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Old 03-06-19, 07:54 PM   #1
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Default Grandfather's pocket watch.

When my grandfather past in 07, he gave me his pocket watch. I've had it put up since then, but from time to time, I've gotten it out to admire. Recently I started expressing how I would love to be able to display it.

So, the girls surprised me with a pocket watch stand for my birthday yesterday!



I really wish i had done this sooner, but I don't think I would have appreciated as much as I do now. Something about hearing it tick away, is surprisingly satisfying.
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Old 03-06-19, 09:48 PM   #2
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Happy Birthday Mork, although a day late. I hope it was a great one for you .
The stand was a great birthday present and obviously, the girls knew it would mean a lot to you. The pocket watch looks like it's in good condition. It looks like a railroad model.


It's a great heirloom.

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Old 03-07-19, 04:01 AM   #3
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That stand suits the watch perfectly

Clearly you are loved... Happy Belated Birthday, mate
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Old 03-07-19, 05:48 AM   #4
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That's a real loving gesture your girls performed.

I find that when it comes to giving me presents for a birthday, fathers day or christmas my daughter is far more innovative than my son.

I hope you had a great day and display that memory piece with pride.
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Happy Birthday, I have an old pocket watch but nothing as fancy as yours, she's a beauty.
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^I thought in the Outback you just put a stick in the ground to see what the time is
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Old 03-07-19, 10:25 AM   #7
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Default CONGRATS YOU ARE 'FULLY JEWELLED'

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When my grandfather past in 07, he gave me his pocket watch. I've had it put up since then, but from time to time, I've gotten it out to admire. Recently I started expressing how I would love to be able to display it.

So, the girls surprised me with a pocket watch stand for my birthday yesterday!



I really wish i had done this sooner, but I don't think I would have appreciated as much as I do now. Something about hearing it tick away, is surprisingly satisfying.
NICE PIECE! BE SURE TO WIND SLOWLY EVERY DAY BUT DON'T OVERWIND AS THAT WILL BREAK THE MAINSPRING. COUNT THE NUMBER OF TURNS TO AVOID THAT!! I OWN SEVERAL OLD GRANDFATHER'S WATCHES (WALTHAMS AND ELGINS) AND COLLECT WATCHES GENERALLY. LURK AT PAWN SHOPS, SUBSCRIBE TO WATCHTIME MAGAZINE AND ATTEND ESTATE SALES-OFTEN ADVISING THE SALES PERSON TO RAISE THE PRICE ON A WATCH BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'VE GOT. ALSO FIND A DECENT REAL WATCH REPAIR GUY TO KEEP THE THING MOVIN' AND GROOVIN' AS THE LUBRCANT WATCH OIL NEEDS TO BE REPLACED OCCASIONALLY AND THE ACCURACY MAINTAINED.(HE WON'T WORK CHEAP!) THESE WATCHES WERE ACCURATELY MADE TO SAVE LIVES ON TRAINS; PREVENTING NUMEROUS COLLISIONS IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS; < GENERALLY THE 'GAME' WAS FOR THE ENGINEER,CONDUCTOR AND FIREMAN TO COMPARE THEIR WATCHES, EACH AWARE OF HIS PIECE'S IDIOSYNCRASIES,AND DETERMINE WHEN TO BE ON A SIDING TO LET THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION TRAIN PASS!!! YOURS HOWEVER IS FROM 1934 0N AS INDICATED BY YOUR 'INCABLOC' JUST ABOVE THE SMALL SECOND DIAL AT THE 6 O'CLOCK POSITION:
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The Incabloc shock protection system is the trade name for a spring-loaded mounting system for the jewel bearings that support the balance wheel in a mechanical watch, to protect the wheel's delicate pivots from damage in the event of physical shock, such as if the watch is dropped. It was invented in 1934 by Swiss engineers Georges Braunschweig and Fritz Marti. at Universal Escapements, Ltd, of La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland. It is manufactured by Incabloc, S.A.Similar systems are ETA's Etachoc, Kif, Seiko's Diashock, and Citizen's Parashock.
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The pivots and jewel bearings that support a watch balance wheel are fragile in comparison to the mass they must support, and without shock protection are the part of the watch most likely to be damaged under impact. Before the widespread use of shock protection devices like Incabloc, broken balance staffs were a common type of damage requiring watch repair.
< 1 OF YOUR SEVENTEEN JEWELS
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These railroad-grade pocket watches, as they became colloquially known, had to meet the General Railroad Timepiece Standards adopted in 1893 by almost all railroads. These standards read, in part: ..open faced, size 16 or 18, have a minimum of 17 jewels, adjusted to at least five positions, (meaning the calibrations a watch has to keep it running accurately regarding of the position in which it is held) keep time accurately to within 30 seconds a week, adjusted to temps of 34 °F (1 °C) to 100 °F (38 °C), have a double roller, steel escape wheel, lever set, regulator, winding stem at 12 o'clock, and have bold black Arabic numerals on a white dial, with black hands. ....More highly jeweled watches add jewels to other pivots, starting with the pallet fork, then the escape wheel, fourth wheel, third wheel, then finally the center wheel. Jeweling like this to the third wheel adds eight jewels, giving 15 jewels in total. Jeweling to the center wheel adds two more giving 17 jewels in total. Thus, a 17 jewel watch is considered to be fully jeweled.
THE ''PA' IS PROBABLY FROM PENNSYLVANIA ONCE THE HEARLAND OF AMERICAN WATCH MAKING.
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^ what a strange place to put your " Jewels. " I certainly don't keep my " Jewels " in a watch of all places.

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I was half expecting some kind of Pulp Fiction story when i read the thread title
Joking aside, congrats - an awesome looking bit of kit there. will you be passing down it yourself some day?
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^ what a strange place to put your " Jewels. " I certainly don't keep my " Jewels " in a watch of all places.

Well, you could,..


...if they're small enough...







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Thanks everyone!
From time to time, the girls catch me off guard with something like this.

My grandmother had mentioned she thought it was a railroad piece, but that's all I know about it.

Aktungbby - Seriously, thank you for the information!
I will try to wind it every day. I was fearful of winding it too much, so I've only been giving it three to four turns.
I will also see about finding someone to do the maintenance.
1934? Seriously? That is really cool to know.

As for passing it on... I'm sure I will, but for now, I'm going to enjoy it for a while.
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YOU'RE WELCOME. THE BEST THING THOUGH IS TO WEAR THE WATCH AS BEING STATIONARY IN A FIXED POSITION ADVERSELY AFFECTS THE TIMING WEAR A VEST; GET A CHAIN; AND MOVE THE PIECE! IT'S AN EVERY DAY UTILITY ITEM... NOT AN ICON. IF THERE WAS A CHAIN WITH IT: THAT'S WHERE THE BIG BUCKS ARE <$700-$1000 THE WATCHES THEMSELVES ARE CHEAP: MASS PRODUCED $500-$10 AND PARTS ARE READILY AVALABLE. WEST POINTERS WERE MARKETED BY THE SAVOY WATCH COMPANY OF NYC FROM 1936 BUT HAD BEEN MARKETED UNDER THE 'WEST POINTER' BRAND FROM 1916 BY LUGERMAN & MORRISON ALSO OF NYC. <NOTE: NOT ALL HAD THE INCABLOK AND WERE INFERIOR 7 JEWEL MOVMENT WATCHES. WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF HOROLOGY AND FIND A GUY LIKE THIS https://mashable.com/2015/07/05/watchmaker-new-york-city/ BOTH MY WATCH REPAIR GUYS ARE ELDERLY CHINESE GENTLEMEN IN THEIR 80'S! THEY KNOW THE RECONVILLIERS 77 MOVEMENT OF YOUR POCKET WATCH.
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Happy Belated Birthday!!!
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