PT boats with "virtual" torpedoes (now as mod)

sergbuto · 08-24-05, 02:31 PM

Attack of 8 schnellboots on a troop transport convoy consisting of 2 transports, light cruiser Dido, Tribal, Clemson and V&W destroyers

Gizzmoe · 08-24-05, 02:51 PM

Details, please!!!

What do you mean with "virtual torpedos"?

Duke of Earl · 08-24-05, 03:04 PM

I think Serg has maybe found a way to get those little plywood monkeys to shoot torpedoes.. uh-oh...

Either that, or they've become kamikaze boats...

Cordialement, Duke of Earl

Col7777 · 08-24-05, 03:13 PM

I hope he has, I can see wolfpacks next.

Well done Serg.

CCIP · 08-24-05, 03:23 PM

My guess is that he gave them slow-loading big guns that shoot underwater. Or something along those lines.

Rubini · 08-24-05, 03:27 PM

Rubini.

FAdmiral · 08-24-05, 03:34 PM

Well, whatever it is, he has found a way AGAIN to make things
happen, 3 cheers for sergbuto !!!

JIM

stljeffbb1 · 08-24-05, 04:08 PM

I

what sergbuto is doing with this game!

My bet is that he figured out a way to fling depth charges and make it look like torpedos, at least the damage model!

I am curious to see what he will pull off next!

-Jeff

Seeteufel · 08-24-05, 04:48 PM

Maybe Swordfishs or Ju 88s or whatever with "virtual torpedos" ...

Commander1980 · 08-24-05, 05:32 PM

i think he covered a gun on the position for the aft flak

i was not very successful in dowing that...

sergbuto · 08-24-05, 05:35 PM

Don't get your hopes high, guys. Whatever it might be called (virtual, pseudo- or else) it is just a couple of 14-inch guns in addition to schnellboot's AA guns as a replacement for torpedo tubes. So CCIP's guess was right except the guns can't shoot underwater.

Regarding some entries in guns.sim in the Library folder, in particular

shell_speed
reload_speed
amount (for ammo_storage, i.e. number of shells)

the idea of this experiment was to make the guns as close as possible to torpedoes by reducing the shell speed and by adjusting the ammo amount and reload times. Shell traces and explosion were hoped to be eliminated/replaced using entries in Shells.sim (did not find anything for the gun flash though).

Well, none actually worked. Entries are there but their changes do not do anything. It seems the game does not read them. I could not even adjust the reloading time (maybe I am doing something wrong)?!

Nevertheless, still trying some things...

stljeffbb1 · 08-24-05, 07:33 PM

Can the shells be seen whizzing through the air like regular shells, or can you make them invisible so that all we see is the explosion when it hits the ship?

-Jeff

CCIP · 08-25-05, 12:37 AM

Hmm. Well perhaps if you get anywhere with this, I can actually think of another possible use for this idea - to simulate rockets on aircraft. I'm fairly sure I've read of planes carrying rockets on ASW missions. Would certainly be quite an addition...

I know for a fact that we can put guns on airplanes. Now, if we could put a slow-shell, super-slow-reload (basically none), forward firing gun-type weapon under a plane's wing... there you have rockets. You could even have it multi-barreled if you wanted to simulate multiple rockets.

Seems like an interesting idea to try, too :hmm:

sergbuto · 08-25-05, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stljeffbb1

Can the shells be seen whizzing through the air like regular shells, or can you make them invisible so that all we see is the explosion when it hits the ship?

-Jeff

Yes, traces are visble so far.

sergbuto · 08-25-05, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

Hmm. Well perhaps if you get anywhere with this, I can actually think of another possible use for this idea - to simulate rockets on aircraft. I'm fairly sure I've read of planes carrying rockets on ASW missions. Would certainly be quite an addition...

Didn't some Elcos carry rockets by the end of the war? That would fit perfectly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

I know for a fact that we can put guns on airplanes. Now, if we could put a slow-shell, super-slow-reload (basically none), forward firing gun-type weapon under a plane's wing... there you have rockets. You could even have it multi-barreled if you wanted to simulate multiple rockets.

Seems like an interesting idea to try, too :hmm:

Do airplanes strafe often? Do you have some mission where they would strafe all the time so it is possible to do testing with rockets?

08-24-05, 02:31 PM	#1
sergbuto Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,331 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	PT boats with "virtual" torpedoes (now as mod) Attack of 8 schnellboots on a troop transport convoy consisting of 2 transports, light cruiser Dido, Tribal, Clemson and V&W destroyers __________________ Serg's SH4 and SH3 pages

08-24-05, 03:04 PM	#3
Duke of Earl Medic Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 20 Meter von einer Wasserbombe Posts: 169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think Serg has maybe found a way to get those little plywood monkeys to shoot torpedoes.. uh-oh... Either that, or they've become kamikaze boats... Cordialement, Duke of Earl __________________ U-627.... das \'Wabo-Magnet\'

08-24-05, 03:13 PM	#4
Col7777 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 944 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	I hope he has, I can see wolfpacks next. Well done Serg. __________________ Silent and Violent

08-24-05, 03:23 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	My guess is that he gave them slow-loading big guns that shoot underwater. Or something along those lines. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

08-24-05, 03:34 PM	#7
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Well, whatever it is, he has found a way AGAIN to make things happen, 3 cheers for sergbuto !!! JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

08-24-05, 02:51 PM	#2
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Details, please!!! What do you mean with "virtual torpedos"?

08-24-05, 03:27 PM	#6
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Rubini.

08-24-05, 04:08 PM	#8
stljeffbb1 Medic Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wisconsin USA Posts: 165 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I what sergbuto is doing with this game! My bet is that he figured out a way to fling depth charges and make it look like torpedos, at least the damage model! I am curious to see what he will pull off next! -Jeff

08-24-05, 04:48 PM	#9
Seeteufel Mate Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hamburg Posts: 53 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Maybe Swordfishs or Ju 88s or whatever with "virtual torpedos" ... __________________

08-24-05, 05:32 PM	#10
Commander1980 Engineer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 218 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	i think he covered a gun on the position for the aft flak i was not very successful in dowing that...

08-24-05, 05:35 PM	#11
sergbuto Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,331 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Don't get your hopes high, guys. Whatever it might be called (virtual, pseudo- or else) it is just a couple of 14-inch guns in addition to schnellboot's AA guns as a replacement for torpedo tubes. So CCIP's guess was right except the guns can't shoot underwater. Regarding some entries in guns.sim in the Library folder, in particular shell_speed reload_speed amount (for ammo_storage, i.e. number of shells) the idea of this experiment was to make the guns as close as possible to torpedoes by reducing the shell speed and by adjusting the ammo amount and reload times. Shell traces and explosion were hoped to be eliminated/replaced using entries in Shells.sim (did not find anything for the gun flash though). Well, none actually worked. Entries are there but their changes do not do anything. It seems the game does not read them. I could not even adjust the reloading time (maybe I am doing something wrong)?! Nevertheless, still trying some things... __________________ Serg's SH4 and SH3 pages

08-24-05, 07:33 PM	#12
stljeffbb1 Medic Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wisconsin USA Posts: 165 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Can the shells be seen whizzing through the air like regular shells, or can you make them invisible so that all we see is the explosion when it hits the ship? -Jeff

08-25-05, 12:37 AM	#13
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Hmm. Well perhaps if you get anywhere with this, I can actually think of another possible use for this idea - to simulate rockets on aircraft. I'm fairly sure I've read of planes carrying rockets on ASW missions. Would certainly be quite an addition... I know for a fact that we can put guns on airplanes. Now, if we could put a slow-shell, super-slow-reload (basically none), forward firing gun-type weapon under a plane's wing... there you have rockets. You could even have it multi-barreled if you wanted to simulate multiple rockets. Seems like an interesting idea to try, too :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)