This forum is going down hill soâ€¦ POLL!!

TLAM Strike · 02-01-06, 11:34 PM

Since Letum really dragged this forum in to the gutter with an image of one of the most famous physicists in history with a crew cut and a drawing of a pen1s I felt I should bring this forum back up to the high honored place it belongs, so best Guided Missile Submarine of all time?

Note: I discounted the Trafalgar and Collins since they are attack submarines, I don't care that they have an extra 'G' slaped on. If I counted them I would have had to include every submarine armed with an ASM!

JSLTIGER · 02-01-06, 11:48 PM

I don't think there's even a question about this. None of the others has the stealth of the Ohios', nor can they match the whopping 154 missiles that it carries.

Letum · 02-01-06, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Since Letum really dragged this forum in to the gutter with an image of one of the most famous physicists in history with a crew cut and a drawing of a pen1s

DEFINE "DOWNHILL"!

Bort · 02-02-06, 12:06 AM

I vote Papa, and here's why. The Ohio is the most powerful SSGN of all time but it has a problem, it is very uncool and unexciting. The Papa meanwhile, is the GTO of SSGN's. It has a titanium hull, a liquid metal reactor, 10 SS-N-9's and once roared along at 44.7 knots. It was one of a kind, which is unfortunate for the Russians because I think a large class would have scared the s#^% out of NATO.

SUBMAN1 · 02-02-06, 12:22 AM

i vote for the most boring poll of all time award!!!

I mean, come on, the Trident is the only friggen answer unless you have some sort of fetish for another sub of some less capability. 154 Tamahawks? and 60 some odd Seals on board? How do you compete with that?

Maybe someone likes some unknown midget sub that has a ancient cruise missile onboard and does something completely unspectacular?

-S

SUBMAN1 · 02-02-06, 12:23 AM

By the way, TLAM gets my most uninspiring dumb ass poll of the year award so far! No offense TLAM since I will probably do something equally boring and dumb ass before the year is out!

-S

TLAM Strike · 02-02-06, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

i vote for the most boring poll of all time award!!!

I mean, come on, the Trident is the only friggen answer unless you have some sort of fetish for another sub of some less capability. 154 Tamahawks? and 60 some odd Seals on board? How do you compete with that?

Maybe someone likes some unknown midget sub that has a ancient cruise missile onboard and does something completely unspectacular?

-S

I guess you are unfamiliar with the USS Grayback? Grayback had space for 67 embarked troops, SEAL Swimmer Delivery Vehicles (SDVs), and a decompression chamber. In her SSGN role she probably had more overall firepower than the Ohio SSGN with her four Regulus I (or two Regulus II) missiles, the I had a yield of 40 - 50 kt while the II had a yield of about 1 Mt and a speed of Mach 2! Unfortunately the Regulus Assault Mission concept never went anywhere otherwise she might have had the worlds first submarine launched UAV. This boat was built in 1957, ran on diesel engines and over the course of its life could have conducted basically every mission the Ohio SSGN could do.

(Oh I forgot to mention the Regulus could land. Beat that Tomahawk!!)

Plus I think watching the Cusk launch one of its Loon missiles is a more nail biting and amazing experince than any launch from an Ohio SSGN. Where else are you going to see a Buzz Bomb fly off the back of a fleet sub, have a wing break off, go in to a barrel roll for miles before crashing in to the ocean, thats assuming the missile just dosn't explode on the launcher (which happend once)! The sailors back then had some guts to ride on that boat.

Kapitan · 02-02-06, 02:42 AM

acctualy a recent modded yankee (design only never built) could have carried up to 120 SS-N-27 missiles, the design has been past over to malakhit which thinks the Delta IV would make a excellent platfor for a cruise missile submarine, capible of housing 300 missiles ( two per tube) however financing and what not has ended the project and a newer generation SSGN was designed instead.

BTW this was 1988

Sea Demon · 02-02-06, 03:23 AM

Gentlemen. I'm sorry but nothing can beat Ohio SSGN now that it's reached the operational milestone. With her 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles, robust Special Operations capabilities, advanced surveillance equipment, and almost unmatched quietness in the water, and she retains her ASW and ASuW capabilities.

No SSGN in service can touch Ohio SSGN.

joea · 02-02-06, 04:07 AM

Ohiiiiiio for teh win!1111

Letum · 02-02-06, 04:24 AM

OMG!!!111Triiiiident for win!!!!!111111oneoneoneoneeleveneleveneleven

STEED · 02-02-06, 04:47 AM

Wake me up when it's all over

Letum · 02-02-06, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Wake me up when it's all over

it was over when it started

Kapitan · 02-02-06, 08:05 AM

OHIO definatly the best SSGN ever created bit boring on the outside but what matters is the inside

sonar732 · 02-02-06, 09:09 AM

Call me bias...

To add to this discussion is the talk that the DoD is planning on taking the nuclear warheads off some more boats and placing conventionals on the Trident missile...maybe the next set of 4...SSBN 732 would be on the list. Could you imagine that? A ballistic missile trajectory with conventional weapons! I'd hate to be the land lover going thru a flight of those.

View Poll Results: Best SSG(N)
Oscar	7	23.33%
Echo & Juliett	2	6.67%
Papa	1	3.33%
Charlie	0	0%
USS Halibut & USS Grayback & USS Growler	2	6.67%
Yankee (Notch, Sidecar)	0	0%
Ohio	14	46.67%
Other (Cusk & Tunny or Whiskey Mods etc)	4	13.33%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

02-01-06, 11:34 PM	#1
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	This forum is going down hill soâ€¦ POLL!! Since Letum really dragged this forum in to the gutter with an image of one of the most famous physicists in history with a crew cut and a drawing of a pen1s I felt I should bring this forum back up to the high honored place it belongs, so best Guided Missile Submarine of all time? Note: I discounted the Trafalgar and Collins since they are attack submarines, I don't care that they have an extra 'G' slaped on. If I counted them I would have had to include every submarine armed with an ASM! __________________

02-01-06, 11:48 PM	#2
JSLTIGER The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Parkland, FL, USA Posts: 1,437 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I don't think there's even a question about this. None of the others has the stealth of the Ohios', nor can they match the whopping 154 missiles that it carries. __________________ Thor: Intel Core i7 4770K\|ASUS Z87Pro\|32GB DDR3 RAM\|11GB EVGA GeForce RTX 2080Ti Black\|256GB Crucial M4 SSD+2TB WD HDD\|4X LG BD-RE\|32" Acer Predator Z321QU 165Hz G-Sync (2540x1440)\|Logitech Z-323 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Pro Explorer (MSI GL63 8RE-629 Laptop): Intel Core i7 8750H\|16GB DDR4 RAM\|6GB GeForce GTX 1060\|128GB SSD+1TB HDD\|15.6" Widescreen (1920x1080)\|Logitech R-20 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Home

02-02-06, 12:06 AM	#4
Bort Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Studying in Atlanta Posts: 919 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	I vote Papa, and here's why. The Ohio is the most powerful SSGN of all time but it has a problem, it is very uncool and unexciting. The Papa meanwhile, is the GTO of SSGN's. It has a titanium hull, a liquid metal reactor, 10 SS-N-9's and once roared along at 44.7 knots. It was one of a kind, which is unfortunate for the Russians because I think a large class would have scared the s#^% out of NATO. __________________ GT Aerospace

02-02-06, 12:22 AM	#5
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	i vote for the most boring poll of all time award!!! I mean, come on, the Trident is the only friggen answer unless you have some sort of fetish for another sub of some less capability. 154 Tamahawks? and 60 some odd Seals on board? How do you compete with that? Maybe someone likes some unknown midget sub that has a ancient cruise missile onboard and does something completely unspectacular? -S __________________

02-02-06, 12:23 AM	#6
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	By the way, TLAM gets my most uninspiring dumb ass poll of the year award so far! No offense TLAM since I will probably do something equally boring and dumb ass before the year is out! -S __________________

02-02-06, 02:42 AM	#8
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	acctualy a recent modded yankee (design only never built) could have carried up to 120 SS-N-27 missiles, the design has been past over to malakhit which thinks the Delta IV would make a excellent platfor for a cruise missile submarine, capible of housing 300 missiles ( two per tube) however financing and what not has ended the project and a newer generation SSGN was designed instead. BTW this was 1988 __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

02-02-06, 03:23 AM	#9
Sea Demon Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,552 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Gentlemen. I'm sorry but nothing can beat Ohio SSGN now that it's reached the operational milestone. With her 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles, robust Special Operations capabilities, advanced surveillance equipment, and almost unmatched quietness in the water, and she retains her ASW and ASuW capabilities. No SSGN in service can touch Ohio SSGN.

02-02-06, 04:07 AM	#10
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Ohiiiiiio for teh win!1111

02-02-06, 04:24 AM	#11
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	OMG!!!111Triiiiident for win!!!!!111111oneoneoneoneeleveneleveneleven __________________

02-02-06, 04:47 AM	#12
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Wake me up when it's all over

02-02-06, 08:05 AM	#14
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	OHIO definatly the best SSGN ever created bit boring on the outside but what matters is the inside __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

02-02-06, 09:09 AM	#15
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Call me bias... To add to this discussion is the talk that the DoD is planning on taking the nuclear warheads off some more boats and placing conventionals on the Trident missile...maybe the next set of 4...SSBN 732 would be on the list. Could you imagine that? A ballistic missile trajectory with conventional weapons! I'd hate to be the land lover going thru a flight of those.