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Old 01-18-06, 03:29 PM   #1
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just as the morse code post, i would like to make 1 but with the enigma machine.
you can download the enigma simulator from here:
http://www.simulacionnaval.com/Porta...ownload&cid=24
the link is called "maquina enigma oficial de sumulacionnaval.com"
(dont worry the program is in english)
you can download it learn to use it and then post msgs and decode other msgs. (just give all info needed to decode the msg)

tutorial:
1-open the machine by clicking in the white screw in the right side of the rotors. http://img498.imageshack.us/my.php?i...errada15jb.png (the arrow with the number 1)
that should show the inside of the machine with 3 rotors, click on them and then click in the lower part (where 2 other rotors are plased) to remove them. you should see this: http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?im...norotor6nm.png (you can see 5 rotors in the box and the B wide reflector, let not touch the reflector for now.)
you can select the rotors by clicking on them and then clickin on the slot you want to place them on (for the first message i placed the 2nd rotor in the 1st slot, the last rotor in the 2nd slot and the 3rd rotor in the 3rd slot walzenlage 253)
if you click on a rotor but you dont place it anywhere you could see the ringsetting of the rotor (the A-01) and you can change it (B-02 C-03 and so on.) thats the ringstellung (for the msg i used LQV) you can see the ring setting here: http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?im...gseting7wv.png

once that is setted you can press in the upper side of the machine to close it and move on to the next step, the steckerverbindungen.

http://img498.imageshack.us/my.php?i...errada15jb.png (click near the arrow with the number 2)
and you should see something like this:

i cant load anymre imgs, i get "could not find server" so i will finish the tutorial as soon as i can.

i'll start:
walzenlage: 253
ringstellung: lqv
steckerverbindungen: ak em fh jq no ru
start position: ojk
msg:
GCFER IRHPL ZCPAX BYKWK VFAHU RDMOQ HCKXQ QFEBS BJS
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Old 01-18-06, 04:10 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by CV-707
Ok, i just don't get how to use it! I guess I'm so stupid! Well, can anyone make a tutorial with pictures on how to use it?
if you press in the square in the upper left side of the enigma machine or press f1 a help menu should open with instructions to use the program.
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Old 01-18-06, 04:16 PM   #3
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then duty calls, i'll use my (poor) english to make some kind of tutorial
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Old 01-18-06, 04:50 PM   #4
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(edited for idiocracy)
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Old 01-18-06, 04:54 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Oberon
ZEEX NAOI CTZC QYXG UIZL PPHL HKDI U


This is a very perplexing thing.
we cant decode it without the start position, the connections and the ringsettings :S
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Old 01-18-06, 05:20 PM   #6
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My bad!

Right, gonna try this again.

Walzenlage: (b) II IV V
Ringstellung: 1 19 10
Steckerverbindungen: AC NO UB WQ LX ZH JV YI KP TE

1st Trigram = EZH
2nd Trigram = TUP

HLVS UJWDZ DYIFT NNTZB WZSMA PIMMK VKH

Should hopefully read
THSIATESTTOSEEIFICANTYPETHSRIGHT
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Old 01-18-06, 06:19 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenijaru
i'll start:

walzenlage: 253
ringstellung: lqv
steckerverbindungen: ak em fh jq no ru
start position: ojk
msg:

GCFER IRHPL ZCPAX BYKWK VFAHU RDMOQ HCKXQ QFEBS BJS
I think it says:

ZBMMW KUTHH PBDCR TIBHZ XPHUY
WYEFM FXVYX FOROL VCF



Did I miss a step somewhere???
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Old 01-18-06, 06:25 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenijaru
i'll start:

walzenlage: 253
ringstellung: lqv
steckerverbindungen: ak em fh jq no ru
start position: ojk
msg:

GCFER IRHPL ZCPAX BYKWK VFAHU RDMOQ HCKXQ QFEBS BJS
I think it says:

ZBMMW KUTHH PBDCR TIBHZ XPHUY
WYEFM FXVYX FOROL VCF



Did I miss a step somewhere???
Think you did. I decoded it ok.
Did you set the ringstellung right?
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Old 01-18-06, 06:37 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenijaru
i'll start:
walzenlage: 253
ringstellung: lqv
steckerverbindungen: ak em fh jq no ru
start position: ojk
msg:
GCFER IRHPL ZCPAX BYKWK VFAHU RDMOQ HCKXQ QFEBS BJS
Using the same settings:

VKDLM TQDWV WTNFA IDDFV QJIBS
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Old 01-18-06, 06:42 PM   #10
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You're right, I had it set wrong.

Using the same settings as the original message:


SCSSG RUTOY TPNBB GHAQM IFRIU
KMLCK SUFGN WWUMK AVRSN FXFLT
ZQAPN BYJAM GIHIF GWNJZ IYKTG
VPUQS KZJZB AKRXF LYCHE VTF
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Old 01-18-06, 06:48 PM   #11
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Using the same settings:

VKDLM TQDWV WTNFA IDDFV QJIBS

IJPON RUOKI OPTJY BYZGB BIAHD
CZESY SUDTQ QTPMK YMEBL
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Old 01-18-06, 07:03 PM   #12
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New settings

Walzenlage: (b) III V I
Ringstellung: HRD
Steckerverbindungen: BL FV GR DT SP WQ XH JM AU YE
Start: PHK

HZDDK DAQQL CJQBK VPMPL CUHTH HUUVJ XFGIE TRKQE DQRPY JEYBP BAWMZ SVPUS EHCCP NAHFZ GMXLV WENYM NRQIH OZKRF YFPLF WRYZD RTTYU QOIPV EPVUM TRAKR ZRLON XZUNM ENUWB SHRTS MHT
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Old 01-18-06, 07:10 PM   #13
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didn't u-boats have a 4 ring enigma machine? i'm sure they did.
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Old 01-18-06, 07:23 PM   #14
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Quote:
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didn't u-boats have a 4 ring enigma machine? i'm sure they did.
Beta or Gamma rings at the start.
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Old 01-18-06, 10:32 PM   #15
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New Settings (in keeping with the Naval tradition...)

Walzenlage: (b) Beta IV VII I

Ringstellung: PLZK

Steckerverbindungen: FR AN KE ST IW CV

Start: UGIV


VEEQ FZLO AKFA OACM CEGD OLNH SYPB TKUH EZFF XVOP QYUJ UMMP BRMA NAMV NENH EGAQ BOUA QHJO EGHL RDAE IVQO FHBS BWIS DRDY VHNG VDWN IA
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