Politicians

mapuc · 12-06-18, 06:17 PM

Politicians are nothing more than a person like the rest of us, except they have the skill to get other people to put their vote on this politicians

Then there are some politicians who have the skills, to get voters to vote on this politicians again and again…., even thou this politicians have made a fool of his voters again and again….

Just so you know it.

Markus

Jimbuna · 12-07-18, 06:21 AM

Skybird · 12-07-18, 06:51 AM

Its the voters who make fools of themselves, markus. Why do they allow to get bought and bribed and why do they legitimise these crooks to do what they are doing?

Its all about voter bribery. But you can only bribe somebody who is corrupt.

STEED · 12-07-18, 07:51 AM

I know longer vote here in the UK as all I see is a bunch of incompetent useless politician's more interested in feathering their own nests while they strut around like peacocks and to hell with us the voter. In part in the UK its out dated political system that needs radical change like sweeping away the worst kind of politician the career politician. The power is with the people to change it but they rather stick their noses in their smart phones on social media.

For the last 30 odd years it has gone down hill in the UK and will continual going to pot.

August · 12-07-18, 09:37 AM

I don't have a problem with politicians per se. Everybody politics at some point but the people who make it a career are generally poison to a society.

Sailor Steve · 12-07-18, 12:13 PM

Someone once said that anyone who wants the job should be automatically disqualified from holding it. Of course that leaves us with nobody to run the country/state/city, but that's kind of what we've had for the last two hundred years or so.

August · 12-07-18, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Someone once said that anyone who wants the job should be automatically disqualified from holding it.

A ridiculous sentiment by itself, as if forcing someone who doesn't want the job would somehow be better idea, but it's made worse by your misquote.

What Gore Vidal actually said was that any American who is prepared to run for President..., not just wants to be President. After all just about everybody has toyed with the idea of being the President at some point if only for a few minutes (takes pull off of beer and says "If I were the President i'd..."). THAT should be a dis-qualifier? Who does it leave?
On the other hand not everybody is arrogant enough to publicly state that they are actually prepared for the job of President. While it still not a dis-qualifier in itself it is a rather bold statement to make and is what I think he was getting at.

vienna · 12-07-18, 01:59 PM

Well, hey, Trump was arrogant enough...

<O>

Sailor Steve · 12-07-18, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by August

A ridiculous sentiment by itself, as if forcing someone who doesn't want the job would somehow be better idea, but it's made worse by your misquote.

What Gore Vidal actually said was that any American who is prepared to run for President..., not just wants to be President.

Who said anything about Gore Vidal?

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To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
-Douglas Adams

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Those who seek power are not worthy of that power.
-Plato, The Republic

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After all just about everybody has toyed with the idea of being the President at some point if only for a few minutes (takes pull off of beer and says "If I were the President i'd..."). THAT should be a dis-qualifier? Who does it leave?

I guess you didn't stop to read my closing statement.

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On the other hand not everybody is arrogant enough to publicly state that they are actually prepared for the job of President. While it still not a dis-qualifier in itself it is a rather bold statement to make and is what I think he was getting at.

I guess you also failed to recognize a little spot of humor.

August · 12-07-18, 06:55 PM

I see you're up to your old tricks Steve. Let me reply in kind.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Who

Who?

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said

Is "said" really accurate, given that we are "discussing" something that you "wrote"?

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anything about

Anything? Well not "anything", just that thing really.

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Gore Vidal?

Yeah, you know the Okie dem that you were channeling. Mad google search skillz though...

Oh hell, playing your silly pick apart game is well, silly.

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I guess you didn't stop to read my closing statement.

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I guess you also failed to recognize a little spot of humor.

And I guess that you failed to recognize that I was talking about the concept behind the cliche and not about you. But of course when your intention is to irritate then you can't miss any chance to be snarky about it, or do I fail to recognize your intent here?

mapuc · 12-07-18, 07:12 PM

From the experience I have made throughout the decades is that:

A Voter don't want to take responsibility for the action he or she make/take/do at the voting station-He or she don't want to feel this burden on their shoulder.

They will however have the right to complain.

My Danish and Swedish friend do complain a lot and sometime I say to them

Don't forget a politician wouldn't be where they are if it wasn't for people having put they vote on them.

So in the end we can only blame our self for this situation Sweden and Denmark are in.

I myself haven't been voting since 2006, I came to conclusion that I couldn't blame others for the voting I have done since 1983.

That how I see it.

Markus

Mr Quatro · 12-07-18, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I see you're up to your old tricks Steve. Let me reply in kind.

Who?

Is "said" really accurate, given that we are "discussing" something that you "wrote"?

Anything? Well not "anything", just that thing really.

Yeah, you know the Okie dem that you were channeling. Mad google search skillz though...

Oh hell, playing your silly pick apart game is well, silly.

And I guess that you failed to recognize that I was talking about the concept behind the cliche and not about you. But of course when your intention is to irritate then you can't miss any chance to be snarky about it, or do I fail to recognize your intent here?

Chill man

I hear pot is legal in Massachusetts now

As for the OP's query about politicians ...

One word they are just "lawmakers"

Buddahaid · 12-07-18, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I see you're up to your old tricks Steve. And I guess that you failed to recognize that I was talking about the concept behind the cliche and not about you. But of course when your intention is to irritate then you can't miss any chance to be snarky about it, or do I fail to recognize your intent here?

August, sometimes I just don't see where you get these ideas. Steve showed that he wasn't channeling that Okie dem you are fixated on but you have your blinders on again. In a way you are just like Trump at times.

Peace and BB's

August · 12-07-18, 08:59 PM

Yeah yeah believe what you want.

Skybird · 12-07-18, 09:01 PM

Ein Satz mit X, August: das war wohl nix.

12-06-18, 06:17 PM	#1
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Politicians Politicians are nothing more than a person like the rest of us, except they have the skill to get other people to put their vote on this politicians Then there are some politicians who have the skills, to get voters to vote on this politicians again and again…., even thou this politicians have made a fool of his voters again and again…. Just so you know it. Markus

12-07-18, 06:21 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	__________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-07-18, 06:51 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Its the voters who make fools of themselves, markus. Why do they allow to get bought and bribed and why do they legitimise these crooks to do what they are doing? Its all about voter bribery. But you can only bribe somebody who is corrupt. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-07-18, 07:51 AM	#4
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I know longer vote here in the UK as all I see is a bunch of incompetent useless politician's more interested in feathering their own nests while they strut around like peacocks and to hell with us the voter. In part in the UK its out dated political system that needs radical change like sweeping away the worst kind of politician the career politician. The power is with the people to change it but they rather stick their noses in their smart phones on social media. For the last 30 odd years it has gone down hill in the UK and will continual going to pot. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT! Last edited by STEED; 12-07-18 at 08:12 AM.

12-07-18, 09:37 AM	#5
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't have a problem with politicians per se. Everybody politics at some point but the people who make it a career are generally poison to a society. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

12-07-18, 12:13 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Someone once said that anyone who wants the job should be automatically disqualified from holding it. Of course that leaves us with nobody to run the country/state/city, but that's kind of what we've had for the last two hundred years or so. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-07-18, 01:59 PM	#8
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,711 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well, hey, Trump was arrogant enough... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

12-07-18, 07:12 PM	#11
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	From the experience I have made throughout the decades is that: A Voter don't want to take responsibility for the action he or she make/take/do at the voting station-He or she don't want to feel this burden on their shoulder. They will however have the right to complain. My Danish and Swedish friend do complain a lot and sometime I say to them Don't forget a politician wouldn't be where they are if it wasn't for people having put they vote on them. So in the end we can only blame our self for this situation Sweden and Denmark are in. I myself haven't been voting since 2006, I came to conclusion that I couldn't blame others for the voting I have done since 1983. That how I see it. Markus

12-07-18, 08:59 PM	#14
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah yeah believe what you want. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

12-07-18, 09:01 PM	#15
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Ein Satz mit X, August: das war wohl nix. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.