Torpedo malfunctions in 1.03 official

Sonoboy · 02-08-06, 04:59 AM

Most times when I launch a torpedo, it seems to malfunction in different ways.

The torpedo continues to ping when set to pre-enable after going active.

The torpedo goes into circle search when it was set to snake search.

The torpedo doesn't ping when enabled in active mode, but still can lock onto a target. :hmm: I don't mind this one.

All these tests were done in my trusty seawolf, which is... not so trusty anymore. :rotfl:

Also seems as though countermeasure effectiveness has been reduced. Could just be my bad luck, though.

Dr.Sid · 02-08-06, 05:21 AM

Do we need patched patch so soon ? Well, let's hope the fixes could come faster when the game is out for good.

Bellman · 02-08-06, 06:44 AM

Confirmed -''The torpedo continues to ping when set to pre-enable after going active. ''

Observed (but not typical) -''The torpedo goes into circle search when it was set to snake search. ''

But when 'set to circle torps' turned to preenable, then re enabled they showed no circle search pattern/s.

Didnt see/hear this - ''The torpedo doesn't ping when enabled in active mode,'' - they pinged fine here.

Raven434th · 02-08-06, 08:23 AM

I can confirm also...that the torps ARE pinging when pre enabled and are NOT pinging when switching back too enabled mode (but they also ARE locking on target in enabled mode and making the kill silently where as in pre enable mode they are pinging but aren't locking the target)

XabbaRus · 02-08-06, 08:44 AM

Looks like someone mixed up a variable.

Shouldn't be hard to fix.

Bellman · 02-08-06, 10:09 AM

Raven434th:

Quote:

I can confirm also...that the torps ARE pinging when pre enabled and are NOT pinging when
switching back too enabled mode (but they also ARE locking on target in enabled mode and making the kill silently
where as in pre enable mode they are pinging but aren't locking the target)

:hmm: Well I ran her some more - fresh instal+Patch (Nothing else) Test ran in this sequence:-
1. Enable with ping 2. Preenable with ping 3. Enable with ping tracked me with extreme avoidance.
Ran a couple of times more - same result. Wonder if you have something different ? :hmm:

Only other thing, which should not be relevant, is that I ran all Actives at 40 or 45 knots :P

Amizaur · 02-08-06, 11:21 AM

didn't notice that... have to check... would be very sad if it's true and not an effect of mess with modded doctrines...

Fandango · 02-08-06, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bellman

Raven434th:

Quote:

I can confirm also...that the torps ARE pinging when pre enabled and are NOT pinging when
switching back too enabled mode (but they also ARE locking on target in enabled mode and making the kill silently
where as in pre enable mode they are pinging but aren't locking the target)

:hmm: Well I ran her some more - fresh instal+Patch (Nothing else) Test ran in this sequence:-
1. Enable with ping 2. Preenable with ping 3. Enable with ping tracked me with extreme avoidance.
Ran a couple of times more - same result. Wonder if you have something different ? :hmm:

Only other thing, which should not be relevant, is that I ran all Actives at 40 or 45 knots :P

Bellman,

I don't get the meaning of your post

. Do torpedoes work ok after a fresh reinstall?...

LuftWolf · 02-08-06, 12:55 PM

Oh god this is not good... I just looked at PreEnable/Enable behavior and its is infact more or less completely FUBAR.

Bellman · 02-08-06, 01:03 PM

Fandango -Yesterday I was running 1.03B with LwAmi and after Dl of the new official 1.03 patch I decided on a clean
reinstall and patched up the vanilla. No LwAmi at present as I am sure that they have new stuff just over the horizon,
which I am really looking forward to.

All I can say is that I have reported what I have experienced with this pristine install.

LuftWolf · 02-08-06, 01:18 PM

Amizaur, do you see any chance of getting around this with edits to the Torpedo doctrine?

Raven434th · 02-08-06, 01:21 PM

This will KILL multiplayer unless fixed as you can well imagine....it means no evasion on homing torpedeos...cause ya ca't hear'm comming in.

goldorak · 02-08-06, 01:41 PM

Is this issue related only to american torpedos ?
I ask this because yesterday I played a multiplayer mission against a guy on a seawolf, and he told me in the after mission report that his torpedos were behaving strangely (as described in this thread).
I was on the akula, and honestly didn't notice any problems with the 65cm.

LuftWolf · 02-08-06, 01:46 PM

No, it relates to all wireguided torpedoes.

Also, the feature in the game that makes the torpedoes ping faster as they approach their target, is broken, at least for torpedoes that have been resteered and enabled for a second time or more.

LuftWolf · 02-08-06, 01:56 PM

Well, I have SOME good news.

The decreased ping interval for torpedoes that are homing on their targets is NOT broken for torpedoes that have not been resteered (at least for AI torpedoes).

This indicates that the bug is strictly related to how the pre-enable/enable variables are being passed to the doctrine, so everything goes funny when those variables go to the doctrine, not in the engine itself. So there may be some kind of doctrine level work around... stay tuned.

02-08-06, 04:59 AM	#1
Sonoboy Planesman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United States, CA Posts: 195 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Torpedo malfunctions in 1.03 official Most times when I launch a torpedo, it seems to malfunction in different ways. The torpedo continues to ping when set to pre-enable after going active. The torpedo goes into circle search when it was set to snake search. The torpedo doesn't ping when enabled in active mode, but still can lock onto a target. :hmm: I don't mind this one. All these tests were done in my trusty seawolf, which is... not so trusty anymore. :rotfl: Also seems as though countermeasure effectiveness has been reduced. Could just be my bad luck, though.

02-08-06, 06:44 AM	#3
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Confirmed -''The torpedo continues to ping when set to pre-enable after going active. '' Observed (but not typical) -''The torpedo goes into circle search when it was set to snake search. '' But when 'set to circle torps' turned to preenable, then re enabled they showed no circle search pattern/s. Didnt see/hear this - ''The torpedo doesn't ping when enabled in active mode,'' - they pinged fine here. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

02-08-06, 08:23 AM	#4
Raven434th Watch Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 30 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	I can confirm also...that the torps ARE pinging when pre enabled and are NOT pinging when switching back too enabled mode (but they also ARE locking on target in enabled mode and making the kill silently where as in pre enable mode they are pinging but aren't locking the target) __________________ "Line'em up and Bam!...right to the kisser!!"

02-08-06, 08:44 AM	#5
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Looks like someone mixed up a variable. Shouldn't be hard to fix. __________________

02-08-06, 12:55 PM	#9
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Oh god this is not good... I just looked at PreEnable/Enable behavior and its is infact more or less completely FUBAR. __________________ LW

02-08-06, 05:21 AM	#2
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Do we need patched patch so soon ? Well, let's hope the fixes could come faster when the game is out for good.

02-08-06, 11:21 AM	#7
Amizaur Sonar Guy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poland Posts: 398 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	didn't notice that... have to check... would be very sad if it's true and not an effect of mess with modded doctrines...

02-08-06, 01:03 PM	#10
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Fandango -Yesterday I was running 1.03B with LwAmi and after Dl of the new official 1.03 patch I decided on a clean reinstall and patched up the vanilla. No LwAmi at present as I am sure that they have new stuff just over the horizon, which I am really looking forward to. All I can say is that I have reported what I have experienced with this pristine install. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

02-08-06, 01:18 PM	#11
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Amizaur, do you see any chance of getting around this with edits to the Torpedo doctrine? __________________ LW

02-08-06, 01:21 PM	#12
Raven434th Watch Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 30 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	This will KILL multiplayer unless fixed as you can well imagine....it means no evasion on homing torpedeos...cause ya ca't hear'm comming in. __________________ "Line'em up and Bam!...right to the kisser!!"

02-08-06, 01:41 PM	#13
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	bug only for american torpedos ? Is this issue related only to american torpedos ? I ask this because yesterday I played a multiplayer mission against a guy on a seawolf, and he told me in the after mission report that his torpedos were behaving strangely (as described in this thread). I was on the akula, and honestly didn't notice any problems with the 65cm.

02-08-06, 01:46 PM	#14
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	No, it relates to all wireguided torpedoes. Also, the feature in the game that makes the torpedoes ping faster as they approach their target, is broken, at least for torpedoes that have been resteered and enabled for a second time or more. __________________ LW

02-08-06, 01:56 PM	#15
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Well, I have SOME good news. The decreased ping interval for torpedoes that are homing on their targets is NOT broken for torpedoes that have not been resteered (at least for AI torpedoes). This indicates that the bug is strictly related to how the pre-enable/enable variables are being passed to the doctrine, so everything goes funny when those variables go to the doctrine, not in the engine itself. So there may be some kind of doctrine level work around... stay tuned. __________________ LW