Whales Ahoy!

nelson · 12-03-05, 03:52 AM

Hi folks, anyone interested in this? As an experiment I took all the destroyer_hyd sound files away, vapor and destroyer, and also propeller_5_hyd, then renamed my whale recording (.wav) to destroyer_hyd put that in the sound folder and hey presto a virtual whale.
The origional hyd sounds are 0nly 4 secs long and looped. My .wav file is 16 minutes, so it proves any .wav sound file should work.
I tried it on a single mission, Narvik, I was submerged at periscope depth and when I pressed F12 and "flew" over to the destroyers, all sounds were normal, even when I dipped under to look at the screws. When I went to the hydrophone I turned the dial towards the destroyers and heard..........the beautiful sound of humpbacks, there were at least three destroyers in the mission guarding a battleship. The battleship sound was normal on the hydrophone, surrounded by three whales.
Imagine if this could be implimented to work with something else? such as a torpedo? somehow slowed down to 5mph, unarmed, able to change depths automatically and with the torp sound changed to a whale. A torp or several together (schools) or different schools even at different times/routes that goes on round a set course forever during the game so there is some chance in some mission/patrol that you could come across it just as in real life? It'll be constantly on the move so it'll come onto and move off the hydrophone as it moves. Maybe have it so the s"sound contact" can be reported so you can investigate? MAybe skin the torps so they at least look a bit like whales from a distance should you want to go 'look' at them. The dolphins in HT 1.46 could be enlarged and the dorsal removed, fins elongated. This could maybe be implemented into HT 1.46 for the dolphins too?

Are these the ravings of a madman or have I got something?
Try it and see for yourselves.

chris911 · 12-03-05, 12:22 PM

sounds good. Infact that is what most sims today lack off: Atmosphere , and so implenting whale sounds and maybe later even Whale modells is a good step in the right direction for this sim.

nelson · 12-03-05, 05:38 PM

Hi Chris911, encouraging , I hope others agree too. Cheers

Sulikate · 12-03-05, 06:50 PM

interesting idea, if we can get a whale model (I made one, but it is an orca

), it may be a really nice add-on

.

nelson · 12-03-05, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sulikate

interesting idea, if we can get a whale model (I made one, but it is an orca

), it may be a really nice add-on

.

Hi Sulikate, I can get Orca sounds, they are seen quite often in Atlantic waters I believe? What a sight to see an Orca or two jump out of the water, and then crash back down again, SPLAAAASH!!, ( Use the wake mod??) right next to your sub, eh? That'll be a screenshot worth posting.
And then you can listen to it on the hydro.

Sulikate · 12-03-05, 07:53 PM

I don't know about finding orcas in atlantic, maybe someone her has more knowledge about it, but it would be nice to have some whales around me during patrols, hopw thy don't hit me while I'm submerged!

nelson · 12-04-05, 11:23 AM

Come on you modders, please, please, please

nelson · 12-04-05, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sulikate

I don't know about finding orcas in atlantic, maybe someone her has more knowledge about it, but it would be nice to have some whales around me during patrols, hopw thy don't hit me while I'm submerged!

Think they would come off worse? big headache lol

Rubini · 12-04-05, 03:22 PM

Hi nelson,

Sorry for the delay in post a reply to you. I'm very busy these last days.

I think that this could be a good idea. I will suggest that we clone one little ship and them associate the whale sound file to it then we can add this "new" ship on the SCR or on the RND layer. I already asked Sergei about the possibility to make a 3D whale from dolphins but he said me that this is not possible for him. Perhaps the guys who are working with really new 3D objects.
I don't have any other idea now. But it's a good idea! :hmm:

Rubini.

nelson · 12-04-05, 07:52 PM

Hi Rubini, thanks, brilliant!! I guess we don't need whales that jump out the water, just come up for air and maybe float along for a while then submerge again?, so the model wouldn't have to be too perfect as long as it looks the part?
And as soon as you "spot" a surfaced Humpback/blue/grey/wright/mink ( or whatever

) you can run down to the hydrophone room and have a listen, or take photos.

Kalach · 12-04-05, 08:50 PM

A few points I've thought of are collideing with the whales, if they are made as an actual physical object perhaps they could be given 'enemy merchant AI' to make them 'run away' from your boat.
Also what about your hydrophone operator? Will he call it out as a merchant contact, and send you on a wild goose chase after this invisable merchant? Or will it be unreported and you have to find it yourself?

Just trying to point out some things that might need to be thought out before starting

It sounds like a promising project, I'm always up for things that add atmosphere

nelson · 12-04-05, 09:55 PM

Hi Kalach, thanks for the input, that's a good point. I would think the enemy AI is a good idea so we don't collide with them.
Could the operator call out "unknown contact"? Or the watch officer could shout " Whale off the port bow sir!!" or such-like.
I wonder what happened in real life? It must have happened sometimes? Although a good operator would know the difference between a ship's motors and a whale?:hmm:

12-03-05, 03:52 AM	#1
nelson Medic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 160 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Whales Ahoy! Hi folks, anyone interested in this? As an experiment I took all the destroyer_hyd sound files away, vapor and destroyer, and also propeller_5_hyd, then renamed my whale recording (.wav) to destroyer_hyd put that in the sound folder and hey presto a virtual whale. The origional hyd sounds are 0nly 4 secs long and looped. My .wav file is 16 minutes, so it proves any .wav sound file should work. I tried it on a single mission, Narvik, I was submerged at periscope depth and when I pressed F12 and "flew" over to the destroyers, all sounds were normal, even when I dipped under to look at the screws. When I went to the hydrophone I turned the dial towards the destroyers and heard..........the beautiful sound of humpbacks, there were at least three destroyers in the mission guarding a battleship. The battleship sound was normal on the hydrophone, surrounded by three whales. Imagine if this could be implimented to work with something else? such as a torpedo? somehow slowed down to 5mph, unarmed, able to change depths automatically and with the torp sound changed to a whale. A torp or several together (schools) or different schools even at different times/routes that goes on round a set course forever during the game so there is some chance in some mission/patrol that you could come across it just as in real life? It'll be constantly on the move so it'll come onto and move off the hydrophone as it moves. Maybe have it so the s"sound contact" can be reported so you can investigate? MAybe skin the torps so they at least look a bit like whales from a distance should you want to go 'look' at them. The dolphins in HT 1.46 could be enlarged and the dorsal removed, fins elongated. This could maybe be implemented into HT 1.46 for the dolphins too? Are these the ravings of a madman or have I got something? Try it and see for yourselves.

12-03-05, 06:50 PM	#4
Sulikate Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Korea Posts: 834 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	interesting idea, if we can get a whale model (I made one, but it is an orca ), it may be a really nice add-on . __________________ Se flutua e não fala quack, afunde-o!

12-03-05, 07:53 PM	#6
Sulikate Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Korea Posts: 834 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I don't know about finding orcas in atlantic, maybe someone her has more knowledge about it, but it would be nice to have some whales around me during patrols, hopw thy don't hit me while I'm submerged! __________________ Se flutua e não fala quack, afunde-o!

12-03-05, 12:22 PM	#2
chris911 Chief Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	sounds good. Infact that is what most sims today lack off: Atmosphere , and so implenting whale sounds and maybe later even Whale modells is a good step in the right direction for this sim.

12-03-05, 05:38 PM	#3
nelson Medic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 160 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Hi Chris911, encouraging , I hope others agree too. Cheers

12-04-05, 11:23 AM	#7
nelson Medic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 160 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Come on you modders, please, please, please

12-04-05, 03:22 PM	#9
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Hi nelson, Sorry for the delay in post a reply to you. I'm very busy these last days. I think that this could be a good idea. I will suggest that we clone one little ship and them associate the whale sound file to it then we can add this "new" ship on the SCR or on the RND layer. I already asked Sergei about the possibility to make a 3D whale from dolphins but he said me that this is not possible for him. Perhaps the guys who are working with really new 3D objects. I don't have any other idea now. But it's a good idea! :hmm: Rubini.

12-04-05, 07:52 PM	#10
nelson Medic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 160 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Hi Rubini, thanks, brilliant!! I guess we don't need whales that jump out the water, just come up for air and maybe float along for a while then submerge again?, so the model wouldn't have to be too perfect as long as it looks the part? And as soon as you "spot" a surfaced Humpback/blue/grey/wright/mink ( or whatever ) you can run down to the hydrophone room and have a listen, or take photos.

12-04-05, 08:50 PM	#11
Kalach Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 366 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	A few points I've thought of are collideing with the whales, if they are made as an actual physical object perhaps they could be given 'enemy merchant AI' to make them 'run away' from your boat. Also what about your hydrophone operator? Will he call it out as a merchant contact, and send you on a wild goose chase after this invisable merchant? Or will it be unreported and you have to find it yourself? Just trying to point out some things that might need to be thought out before starting It sounds like a promising project, I'm always up for things that add atmosphere

12-04-05, 09:55 PM	#12
nelson Medic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Suffolk UK Posts: 160 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Hi Kalach, thanks for the input, that's a good point. I would think the enemy AI is a good idea so we don't collide with them. Could the operator call out "unknown contact"? Or the watch officer could shout " Whale off the port bow sir!!" or such-like. I wonder what happened in real life? It must have happened sometimes? Although a good operator would know the difference between a ship's motors and a whale?:hmm: