The EU and Europe's cultural identity

Skybird · 02-10-06, 06:45 AM

Quote: "...radical secularists that want to eradicate all remnants of traditional Christian culture from post-Christian Europe..." :

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/794

My interest in this is not about abortion yes or no, nor is it any interest or sympathy for the Catholic church. How Brussel denies major variables that have formed europe'S cultural identity and tries to rule people that they shall not feel according to these identities - this is what raises my interest.

The last paragraph of the article is just a funny addon: "Meanwhile in Italy today a court decided, after a protracted legal battle, that Father Enrico Righi, a Catholic priest, will not be forced to prove Christâ€™s historical existence in court."

Das ist doch toll!

Sixpack · 02-10-06, 07:04 AM

Maybe Europe deserves to go down

:hmm:

ps for those who dont like links very much the synopsis:

Two clashes of civilization are currently taking place in Europe. Freedom-loving people having to fight on two fronts. One involves the radical segment of the immigrant Muslim population that opposes basic Western values such as freedom of speech and that is intent on imposing Islamic taboos (such as the mere fact of depicting their prophet Muhammad) on the non-Islamic population. The other involves radical secularists that want to eradicate all remnants of traditional Christian culture from post-Christian Europe by restricting the right to conscientious objection on the part of religious people.

The Avon Lady · 02-10-06, 07:09 AM

Europe should be renamed the Tower of Babel II.

STEED · 02-10-06, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Europe should be renamed the Tower of Babel II.

And what of the real tower I do believe it's being rebuilt as predicted?

The Avon Lady · 02-10-06, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Europe should be renamed the Tower of Babel II.

And what of the real tower I do believe it's being rebuilt as predicted?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

STEED · 02-10-06, 08:37 AM

The whole stinking world is going down wake up people it's the end times.

Polak · 02-10-06, 09:19 AM

I agree with STEED.
The whole world is going down, europe is being destroyed from the inside and that is because of the stinking lefftwing governments...

I hate the EU... I'm staring to hate everything... It's is really hard to stay tolerant now days..
We have a saying in Polish: "Caly swiat leci na pysk" It means the whole world is falling on it's face...

/ Sebastian Kowalski

Bertgang · 02-10-06, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Polak

... europe is being destroyed from the inside and that is because of the stinking lewftwing governments...

Mr. Berlusconi and his allied are excellent destroyers too, even not being exactly leftwing. Each of us has his peculiar problem.

STEED · 02-10-06, 10:13 AM

The EU Parliament is a stinking pit of corruption working for evil and thatâ€™s a fact they make me sick they think they got all the answers well then what about the bloody mess we are in.

August · 02-10-06, 10:23 AM

Depressing young people is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Really, if all you can do is whine about how bad things are maybe your civilization does indeed deserve to fall.

I'm middle aged. This gives me the ability to see things with a bit more perspective. Sure, the world has it's problems, but then again it's ALWAYS had it's problems. Compared to what our ancestors had to deal with we have it very easy indeed.

So rather than sit around and complain about it, start doing whatever you can to improve the situation. Remember the old cliche: "If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem".

STEED · 02-10-06, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by August

your civilization does indeed deserve to fall.

The whole stinking planet will fall in to total corruption no escape for anyone bloody wake up. You are living in the end times.

Sixpack · 02-10-06, 11:01 AM

Well, I am closer now to 40 than 35 yet not depressed

Europe is utterly confused and to a great extent managed by bureaucratic hypocritical spineless morons but I am not confused and depressed.

It's just that we can not deal with the vast majority of treehuggers who are basically f*cking up Europe.

Action ? Whattayamean ?! In Europe that means being called a neo nazi. End of story.

Gotta love the friggin Euro-constitiutions from days long past with freedom of religions.

Here's my vote for banning islam from the European continent.

STEED · 02-10-06, 11:15 AM

To recap you are living in the end times and it's out of your hands the final battle is coming when I don't know the best thing to do is live your lifeâ€™s to the full.

Bertgang · 02-10-06, 11:18 AM

A sad vote, Sixpack, as religious freedom is one of the conquests of our civilization, and not the less important.

What's the next step? Again an imposed national party, racial values and son on? What a brilliant advancement!

TteFAboB · 02-10-06, 12:00 PM

Hold on, let me grab some popcorn.

02-10-06, 06:45 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The EU and Europe's cultural identity Quote: "...radical secularists that want to eradicate all remnants of traditional Christian culture from post-Christian Europe..." : http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/794 My interest in this is not about abortion yes or no, nor is it any interest or sympathy for the Catholic church. How Brussel denies major variables that have formed europe'S cultural identity and tries to rule people that they shall not feel according to these identities - this is what raises my interest. The last paragraph of the article is just a funny addon: "Meanwhile in Italy today a court decided, after a protracted legal battle, that Father Enrico Righi, a Catholic priest, will not be forced to prove Christâ€™s historical existence in court." Das ist doch toll! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-10-06, 07:09 AM	#3
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Europe should be renamed the Tower of Babel II. __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

02-10-06, 09:19 AM	#7
Polak Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland/Sweden Posts: 808 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I agree with STEED. The whole world is going down, europe is being destroyed from the inside and that is because of the stinking lefftwing governments... I hate the EU... I'm staring to hate everything... It's is really hard to stay tolerant now days.. We have a saying in Polish: "Caly swiat leci na pysk" It means the whole world is falling on it's face... / Sebastian Kowalski __________________

02-10-06, 10:23 AM	#10
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Depressing young people is like shooting fish in a barrel. Really, if all you can do is whine about how bad things are maybe your civilization does indeed deserve to fall. I'm middle aged. This gives me the ability to see things with a bit more perspective. Sure, the world has it's problems, but then again it's ALWAYS had it's problems. Compared to what our ancestors had to deal with we have it very easy indeed. So rather than sit around and complain about it, start doing whatever you can to improve the situation. Remember the old cliche: "If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem". __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

02-10-06, 12:00 PM	#15
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Hold on, let me grab some popcorn. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

02-10-06, 07:04 AM	#2
Sixpack Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: below North Sea level (iow Holland) Posts: 592 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Maybe Europe deserves to go down :hmm: ps for those who dont like links very much the synopsis: Two clashes of civilization are currently taking place in Europe. Freedom-loving people having to fight on two fronts. One involves the radical segment of the immigrant Muslim population that opposes basic Western values such as freedom of speech and that is intent on imposing Islamic taboos (such as the mere fact of depicting their prophet Muhammad) on the non-Islamic population. The other involves radical secularists that want to eradicate all remnants of traditional Christian culture from post-Christian Europe by restricting the right to conscientious objection on the part of religious people.

02-10-06, 08:37 AM	#6
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	The whole stinking world is going down wake up people it's the end times.

02-10-06, 10:13 AM	#9
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	The EU Parliament is a stinking pit of corruption working for evil and thatâ€™s a fact they make me sick they think they got all the answers well then what about the bloody mess we are in.

02-10-06, 11:01 AM	#12
Sixpack Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: below North Sea level (iow Holland) Posts: 592 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, I am closer now to 40 than 35 yet not depressed Europe is utterly confused and to a great extent managed by bureaucratic hypocritical spineless morons but I am not confused and depressed. It's just that we can not deal with the vast majority of treehuggers who are basically f*cking up Europe. Action ? Whattayamean ?! In Europe that means being called a neo nazi. End of story. Gotta love the friggin Euro-constitiutions from days long past with freedom of religions. Here's my vote for banning islam from the European continent.

02-10-06, 11:15 AM	#13
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	To recap you are living in the end times and it's out of your hands the final battle is coming when I don't know the best thing to do is live your lifeâ€™s to the full.

02-10-06, 11:18 AM	#14
Bertgang Sparky Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Italy Posts: 158 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	A sad vote, Sixpack, as religious freedom is one of the conquests of our civilization, and not the less important. What's the next step? Again an imposed national party, racial values and son on? What a brilliant advancement!