-imposed onto GWs huge mod collection. There's some obvious changes involved in that, but it's not at all impossible. As it should be with NYGM though, a good while thorough work and testing will precede any release. And, um, I pledge to work for merging the two as soon as I break out of my "work trap" myself! (let's just say serious modding isn't something I'd be heavily working with when I already sleep twice less than I should ) __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-23-06, 09:24 PM	#10
XXi Ensign Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Warsaw, Poland / Nagoya, Japan Posts: 227 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	GW is much beter when it comes to the graphic stuff, and prevaills in the terms of sounds. It has NYGM damage implemented, a very essential part of the Tonnage Mod. So ? GW as it is slows the system down greatly, with some no mines corrections and better bottom it`s better but still can do quite a few tricks. In addition, load times for Tonnage Mod and GW make huge difference. Couldn`t check campaign accuracy so far, only the fact GW has MUCH more messages so if you like a radiotraffic it`s better. Well... for me, the best so far would be Tonnage Mod with sounds, graphics, radio messages from GW. Can`t say much about other aspects of the game really.... __________________ lasciate ogni speranza... voi, chi entrate

03-24-06, 10:06 AM	#13
XXi Ensign Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Warsaw, Poland / Nagoya, Japan Posts: 227 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	GREAT news ! Awesome ! Just don`t forget to put in some files for low-end computers don`t want to see my SH III frozen in all except inside stations... __________________ lasciate ogni speranza... voi, chi entrate

03-23-06, 11:57 AM	#2
U-Bones Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Treading Water Posts: 847 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	I would have to say GW, primarily because it also includes the NYGM Damage system. The rest is very well thought out and implemented. If you run GW with the included (but not default) Stock Sea Floor and No Mines mods it should not really be too much harder on your PC. Even if you have to strip out a few more things, I think it is the way to go. It is what the initial release should have been - everything up to now has been beta

03-23-06, 03:50 PM	#4
Der Teddy Bar Blade Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,388 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	These Previous NYGM threads, in addition to the NYGM Tonnage War sticky thread, have excellent info on what to expect from NYGM... Not Your Grand Mothers Ship Damage Mod Beta 0.1.36 http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...highlight=nygm NYGM Aircraft Damage Mod Beta Ver 0.06 http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...highlight=nygm NYGM Aircraft Damage Mod addresses Laser Guided AA http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...highlight=nygm Not Your Grand Mothers Crew Management Mod 1.1 http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...highlight=nygm Not Your Grand Mothers RUB Campaign Mod Ver 1.1 http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopi...highlight=nygm

03-23-06, 07:00 PM	#7
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	For me, GW + NYGM TW would be complete. Wouldn't want anything else (well, except perhaps that SH3Cmdr thingy).

03-24-06, 09:56 AM	#12
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Hi guys, Our dream will be a reality soon. The Unified Campaign (NYGM campaign+GW campaign) is going well, it's nearly complete. After that merge the two mods will be easy and could be released as an optional feature. I guess that in more 2 weeks, this is my bet! Rubini.