Multiplayer when and with what/who

BigBadVuk · 02-22-06, 08:10 AM

Im quite new in multiplayer world(tx to my bad broadband net,but that is fixed now) so im asking u...Im so eager to join the fleet and join u guys(and girls if any) but I didnt installed gameSpy(my antivirsu software was against that) so im asking u ..Can u give me some IPs for servers where i can find more ppl to fight with/or against...Or can u tell me where i can download some tools wich u use to connect...TX in advance...

P.S.
Im nott n00b in naval-warfare im just noob with networks...

donw · 02-22-06, 09:37 AM

The only advice I can give you....is regarding the "Seawolves" Fleet...

They use ICQ to communicate, and once you have added ALL the members to your ICQ contact list...(a very time consuming process)..it has always worked very well to find others ready to play.

ICQ allows you to open a multi-window'd chat with several people at the same time, which allows all hands to make agreements to game setup options, finding the fastest host and IP address...etc etc...prior to game start

Nexus7 · 02-24-06, 12:41 PM

When I started playing sub simulators with Sub Command i started playing with people on MPlayer witch doesn't exist anymore, but you can compare it to gamespy. Problem... there where not so many people to play with, and problem two, they were not very skilled.

Then I joined a virtual fleet and all those problems vanished

Fish · 02-24-06, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBadVuk

Im quite new in multiplayer world(tx to my bad broadband net,but that is fixed now) so im asking u...Im so eager to join the fleet and join u guys(and girls if any) but I didnt installed gameSpy(my antivirsu software was against that) so im asking u ..Can u give me some IPs for servers where i can find more ppl to fight with/or against...Or can u tell me where i can download some tools wich u use to connect...TX in advance...

P.S.
Im nott n00b in naval-warfare im just noob with networks...

Look at this side for multiplayer.

XabbaRus · 02-24-06, 03:35 PM

I still think that the MP aspect would grow if fleets were to use Gamespy to meet and setup games. You can do all the things you can when meeting on ICQ or mIRC, ie chat before you dive, chat after you dive you to discuss how it went....

Also if you are having a fleet only game you can lock the room..
Since you can have multiple rooms you could have a training room.

Think about it someone from the fleet could say "I'll be in Gamespy between X time and Y time, anyone want to train just drop in.

No need for checking your IP address to tell someone else etc...

Also if you configure your AV and Firewall it shouldn't be a problem with Gamespy.

freddo · 02-24-06, 05:04 PM

There are a number of fleets around. I've joined Global Naval Task Force a new Fleet.

Check them out here: http://www.globalnavalstrikeforce.com/main.htm

Kapitan · 02-25-06, 02:20 AM

yup www.seawolves.org also the VMC www.vmcnavy.net

Fandango · 02-25-06, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

I still think that the MP aspect would grow if fleets were to use Gamespy to meet and setup games...

I agree with you Xabba that Gamespy (or Hyperlobby) would be more crowded with the contribution of Virtual Fleets but the pointing system these Virtual Fleets usually have (system through which you advance in "career") is the reason they end up being exclusive. Of course, they all say that a member can do whatever he/she wants but if you set up a pointing system which is valid only if you play in fleet matches between members, your idea is to have something closed. In my opinion, they could extended the pointing systems to the sinking of no members in public matches. Guys, I see nothing wrong in that...

Either Gamespy or Hyperlobby are fine for meeting up people but for the reasons above, there you'll only find people who don't want to join a virtual fleet like myself. Well, there is a virtual fleet that joins on Hyperlobby and whose members play with other people (DK something...I apologize to the members of this Fleet for not remembering the full name!!!) but this is the only exception. Well, I played with Furia, Molon and Fish and other members of virtual fleets recently but this came through Commanders Academy & Dive Center...

Bellman · 02-25-06, 10:37 AM

Maybe CADC will grow into a fleet of freelancers. There's a lot of talent hanging out there.

The current 'war' proves that guys can get it done outside the restrictions and formalities of structured Fleets.

The skeletons there and you can hang a lot on the bones of the likes of Molon, OneShot, Fish, JoGary, Furia
and MaHuJa (Only to mention some.)

MaHuJa · 02-25-06, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fandango

...the pointing system these Virtual Fleets usually have (system through which you advance in "career") is the reason they end up being exclusive.

...they could extended the pointing systems to the sinking of no members in public matches. Guys, I see nothing wrong in that...

I agree fully with you - but also, that I know some of them require the mission logs from all players as part of the scoring players. Non-members aren't likely to bother, don't you think? Also, in the case of a cheater, it's easier to remove him from a closed system than an open one.

A closed group not playing anyone else will end up stagnating. Someone once suggested real navies are keeping an eye on what we're doing in the sim community, for just this sort of reason. If it's true or not, who knows.

OneShot · 02-25-06, 11:06 AM

To pick up the comment from Bellman ...

Given that we do "regular" games (once a week) thanks to Furia, and having the GDT as a testbed for full blown tournaments it is certainly possible to have a group of players available for playing. Given the MP settings for DW (no dedicated server) all you need to do is use the available facilities wisely, most notably the calendar.

As the past has proven it is entirely possible to get 8+ people together on a given date with some advance warning and that is certainly needed as a DW match usually takes around 2 hours.

If the interest is there I could integrate a system similar to the one used at OrionWarrior ( http://www.orionwarrior.com/html/mod...cs&op=complete ) in the CADC for people to log their stats. Same open system, just for your own entertainment and to compare yourself to others - no ranks, position or whatever dependant on that. But take note if the interest is there ... as the page over at OW clearly shows the interest definitly lacked.

Bellman · 02-25-06, 11:24 AM

The structure is in place and growing. :|\
I guess a lot guys are cavalier about cumulative scoring as it smacks of Fleet competitiveness .

Event scoring is another thing.

Fandango · 02-25-06, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MaHuJa

I agree fully with you - but also, that I know some of them require the mission logs from all players as part of the scoring players. Non-members aren't likely to bother, don't you think? Also, in the case of a cheater, it's easier to remove him from a closed system than an open one.

You are correct Mahuja but probably there's a way round it... :hmm:

I've participated to CADC matches for the past three weekends...very cool!. The CADC does not require any "serious" commitment and as I understood it (Oneshot, please correct it if I'm wrong), you just post your availability there and people then "reserve" the available platforms. Even if there are only three platforms available, people may consider joining multistation on one of it. I personally team up with Goldorak...whatever platform we choose. I can say that it's been a long time since I last played DW on a platform alone. I think multistation should be used more...but this is another issue...

OneShot · 02-25-06, 01:25 PM

You are right

Thats what the calendar is for ... post your own availability or set up a day/time for a match, maybe even with your selfmade map (tho thats certainly not required). Past has proven that unless you choose some very weird times you usually get a lot of people wanting to jump in and play.

XabbaRus · 02-25-06, 01:42 PM

I don't see how the pointing system can be a barrier to fleets using Gamespy.

You can create a room on gamespy for which you need a password to get in and these fleets could set up for stat matches where people advance or not as the case maybe. The fact that they are seen on Gamespy and that they could also have open rooms, a sort of "Come and have a go is you think you're hard enough type thing."

02-22-06, 08:10 AM	#1
BigBadVuk Ensign Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belgrade,Serbia Posts: 222 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Multiplayer when and with what/who Im quite new in multiplayer world(tx to my bad broadband net,but that is fixed now) so im asking u...Im so eager to join the fleet and join u guys(and girls if any) but I didnt installed gameSpy(my antivirsu software was against that) so im asking u ..Can u give me some IPs for servers where i can find more ppl to fight with/or against...Or can u tell me where i can download some tools wich u use to connect...TX in advance... P.S. Im nott n00b in naval-warfare im just noob with networks... __________________ Any ship can submerge.. Only submarine can surface!

02-24-06, 03:35 PM	#5
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I still think that the MP aspect would grow if fleets were to use Gamespy to meet and setup games. You can do all the things you can when meeting on ICQ or mIRC, ie chat before you dive, chat after you dive you to discuss how it went.... Also if you are having a fleet only game you can lock the room.. Since you can have multiple rooms you could have a training room. Think about it someone from the fleet could say "I'll be in Gamespy between X time and Y time, anyone want to train just drop in. No need for checking your IP address to tell someone else etc... Also if you configure your AV and Firewall it shouldn't be a problem with Gamespy. __________________

02-24-06, 05:04 PM	#6
freddo Watch Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 15 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There are a number of fleets around. I've joined Global Naval Task Force a new Fleet. Check them out here: http://www.globalnavalstrikeforce.com/main.htm __________________ LTJG Frogman TF-74 Global Naval Strike Force

02-25-06, 02:20 AM	#7
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	yup www.seawolves.org also the VMC www.vmcnavy.net __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

02-25-06, 10:37 AM	#9
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Maybe CADC will grow into a fleet of freelancers. There's a lot of talent hanging out there. The current 'war' proves that guys can get it done outside the restrictions and formalities of structured Fleets. The skeletons there and you can hang a lot on the bones of the likes of Molon, OneShot, Fish, JoGary, Furia and MaHuJa (Only to mention some.) __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

02-22-06, 09:37 AM	#2
donw Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 386 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	The only advice I can give you....is regarding the "Seawolves" Fleet... They use ICQ to communicate, and once you have added ALL the members to your ICQ contact list...(a very time consuming process)..it has always worked very well to find others ready to play. ICQ allows you to open a multi-window'd chat with several people at the same time, which allows all hands to make agreements to game setup options, finding the fastest host and IP address...etc etc...prior to game start

02-24-06, 12:41 PM	#3
Nexus7 Commander Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 469 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	When I started playing sub simulators with Sub Command i started playing with people on MPlayer witch doesn't exist anymore, but you can compare it to gamespy. Problem... there where not so many people to play with, and problem two, they were not very skilled. Then I joined a virtual fleet and all those problems vanished

02-25-06, 11:06 AM	#11
OneShot Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 956 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	To pick up the comment from Bellman ... Given that we do "regular" games (once a week) thanks to Furia, and having the GDT as a testbed for full blown tournaments it is certainly possible to have a group of players available for playing. Given the MP settings for DW (no dedicated server) all you need to do is use the available facilities wisely, most notably the calendar. As the past has proven it is entirely possible to get 8+ people together on a given date with some advance warning and that is certainly needed as a DW match usually takes around 2 hours. If the interest is there I could integrate a system similar to the one used at OrionWarrior ( http://www.orionwarrior.com/html/mod...cs&op=complete ) in the CADC for people to log their stats. Same open system, just for your own entertainment and to compare yourself to others - no ranks, position or whatever dependant on that. But take note if the interest is there ... as the page over at OW clearly shows the interest definitly lacked. __________________ All the things you always wanted to know about Dangerous Waters but never dared to ask!

02-25-06, 11:24 AM	#12
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	The structure is in place and growing. :\|\ I guess a lot guys are cavalier about cumulative scoring as it smacks of Fleet competitiveness . Event scoring is another thing. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

02-25-06, 01:25 PM	#14
OneShot Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 956 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	You are right Thats what the calendar is for ... post your own availability or set up a day/time for a match, maybe even with your selfmade map (tho thats certainly not required). Past has proven that unless you choose some very weird times you usually get a lot of people wanting to jump in and play. __________________ All the things you always wanted to know about Dangerous Waters but never dared to ask!

02-25-06, 01:42 PM	#15
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I don't see how the pointing system can be a barrier to fleets using Gamespy. You can create a room on gamespy for which you need a password to get in and these fleets could set up for stat matches where people advance or not as the case maybe. The fact that they are seen on Gamespy and that they could also have open rooms, a sort of "Come and have a go is you think you're hard enough type thing." __________________