Upgrading VII-B to VII-C?

Slammr · 09-11-05, 07:44 PM

Is it worth it, game-wise? And why?

Thanks.

urseus · 09-11-05, 10:01 PM

No way man, not at all.

Wait for an IXB.

I upgraded almost everytime i could on my first patrol. Mistake.

This time i started out with a VIIB, and im going to spend all my money on making it the best meanest sub there.

The only time ill switch will be when the IXDs come out. And by that time, ill have heaps saved up and i can outfit it with the best stuff right away.

Twelvefield · 09-12-05, 12:10 AM

If you plan to stay in the VII series (for instance, you don't want to patrol to America and back), then the VII-C is the way to go. You get more torpedoes, access to more advanced sub technology, and, for me anyway, the bridge looks better -- it's got that spike to the side upon which you may impale the heads of your victims, or post-it notes, depending on your level of bloodthirstiness.

MeeBit · 09-12-05, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Twelvefield

If you plan to stay in the VII series (for instance, you don't want to patrol to America and back), then the VII-C is the way to go. You get more torpedoes, access to more advanced sub technology, and, for me anyway, the bridge looks better -- it's got that spike to the side upon which you may impale the heads of your victims, or post-it notes, depending on your level of bloodthirstiness.

Yeah, and call me crazy, but does'nt the type VII have a shorter dive time?
Which could be a factor later in the war, but I suppose if you have a snorkel it might not matter so much because you can run decks awash.

MeeBit

Kalach · 09-12-05, 01:40 AM

In a VIIC I dont get amazing tonnage but I survive for a very long time.
In a IX however I get fantastic tonnage but have a limited lifespan

hakkikt · 09-12-05, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Slammr

Is it worth it, game-wise? And why?

Thanks.

It is. For example, all those conning tower upgrades are only available for VIICs.
You will never have heavy flak on a VIIB, the best you get is that super-ugly dustbin on the deck with a 20mm. With a VIIC, you can ultimately upgrade to 2x37mm and 4x20mm on the conning tower, which packs quite a punch.

I cannot comment on things like upgraded listening devices, snorkel etc. because I have always upgraded to VIIC quite early, but I dont think you will get them on a VIIB.

magick · 09-12-05, 05:34 AM

If you want you can upgrade to a VIIC-4 cunningtower with 3 x twin 37mm flackguns but that is a little bit to much flackpower

big_feef · 09-12-05, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by magick

If you want you can upgrade to a VIIC-4 cunningtower with 3 x twin 37mm flackguns but that is a little bit to much flackpower

That looks like way too much firepower... Since my experience fighting planes has never been good, I prefer to not go all out on flaks... just enough for those times when diving is not a good option and you're forced to duke it out on the surface with the pests. And that senario happens like never so...

magick · 09-12-05, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by big_feef

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Originally Posted by magick

If you want you can upgrade to a VIIC-4 cunningtower with 3 x twin 37mm flackguns but that is a little bit to much flackpower

That looks like way too much firepower... Since my experience fighting planes has never been good, I prefer to not go all out on flaks... just enough for those times when diving is not a good option and you're forced to duke it out on the surface with the pests. And that senario happens like never so...

Yep it is much firepower, shot down several B-24's with it but against smaller planes it's no option because they crash on your sub if you shoot them at long range

SmokinTep · 09-12-05, 06:01 AM

I think all the heavy duty flak guns are a waste in later years.

magick · 09-12-05, 06:07 AM

Yes the best way is to dive, but once in a while I like to shoot down a B-24 just to see the gunners at work

Kalach · 09-12-05, 04:12 PM

I had a VIIC-4 tower once, but I changed it back to 2 after that patrol, it just wasn't nice to look at

I find the VIIC-2 tower to be the most astheticly pleasing in the game

Back to the topic but....
I would definatly recommend getting the VIIC as soon as possible if you want to stay with the VII class. If you want to eventualy own a IX or such I would put a few upgrades on your B (KDB hydrophone and cheap engine upgrade) to keep you going easily until you can afford it.

urseus · 09-12-05, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by magick

If you want you can upgrade to a VIIC-4 cunningtower with 3 x twin 37mm flackguns but that is a little bit to much flackpower

Holy **** where is your deck gun?

Kalach · 09-12-05, 06:35 PM

No deck guns for the U-Flaks :P

magick · 09-12-05, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by urseus

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Originally Posted by magick

If you want you can upgrade to a VIIC-4 cunningtower with 3 x twin 37mm flackguns but that is a little bit to much flackpower

Holy poo poo where is your deck gun?

Trowed the deckgun overboard

Finish badly damaged ships with the heavy flak

The screenshot you see is from a VIIC with a model 4 cunningtower, there is only room for 3 heavy flak emplacements (2 after and 1 in front of the bridge). You can choose between 20 or 37mm heavy flaks in different configurations. Every attacking plane will be killed immidiatly, even 3 or 4 at once! But always let the gunners fire at close range against small planes, otherwise they crash on your sub

But remember, challenging planes is risky, maybe it's best you keep your deckgun and dive ASAP if you spot a plane

09-11-05, 07:44 PM	#1
Slammr Watch Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 17 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Upgrading VII-B to VII-C? Is it worth it, game-wise? And why? Thanks.

09-12-05, 01:40 AM	#5
Kalach Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 366 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	In a VIIC I dont get amazing tonnage but I survive for a very long time. In a IX however I get fantastic tonnage but have a limited lifespan __________________

09-12-05, 04:12 PM	#12
Kalach Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 366 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I had a VIIC-4 tower once, but I changed it back to 2 after that patrol, it just wasn't nice to look at I find the VIIC-2 tower to be the most astheticly pleasing in the game Back to the topic but.... I would definatly recommend getting the VIIC as soon as possible if you want to stay with the VII class. If you want to eventualy own a IX or such I would put a few upgrades on your B (KDB hydrophone and cheap engine upgrade) to keep you going easily until you can afford it. __________________

09-12-05, 06:35 PM	#14
Kalach Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 366 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	No deck guns for the U-Flaks :P __________________

09-11-05, 10:01 PM	#2
urseus Helmsman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 105 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No way man, not at all. Wait for an IXB. I upgraded almost everytime i could on my first patrol. Mistake. This time i started out with a VIIB, and im going to spend all my money on making it the best meanest sub there. The only time ill switch will be when the IXDs come out. And by that time, ill have heaps saved up and i can outfit it with the best stuff right away.

09-12-05, 12:10 AM	#3
Twelvefield Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 186 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If you plan to stay in the VII series (for instance, you don't want to patrol to America and back), then the VII-C is the way to go. You get more torpedoes, access to more advanced sub technology, and, for me anyway, the bridge looks better -- it's got that spike to the side upon which you may impale the heads of your victims, or post-it notes, depending on your level of bloodthirstiness.

09-12-05, 05:34 AM	#7
magick Bosun Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 50.8170°N,5.6670°E Posts: 68 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	If you want you can upgrade to a VIIC-4 cunningtower with 3 x twin 37mm flackguns but that is a little bit to much flackpower

09-12-05, 06:01 AM	#10
SmokinTep Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Suffolk, Virginia Posts: 1,027 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think all the heavy duty flak guns are a waste in later years.

09-12-05, 06:07 AM	#11
magick Bosun Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 50.8170°N,5.6670°E Posts: 68 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Yes the best way is to dive, but once in a while I like to shoot down a B-24 just to see the gunners at work