kapitain and seawolf (where do i start)

Kapitan · 08-30-05, 02:30 PM

just done a custom mission on the SSN21 and found it to be a lot harder to handle than an akula heres my thoughts.

firstly im amazed at this submarine not only is it unique to the american navy its also unique to the world and its a great submarine.

i did find some problems though it might be cause im new to the acctual sub i found vepr was able to detect and fire at me before i even detected it (i was at 7 knots about 15 miles away) the vepr fired 3 SS-N-27ASW missiles at me all of which failed to sink me.

i came in close finaly getting new contact at 7 miles range shortly after i got the dredded TIW warning the vepr fired 4 53cm torpedos at me i evaded them but speed and CM's and im impressed that the sub can go to 40 knots no problem

after a little shoot out with vepr in which i fired 6 MK48ADCAPS at and she still didnt sink i proceaded to sink two surface ships,
i raised to 60 feet and fired 3 harpoons and two TASM all of which were shot down.

i fired 3 torps at the kirov again failing to sink her but putting her out of action and another 2 torps into a sovremenny also failing to sink her (one missed) but she wasnt out of action not properly
she launched her helo.

i went deep i saw on the usni that 1968 feet is max depth so i went there but when i got there no crush warning so i went down further in steps of 50 feet finaly at 2150 feet it came i paniced and rose to 1400 feet i was amazed at such depth for this submarine normaly in the 688 i could only go to 1600 feet back in SC the akula could go to 2,300 feet and even further to 715 meters (2,345 feet)

now the sensors all of them bar the periscope were beyond me i could bearly handle the 688's so forget asking about the 21's it was just too far advanced i prefer my akulas simplisty

all in all I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO THE AMERICANS FOR PRODUCING SUCH A GREAT SUBMARINE

im truly amazed at this boat and i can now say my gepard would have sever problems finding and sinking the seawolf in a one on one battle but it did take a bit for the seawolf to get to the vepr and in a very experianced akula skipper so it kinda gives me a little advance

but yeah i admit for once i think i will have difficaultys in sinking such a vessel

UglyMowgli · 08-30-05, 06:45 PM

I hope it is a good ship at 3 billion US$ unit! you can produce for the same price :
5 Astute
or
9 scoperne
or
.....

Kapitan · 08-30-05, 06:47 PM

well perhapse america will build cheaper subs with same capibilitys who knows

Takeda Shingen · 08-30-05, 06:50 PM

Yes, it's called the Virginia.

http://www.sublant.navy.mil/virginia774.html

Kapitan · 08-30-05, 06:52 PM

cool

UglyMowgli · 08-30-05, 08:27 PM

1.3 billion US$ per ship, not very cheap ship.

Kapitan · 08-30-05, 08:31 PM

no its not a kilo costs only $77 million maybe a little more but around that mark

Bellman · 08-31-05, 02:25 AM

K - why not have a run at diving the SW ?

I too stuck to one sub, the SW, for a long time. But converting to the Ak and sticking with her has given me new perspectives.

If I do return to the SW I will be armed with much more info about the Aks characteristics and performance limitations.

I will know much, if not all, of how the Ak diver thinks, how he employs tactics that match his sub etc.........

Give it a whirl - you will not be disloyal to your motherland as you learn the strengths and
weaknesses of the opposition platform.

The objectivity you achieve will improve your gameplay and could be good preparation for your eventual MP.

Match your practical skills to your knowledge base and the 'world's your oyster'

Kapitan · 08-31-05, 02:46 AM

hehe bellman thats exactly what im doing

Bellman · 08-31-05, 02:58 AM

I wasnt sure whether you were out for a spin - on an occasional casual dive.

If you are going to stick with the SW and 'convert' as the real military say - I commend you.

The SW manual sonar is not easy - have a look at my SVAK (Sonar visual aid kit) on Bills site.

If I can help in any way just PM me.

Kapitan · 08-31-05, 03:04 AM

cheers bellman and i doubt il convert i like the ak to much and what would moscow say ?

i shall be taking the seawolf out for one month starting 1st of september doing some missions in her and then summing up everything but i doubt il stick with her in the long run

Bellman · 08-31-05, 04:05 AM

Post your impressions when done ?

A month is long enough to make agood start on the conversion process.

If you linger too long...........you may stay a Seawolfer.
(Some hope with you like a stick of rock ....cut it and it says ''From Russia with Love'' )

TLAM Strike · 08-31-05, 12:29 PM

Is the entire community so attached to one platform?

In the span of a day I might drive each platform twice.

Zerogreat · 08-31-05, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Is the entire community so attached to one platform?

In the span of a day I might drive each platform twice.

I like all of them platforms

PeriscopeDepth · 08-31-05, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSgalileo

1.3 billion US$ per ship, not very cheap ship.

I believe costs have risen to more than $2 bil a piece for the Virginias. I remember reading Texas was up to $2.7 billion. But having a very capable SSN isn't a cheap thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Is the entire community so attached to one platform? In the span of a day I might drive each platform twice.

I'm rather attached to the air platforms (guess I need to change my nick to MADAltitude), but they're all fun to drive.

08-30-05, 02:30 PM	#1
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	kapitain and seawolf (where do i start) just done a custom mission on the SSN21 and found it to be a lot harder to handle than an akula heres my thoughts. firstly im amazed at this submarine not only is it unique to the american navy its also unique to the world and its a great submarine. i did find some problems though it might be cause im new to the acctual sub i found vepr was able to detect and fire at me before i even detected it (i was at 7 knots about 15 miles away) the vepr fired 3 SS-N-27ASW missiles at me all of which failed to sink me. i came in close finaly getting new contact at 7 miles range shortly after i got the dredded TIW warning the vepr fired 4 53cm torpedos at me i evaded them but speed and CM's and im impressed that the sub can go to 40 knots no problem after a little shoot out with vepr in which i fired 6 MK48ADCAPS at and she still didnt sink i proceaded to sink two surface ships, i raised to 60 feet and fired 3 harpoons and two TASM all of which were shot down. i fired 3 torps at the kirov again failing to sink her but putting her out of action and another 2 torps into a sovremenny also failing to sink her (one missed) but she wasnt out of action not properly she launched her helo. i went deep i saw on the usni that 1968 feet is max depth so i went there but when i got there no crush warning so i went down further in steps of 50 feet finaly at 2150 feet it came i paniced and rose to 1400 feet i was amazed at such depth for this submarine normaly in the 688 i could only go to 1600 feet back in SC the akula could go to 2,300 feet and even further to 715 meters (2,345 feet) now the sensors all of them bar the periscope were beyond me i could bearly handle the 688's so forget asking about the 21's it was just too far advanced i prefer my akulas simplisty all in all I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO THE AMERICANS FOR PRODUCING SUCH A GREAT SUBMARINE im truly amazed at this boat and i can now say my gepard would have sever problems finding and sinking the seawolf in a one on one battle but it did take a bit for the seawolf to get to the vepr and in a very experianced akula skipper so it kinda gives me a little advance but yeah i admit for once i think i will have difficaultys in sinking such a vessel __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-30-05, 06:45 PM	#2
UglyMowgli Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I hope it is a good ship at 3 billion US$ unit! you can produce for the same price : 5 Astute or 9 scoperne or ..... __________________ Modern Naval Warfare Community Manager

08-30-05, 06:47 PM	#3
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	well perhapse america will build cheaper subs with same capibilitys who knows __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-30-05, 06:52 PM	#5
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	cool __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-30-05, 08:27 PM	#6
UglyMowgli Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	1.3 billion US$ per ship, not very cheap ship. __________________ Modern Naval Warfare Community Manager

08-30-05, 06:50 PM	#4
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Yes, it's called the Virginia. http://www.sublant.navy.mil/virginia774.html

08-30-05, 08:31 PM	#7
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	no its not a kilo costs only $77 million maybe a little more but around that mark __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-31-05, 02:25 AM	#8
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	K - why not have a run at diving the SW ? I too stuck to one sub, the SW, for a long time. But converting to the Ak and sticking with her has given me new perspectives. If I do return to the SW I will be armed with much more info about the Aks characteristics and performance limitations. I will know much, if not all, of how the Ak diver thinks, how he employs tactics that match his sub etc......... Give it a whirl - you will not be disloyal to your motherland as you learn the strengths and weaknesses of the opposition platform. The objectivity you achieve will improve your gameplay and could be good preparation for your eventual MP. Match your practical skills to your knowledge base and the 'world's your oyster' __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

08-31-05, 02:46 AM	#9
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	hehe bellman thats exactly what im doing __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-31-05, 02:58 AM	#10
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	I wasnt sure whether you were out for a spin - on an occasional casual dive. If you are going to stick with the SW and 'convert' as the real military say - I commend you. The SW manual sonar is not easy - have a look at my SVAK (Sonar visual aid kit) on Bills site. If I can help in any way just PM me. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

08-31-05, 03:04 AM	#11
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	cheers bellman and i doubt il convert i like the ak to much and what would moscow say ? i shall be taking the seawolf out for one month starting 1st of september doing some missions in her and then summing up everything but i doubt il stick with her in the long run __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

08-31-05, 04:05 AM	#12
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Post your impressions when done ? A month is long enough to make agood start on the conversion process. If you linger too long...........you may stay a Seawolfer. (Some hope with you like a stick of rock ....cut it and it says ''From Russia with Love'' ) __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

08-31-05, 12:29 PM	#13
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Is the entire community so attached to one platform? In the span of a day I might drive each platform twice. __________________