Is it illegal to copy/paste thread users sub pictures

[kiwi_2005]

Ive been copying alot of your guys Sub pictures you have, in threads and have myself a very cool desktop screen to look at. The pictures are cool. Then again if i start getting acused of being like a sea wolfs staff memeber i will happily delete them.

[gdogghenrikson]

I dont really think so. unless you try to sell them!!

well at least I dont think it is illegal...If some one used my screen shots for a desk top or in forums I could care less

[McBeck]

The nice this to do would be to ask first

[CWorth]

I agree with gdogghenrikson.

I personally couldn't care a less if someone used my screenshot as a wallpaper on their desktop.Most of the time once I post the screenshot here on the forum I delete it off my computer anyhow.I used it for what I needed it for and have no further use for it.Only the rare occasion do I actually keep any of them.

[c0sm1c]

If you place anything on the internet - you are releasing it into the public domain.

In copyright protection law - "If you are placing your "prior art" into the public domain without conditions, you are letting go control of that "prior art" and also, therefore any protections you think or perceive it may have had."

Filing a copyright case against someone who stole an image you placed into the public domain, would be too costly and too difficult to defend to be realistic.

Anyone placing images or anything onto the web must assume that they are giving it away...unless conditions are clear ( i.e. license agreements in demo or other software).

Anyone using those images will perceive they have been placed into the public domain - so are free for public use.

Those who are careful know how to protect their "intellectual property rights" - and simply will NOT place their "Prior art or invention disclosures" into the "PUBLIC DOMAIN".... this includes images.

An example of an image placed into the public domain with proper protection conditions ...is a trademark.

[SteamWake]

I got a great idea !

Ill copy alot of the pictures posted here and on the offical forums and put them into a photo album.

Ill call it See Boats and try to sell it for 49.99 !

Oh wait someone has already thought of that... never mind.

[kiwi_2005]

c0smic1 i like your image. McBeck i like yours as well but chose not to copy it cos its has "member of the Dev team" which im not. Im just after sub pictures, im not going to display them somewhere else on the net or make out they're mine. I just like having lots and lots of pictures of subs I even put a title on the top "Subsim.com"
I got heaps of SH3 shots ive taken when playing the game, then when roaming the subsim threads and seeing all the cool images i thought this would go down as a cool desktop if i start collecting them. Although my family hates it, cos i always turn the icons off to get a better view

[Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense]

placing a photo on the internet does not mean it is being placed in the public domain... to assume that can be a costly mistake...


--Mike

[kiwi_2005]

I got a better idea. I got Paint shop Pro9 its about the closest image editor to making cool images i have. Im gonna make my own image maybe a cut down version of one of my SH3 shots. And then i'll put on my profile.

[Mud]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

I got a great idea !

Ill copy alot of the pictures posted here and on the offical forums and put them into a photo album.

Ill call it See Boats and try to sell it for 49.99 !

Oh wait someone has already thought of that... never mind.

LMAO

[c0sm1c]

hmmmm

just to clarify

The definition of public domain is as follows...

"A creative work, invention or logo that is available for use without permission from its owner. This occurs after patent, trademark or copyright protection has expired."

Therefore if it hasnt been Patented - Trademarked or Copyrighted you cannot prove ownership of the prior art, so there is no protection, real, perceived or otherwise.

Therefore it's in the "public domain"

[yankee-V]

I am no lawyer, but:

The definition that you state has nothing to do with whether an item is free because its on the 'net or not.

"Available for use without permission from its owner" seems to be your stumbling point. The phrase does not mean that since it is readily available to you, on the internet, it therefore is not copyrighted.

All sorts of current things are readily available to view - books, songs, designs. But that has nothing to do with public domain.

[c0sm1c]

If you tried to contest that in a court room you would have to prove "ownership of the prior art"

If you couldnt - you're dead before you begin the case.

That is why if you want to protect your "prior art" you must have proper protections in place.

If those proper protections are not present - anyone could use it - and you would have to prove ownership.

A case like that simply wouldnt get filed. An IPR protection or Patent Attourney simply wouldnt waste their, and the companies time

[Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense]

ever hear of watermarking...

or better yet, having the original, with a datestamp on it...

also... this has nothing to do with patents... ever hear of intellectual property rights... no, then look here...

Copyright protection is automatic as soon as there is a record in any form of the material that has been created, and there is no official registration or form or fee. But creators can take certain steps to help prove that material is theirs.

There is no official registration system for copyright in the UK and most other parts of the world. There are no forms to fill in and no fees to pay to get copyright protection. You do not need to register copyright - there is no official registration system. This is why protection is said to be automatic. So long as you have created a work that qualifies for copyright protection, that is it falls into one of the categories of material protected by copyright, then you will have copyright protection without having to do anything to establish this. It is a requirement of various international conventions on copyright that copyright should be automatic with no need to register.

ref http://www.intellectual-property.gov...protection.htm

now you can believe what you want to, in the light of, or in spite of the facts... but if you want to actually know what you are talking about, there are reams of information concerning this topic all over the net...

if you were ever dragged into a court of law, as you touched upon above, because you took someone's intellectual property and used it without their permission, you'd wind up loosing...

--Mike

[c0sm1c]

They'd still have to prove ownership of the prior art - damned difficult to defend without the proper protections.