RUB 1.44 and Sergbutos Add On freighters?

Woof1701 · 10-11-05, 04:37 PM

I have been wondering for a while, why I didn't come across Sergbutos add on freighters (KGN and PTR) made from the passenger transport and the commerce raider, so I just had a look at the RND campaign file and found out that - although Sergbutos add on freighters are included in RUB - they are not included in the RND layer.
Is that a bug or a feature?

CCIP · 10-11-05, 04:53 PM

I believe they will spawn for RND groups that spawn "generic" merchant ships.

Marhkimov · 10-11-05, 04:56 PM

Oh crap... I checked too, and I don't see any K G N's or P T R's.

my next question is... W T F?

LOL... :rotfl: ...ok, serious now...

Then how come I've come across those Large Cargo ships before?

CCIP · 10-11-05, 04:58 PM

...because many RND groups spawn generic cargo ships. Not just specific ones. Meaning they will spawn as long as they're in the British/other roster. Which they are.

thasaint · 10-11-05, 06:11 PM

yep, just sank a large cargo today west of scapa flow

Woof1701 · 10-12-05, 03:06 AM

Oh all right then

thanks for the answer. I already thought someone took them out of RUb 1.44. Must be my tough luck that they keep avoiding me

Just to get this straight: Does that mean that the Hospital Ships and any other merchants may spawn as generics in convoys as well?
AND are there also generic warships in the RND layer so that future AI warships may be spawned in the campaign?

Wulfmann · 10-12-05, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Woof1701

Just to get this straight: Does that mean that the Hospital Ships and any other merchants may spawn as generics in convoys as well?
AND are there also generic warships in the RND layer so that future AI warships may be spawned in the campaign?

Not the hospital ships. They are 103; troop ship category. The generic merchants are usually 102=cargo and some 101=tanker.

Replacing a 102 with 103 generic is not a good idea as you would get any troopship and those would not be likely outside a convoy.
I have added the PTR to the single ships because, although in the 103 it was not actually a troop ship and I have added some of the NHOS as they were more likely to travel alone.

I beleive Jason made some generic escorts but not sure as I use my own RND file where, with the C-Class having DCs I have made all the DDs generic so I can not guess the convoy from past experience. personal choice.
I do this to improve game play and not for historical accuracy. The only destroyers to escort convoys (other than rare cases) were the V&W (old engines not sutible for fleet work), Hunt class and the converted A-H classes to convoy escorts (wrongly called River class in SH3)
I wish we could make the Hunt and V&W classes DE types so there could be a better selection of what really escorted convoys and still vary.

Wulfmann

Marhkimov · 10-12-05, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wulfmann

I wish we could make the Hunt and V&W classes DE types so there could be a better selection of what really escorted convoys and still vary.

We can, can't we? If you open the cfg. file for each ship, you can change it's type... From type 4 to 3, or vice versa.

Wulfmann · 10-13-05, 12:30 PM

Tried it, CTD.
It can be done but the Hex editing is long and must be perfect or CTD.

Have not had the time to try it as of late.

Wulfmann

10-11-05, 04:37 PM	#1
Woof1701 Commodore Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany, Home of U-96 Posts: 633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	RUB 1.44 and Sergbutos Add On freighters? I have been wondering for a while, why I didn't come across Sergbutos add on freighters (KGN and PTR) made from the passenger transport and the commerce raider, so I just had a look at the RND campaign file and found out that - although Sergbutos add on freighters are included in RUB - they are not included in the RND layer. Is that a bug or a feature?

10-11-05, 04:53 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I believe they will spawn for RND groups that spawn "generic" merchant ships. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

10-11-05, 04:56 PM	#3
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Oh crap... I checked too, and I don't see any K G N's or P T R's. my next question is... W T F? LOL... :rotfl: ...ok, serious now... Then how come I've come across those Large Cargo ships before? __________________ It takes two to tango

10-11-05, 04:58 PM	#4
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	...because many RND groups spawn generic cargo ships. Not just specific ones. Meaning they will spawn as long as they're in the British/other roster. Which they are. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

10-13-05, 12:30 PM	#9
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Tried it, CTD. It can be done but the Hex editing is long and must be perfect or CTD. Have not had the time to try it as of late. Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

10-11-05, 06:11 PM	#5
thasaint Medic Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New York City, USA Posts: 163 Downloads: 116 Uploads: 0	yep, just sank a large cargo today west of scapa flow

10-12-05, 03:06 AM	#6
Woof1701 Commodore Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany, Home of U-96 Posts: 633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Oh all right then thanks for the answer. I already thought someone took them out of RUb 1.44. Must be my tough luck that they keep avoiding me Just to get this straight: Does that mean that the Hospital Ships and any other merchants may spawn as generics in convoys as well? AND are there also generic warships in the RND layer so that future AI warships may be spawned in the campaign?