H5N1

Jesper · 10-22-05, 06:32 AM

If spreeing around Europe, most recent discoveries were made in Croatia in a couple dead swans.

Oberon · 10-22-05, 07:41 AM

Yeah, looks like it might be in Britain too, no-one's sure if it's H5N1 varient yet or not...but it was in quarentine so hopefully we're ok so far.

Still moving slowly westwards though.

Konovalov · 10-22-05, 08:49 AM

Well I'm having chicken tonight birdflu or no bird flu. As far as I am aware if the chicken is cooked properly then there is no chance of catching bird flu. Well at least I hope that is the case.

Kapitan · 10-22-05, 08:51 AM

anything above 68 degrees and bactiria die same as anything below 18 degrees

Jesper · 10-22-05, 11:04 AM

H5N1 is only deadly for humans at continiously exposure to infected birds.

As of yet H5N1 hasnt mutated to H5N1.(something) where it is sprreing from human to human as they feared had happened in Thailand with that dad and son.

Properly cooked bird is also still unharmful, as H5N1 as of yet hasnt mutated survive extreme temps.
I am not sure that the virus dies at +68C but it definatly does at +200C and chicken should be made at +225C for 90-110 minutes in an oven.
I dont know if it dies or hibernates at -18C but who wants to eat deepfrozen bird? :hmm:

Reminder:
You should always defrost frozen meat in your fridge and not on the kitchen table

Jesper · 10-22-05, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

Yeah, looks like it might be in Britain too, no-one's sure if it's H5N1 varient yet or not...but it was in quarentine so hopefully we're ok so far.

As I've heard it is was a parrot that had the bird flu, and they said that there was a 95% chance that it was NOT H5N1.

The Avon Lady · 10-22-05, 11:17 AM

And I thought H5N1 was a map grid location!

Oberon · 10-22-05, 01:48 PM

Be worried if Bdu try to send you there!

Jesper · 10-22-05, 02:58 PM

DOUBLE LOL !

Oberon · 10-23-05, 06:37 PM

CONFIRMED:
Dead parrot had H5N1

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4370106.stm

Type941 · 10-23-05, 06:44 PM

the parrot did die from the H5N1.

ANyway, I had my normal Flu shot, and doctors said at this stage, it's the safest thing. TamiFlu - the drug Roche's making is only helping to treat the illnes and make it pass better, but doesn't cure it fully. There is no vaccine made for it, and they don't know when it will be made - but not this year for sure.

I guess keep healthy, less stress, don't spend too much time in crowded places, excercise, etc - in other words keep a healthy way of live that makes sure your immune system isn't weakened.

Wim Libaers · 10-29-05, 08:48 AM

No flu vaccine will help against the bird flu, but if enough people use the normal flu vaccine, less people will get normal flu and thus the odds of bird flu mixing with normal flu in a sick person are reduced. Also, it might provide some protection against such a mixed variant if one appears. That's very speculative though.

XabbaRus · 10-29-05, 03:51 PM

I think it is all over hyped.

Really how long have they known about birdful?

2 maybe 3 years? How many people have died to date from infection 61?

So in birdform it seems to be moving pretty quickly across from east to west....Thing is it hasn't yet mutated into a human to human form of the virus.

However the way that it is being reported in the press and all these "experts" its as if the pandemic could kick off tomorrow and wipe out swathes of teh population.

I'll keep a little eye on it but it doesn't worry me so much. Over hyped and over done.sure if I suddenly happen to come across a dad bird I won't touch it and if it is a migratorary one and it drops in my garden I'll phone it in. But I am not going to worry too much for now.

Oberon · 10-29-05, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

sure if I suddenly happen to come across a dad bird I won't touch it.

What about if it's a mum bird?

No, no...I'm sorry...couldn't resist

*is booed off stage and pelted with rotten tomatoes*

Col7777 · 10-29-05, 04:48 PM

I'm feeling a bit peckish, do you think i might have it?

10-22-05, 06:32 AM	#1
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10-22-05, 08:49 AM	#3
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10-22-05, 08:51 AM	#4
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10-22-05, 11:04 AM	#5
Jesper Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Denmark (GMT+01.00) Posts: 112 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	H5N1 is only deadly for humans at continiously exposure to infected birds. As of yet H5N1 hasnt mutated to H5N1.(something) where it is sprreing from human to human as they feared had happened in Thailand with that dad and son. Properly cooked bird is also still unharmful, as H5N1 as of yet hasnt mutated survive extreme temps. I am not sure that the virus dies at +68C but it definatly does at +200C and chicken should be made at +225C for 90-110 minutes in an oven. I dont know if it dies or hibernates at -18C but who wants to eat deepfrozen bird? :hmm: Reminder: You should always defrost frozen meat in your fridge and not on the kitchen table __________________ Jesper [JiD]: jesper@tidesofwar.net My Firefox & Thunderbird Your Firefox & Thunderbird

10-22-05, 11:17 AM	#7
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	And I thought H5N1 was a map grid location! __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

10-22-05, 07:41 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Yeah, looks like it might be in Britain too, no-one's sure if it's H5N1 varient yet or not...but it was in quarentine so hopefully we're ok so far. Still moving slowly westwards though.

10-22-05, 01:48 PM	#8
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Be worried if Bdu try to send you there!

10-22-05, 02:58 PM	#9
Jesper Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Denmark (GMT+01.00) Posts: 112 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	DOUBLE LOL ! __________________ Jesper [JiD]: jesper@tidesofwar.net My Firefox & Thunderbird Your Firefox & Thunderbird

10-23-05, 06:37 PM	#10
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	CONFIRMED: Dead parrot had H5N1 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4370106.stm

10-23-05, 06:44 PM	#11
Type941 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: U-52 Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	the parrot did die from the H5N1. ANyway, I had my normal Flu shot, and doctors said at this stage, it's the safest thing. TamiFlu - the drug Roche's making is only helping to treat the illnes and make it pass better, but doesn't cure it fully. There is no vaccine made for it, and they don't know when it will be made - but not this year for sure. I guess keep healthy, less stress, don't spend too much time in crowded places, excercise, etc - in other words keep a healthy way of live that makes sure your immune system isn't weakened. __________________ Sink the Bismarck SH3 Movie

10-29-05, 08:48 AM	#12
Wim Libaers Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Flanders Posts: 569 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	No flu vaccine will help against the bird flu, but if enough people use the normal flu vaccine, less people will get normal flu and thus the odds of bird flu mixing with normal flu in a sick person are reduced. Also, it might provide some protection against such a mixed variant if one appears. That's very speculative though.

10-29-05, 03:51 PM	#13
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I think it is all over hyped. Really how long have they known about birdful? 2 maybe 3 years? How many people have died to date from infection 61? So in birdform it seems to be moving pretty quickly across from east to west....Thing is it hasn't yet mutated into a human to human form of the virus. However the way that it is being reported in the press and all these "experts" its as if the pandemic could kick off tomorrow and wipe out swathes of teh population. I'll keep a little eye on it but it doesn't worry me so much. Over hyped and over done.sure if I suddenly happen to come across a dad bird I won't touch it and if it is a migratorary one and it drops in my garden I'll phone it in. But I am not going to worry too much for now. __________________

10-29-05, 04:48 PM	#15
Col7777 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 944 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	I'm feeling a bit peckish, do you think i might have it? __________________ Silent and Violent