silent hunter 3

[wynnstate101]

I own a completely legitimate copy of sh3, but I can't play it on my 64 bit os. I would be willing to use the available fixed exe (even though I would never be able to patch it), but it doesn't work. I just get a black screen after I click of the shortcut with the fixed exe. Anybody know how to fix this?

[Gizzmoe]

This isn´t a support forum for cracked versions of SH3!

But are you really sure that you have the 64-bit version of Windows XP installed? There are people who think that their XP32 is now XP64 just because they own a Athlon 64 CPU...

[stratege]

Hello,


please, have a lok on this thread: http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=41011

You will find all the information you need .






What is that king of shared community if we started to behave like this :

This isn´t a support forum for cracked versions of SH3!

I own a completely legitimate copy of sh3

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by stratege

What is that king of shared community if we started to behave like this :

I think you have missed a part of his post:
"I would be willing to use the available fixed exe (even though I would never be able to patch it), but it doesn't work"

Guess what "fixed exe" means... The cracked v1.0, that´s why he also said that he "would never be able to patch it [to v1.4]". And apparently the crack doesn´t on his system.

[stratege]

yep Gizzmoe, have you read my thread .....


i am also talking about the no-cd issue for win 64 bits os. And i am myself fighting againts piracy, but sometimes, a tech testing need to be explored .... and a lot of tech explorations need to be done to have a clear understanting of winx64 issues.

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by stratege

yep Gizzmoe, have you read my thread .....

i am also talking about the no-cd issue for win 64 bits os. And i am myself fighting againts piracy, but sometimes, a tech testing need to be explored .... and a lot of tech explorations need to be done to have a clear understanting of winx64 issues.

Let me quote a part of the Subsim forum policy:
"SUBSIM Review has a longstanding policy against software piracy. We do NOT allow discussion or even mention of warez, abandonware, peer-to-peer game swapping, illegal download sites, or rip-off websites. Nothing will get you banned faster than pointing people to illegal software distribution sites. Don't ask for serial numbers, manuals, or cracks. Any admission that you have in your possession illegal software can and usually will result in revocation of your Radio Room forum account. Support computer game programmers buy legally purchasing their work."

[RAM]

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Let me quote a part of the Subsim forum policy:
"SUBSIM Review has a longstanding policy against software piracy. We do NOT allow discussion or even mention of warez, abandonware, peer-to-peer game swapping, illegal download sites, or rip-off websites. Nothing will get you banned faster than pointing people to illegal software distribution sites. Don't ask for serial numbers, manuals, or cracks. Any admission that you have in your possession illegal software can and usually will result in revocation of your Radio Room forum account. Support computer game programmers buy legally purchasing their work."

I'd love to see your reaction had you bought SHIII only to see it didn't work on your machine because Starforce prevented it Lord Knows Why (and you get no answer from customer support until 5 weeks later), Gizzmo.

It's very easy to critize another people for doing just the only thing they can in order to play their legally-purchased software, even if that means playing the crappy 1.0 version (now I'm playing with 1.4B and RUB this is a whole new world!!!), when you have never had a problem running yours.

But if you were stuck with that problem, I'd love to see wether you used the "no-DVD Fix" or not. I'm sure you would. To qualify that thing as "Illegal" is plain stupid. It's easy to critize anothers for doing anything in their hand to play a game they have payed for. At least is easy when you have had no such problem. But once you have it, then what would you do?. Return the game and lose the experience an amazing simulation as SHIII is?.

No way.

Anyway: He's paid for his game, so for heaven's sake, let him at least try to play it!!!!!.

[stratege]

errrr, yes, you are 100 % right.




But, i haven't posted any clue to find this, i beleive everybody knows the no-cd issue,


as i said before, this is only a matter of understanding the x64 issue.

furthermore, in this posted, i have made a clear statement:

o all:


- first, i am againts piracy, i i don't like no-cd stuff. SO, DON't EVEN THINK ASKING ME ANY FILES.

- second, this was a tech try, just to see how sh3 wil react to a real x64 operating system.

I think that our elders, like Avon Lady, terrapin and others members aknoledge my way of posting ..... ( am i here ?? )


so, now, that things are clear, could we simply talk about x64 issues....... like, yes, this is quiet a good os, yes, sh3 can be run on it, but, no, even if you own a legally purchased games, you wont be able to used it because of some x32 protected drivers ......

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by RAM

But if you were stuck with that problem, I'd love to see wether you used the "no-DVD Fix" or not. I'm sure you would.

That´s not the point. The point is that it´s common sense that you don´t ask "The crack doesn´t work, what can I do?" in a legal forum! Neal Stevens has made the rules and we must accept them. That´s not so hard to understand, or is it?

[stratege]

yes, you are 100 % right.

+1

[RAM]

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

That´s not the point. The point is that it´s common sense that you don´t ask "The crack doesn´t work, what can I do?" in a legal forum! Neal Stevens has made the rules and we must accept them. That´s not so hard to understand, or is it?

No, Gizzmoe, it isn't hard to understand. But I think that it isn't too hard to understand that your answer was too harsh, either...

I guess that if he owns a legal copy of SHIII and he's trying to use the crack, there's a reason for it...that means the stock game doesn't work either.

So you can say "Hey, why don't you ask for help to play the game without the no-DVD thing? I ask it because we can't lend you any help if you try to run the game with the no-DVD .exe, as it is forbidden by the rules"...that way you're constructive ,friendly, and are actually offering your help while warning this is not a place to publicly discuss warez things...

but by saying:

"This isn´t a support forum for cracked versions of SH3!"

seems you're off to bite him!! .


I concur, this is not a place to ask for help with cracked versions of a game as there are rules that forbid it. However I know for experience (been able to play the game properly just since last Sunday) I can tell you that you get really desperate when you have a problem like this, and that you do whatever it takes to get it running. Sometimes you can even go too far and do really stupid things like asking in public how to avoid Starforce protection by toying with your registry...

At least, I was that stupid, and I did it .


What I mean is- don't be too harsh with him...there are ways to say things harshly and ways to say things friendly. I think you were a tad too harsh in your answer, maybe because you really don't know the feeling of paying for a game which doesn't work when it should... nothing else

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by RAM

What I mean is- don't be too harsh with him...there are ways to say things harshly and ways to say things friendly.

It wasn´t too harsh, after all this really isn´t a support forum for cracked versions of SH3. I´m not really known in here for being unfriendly to anyone. But sometimes the truth can be harsh: Don´t ask illegal things.

[wynnstate101]

ILLEGAL THINGS?!?! I bought this game. What, exactly, is illegal about trying to play it by any means neccesary? I mean, come one, do you really expect me to just obediently return the game and come home and sit down, content that I should not be able to play it?

[Nopileo]

Don't worry, this happens every time this comes up. The lynch mob springs into action... :P 'Innocent until proven guilty' does not apply in here.

[Beery]

Originally Posted by wynnstate101

ILLEGAL THINGS?!?! I bought this game. What, exactly, is illegal about trying to play it by any means neccesary? I mean, come one, do you really expect me to just obediently return the game and come home and sit down, content that I should not be able to play it?

As I see it, this is not a question of piracy. It's a simple matter of buying a round peg for a round hole. You have purchased a square peg for a round hole, and you're blaming the peg's designers because it won't fit. Either return the peg and get one that will fit, or buy the right hole for the peg.

Does it say on the box that you should be able to play it on your OS? If not, then buying the game was perhaps not the smartest decision. I would dearly like to play 'Destroy All Humans' on my PC, but it's only available for PS2 and X-Box. PC is not supported. If I went out and bought the X-Box version of the game, then tried to get it to work on my PC, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work. In that case buying the game would have been a poor decision on my part. It is not the game's fault, because the game says clearly that it's only meant to work on an X-Box. I'm sure you will find a similarly clear notice about OS compatibility on the SH3 box. Mine says:

"Supported OS: Windows XP/2000 (only)"

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

A Windows game requires Windows. It is a prerequisite for playing the game. Get Windows if you're determined to play it.