I am Privateer. The inside story of an SH3 Modder

Jeff-Groves · 12-27-17, 04:24 PM

I've contemplated writing this story for years. To be exact? Since the release of GWX 3 when the team I was involved in came to it's end.

That was a pivotal point in my life in a lot of ways. Friends vanished, others moved on and left SH modding behind, others became Moderators here at SubSim or elsewhere as I did.

I do believe it is a good tale needing to be told.
I hope as I go along any one will correct me as needed.
It's a pretty good story to be honest.

Jeff-Groves · 12-27-17, 04:44 PM

I started play SH1 then SH2 years ago. Kind of weird for a Guy that was a paratrooper with the 82nd airborne right?

Anyway, SH3 came out and the Internet was growing stronger and I found the wonderland of SubSim!

I had come from a background of hex editing things and here was the gathering place of hex editing experts that could do things to SH3 that just screamed at me!

There was no S3D back then and what we take for granted today was but a dream.
I wanted to be part of making those dreams come true but it was to be a long, hard road.
It's a road I still travel today.

Jeff-Groves · 12-27-17, 04:58 PM

Some of the first things I did were silly. I'll not even point them out but I was learning.
I wanted to do something to get attention!
At that time I thought I needed it. Years later I know how juvenile I was.

But I did draw attention. And I did create something that had not been done before in SH3.

It took very little time to have the Grey Wolves recruit me at that point.
They had been watching me.
Mostly ref. A very shrewed and talented person who was to become my best teacher.

Jeff-Groves · 12-27-17, 05:11 PM

All this took place during the Great Modding Wars as many of us still call that time.

I, like others, took a side.
I did and said things to people I still regret to this very day.
I was banned from Subsim at a point for very just reasons.
I still kept doing what I seem to do best. That is modding the Game and making the impossible possible!

Jeff-Groves · 12-27-17, 05:25 PM

Some how I became friends with the very best of the best.
When many could not understand Anvart?
I took the time to work with that so that he and I are still very good friends.
He has also taught me more then many know today.
After GWX 3 was released? I took to working with others on their mods to help ease the old Modding wars issues.
Those people read like a list of the best of SubSim!

What it all comes down to is this.

I am Privateer.
I am honored to be a part of SubSim.
I have had the honor of being friends to so many here that I can not name you all.
I am honored if any mods I have had a hand in make your Game play more pleasant.

propbeanie · 12-27-17, 06:05 PM

Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate is better, and more efficient, because of you, Jeff!

- hope I didn't interrupt your thread!

Jimbuna · 12-28-17, 06:15 AM

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!

THEBERBSTER · 12-28-17, 08:12 AM

Hi JG
Subsim is what it is because of people like you Jeff.
Where would SH3 be if you and others had not put GWX together for this community?

You have shone a light and others have followed through your creativity not just for SH3 but for helping with other projects.

GWX within the SH3 community today I would say is looked upon as the "holy grail" a phenomenal achievement that is as popular today as it has been over the years.
Peter

Jeff-Groves · 12-28-17, 12:13 PM

Thanks Guys.
As Jim stated I do plan to be more aggressive as I continue this story.
The past posts are kind of an intro to my whole story.

I'll try not to be harsh except for my own actions.
And I will protect some information to not cause hard feelings.
There's been far to much of that in the past.

Aktungbby · 12-28-17, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I do believe it is a good tale needing to be told.
I hope as I go along any one will correct me as needed.
It's a pretty good story to be honest.

We know what motivated this!

Don't leave out the 'well-heeled' nut-case that U encountered in Sacramento... and get a ghost writer( Ms Zaske

) like I did:

That way your thoughts remain lofty; but your I's are dotted; T's crossed; and vowels properly umlauted!

Jeff-Groves · 12-28-17, 01:10 PM

I came from a small town in Ohio. My family, like many of ours, was not rich by any stretch of the imagination.
My father worked in a steel mill in the early days. Then would come home and spend hours in the garage working on cars late into the night.
I was always attached to my father as he was and is a great man. He always had time for me even as he struggled to provide for us.
In a lot of ways that ingrained the work ethic I have today. Be it real life or my Modding work.
My Mother was an avid reader. Television was not a given as it is today. She ingrained in me the wonders of a good book!
I still can read a book in a single day where others may take weeks to read the same book.
She was one of the best at pushing me for what seemed natural talents to me.
Combined? They gave me the ground work and determination to be the best I could be at anything I tried.
I can recall going to school in hand me down clothes and other kids laughing at me and pointing out that i was wearing thier old stuff that was donated to goodWill and such.
That pretty much created my some what anti-social personnality that has a lasting effect to this day.
I spent most of my time reading and drawing when the other kids were outside playing football or baseball.
I was reading about WWI, WWII, and anything Sci-fi! Then I'd draw the tanks and planes and such.
When the space race started and Star Trek came out? I saw the future! And I mean that in a literal way.
One way or another I was determined to be a part of all that.
My father paid to get me into the NASA club and I had all the models and posters that came with it.
That was when I first learned there were, infact, real computers!

Jeff-Groves · 12-28-17, 02:01 PM

From the 60's space race and up to the later 70's? I spent many hours reading everything I could get my hands on about the computer revolution.
Dad had taken courses and was now a Machinical Engineer with a better job and access to manuals to some of the early mainframes and such IBM was putting into place.
He'd bring those home to learn and I'd get my sneaky hands on them.
I was VERY quick to become a Master Hacker!
Now back then? Hackers had an Honor Code that has long been forgotten by those that call themselves Hackers today.
I went under different names back then and I'll not discuss what those names were for obvious reasons!
We used some really nice home built devices to get free long distance calls and such. And attached to some of the early systems?
It didn't take many of us long to be inside Company, schools, Banks, and even Govt systems.
The very early days of what is now the Internet!
We had a Golden Rule back then. Do no harm. Leave no trace.
Seems that is out the window for some years now. And that does include some tools for SH3/4 which I will explain as I ramble on.
Roughly about that time Pong came out. Holy crap! That took my breath away as it was just a simple Game you hooked to your TV!
Computers had came into our homes and I needed to know how the heck did they do that?
I was off on a whole new learning experience now!

Jeff-Groves · 12-28-17, 02:22 PM

I taught myself all kinds of early programming languages, bought and built Heath kit computers.
Dumpster dived behind Companies to recover system parts thrown away and even infiltrated places to gain what I wanted.
No. What I NEEDED to complete a drive I had and still have!
I became an expert with Hex Editing on my own and some help from others that had my passion and drive to be a part of all this really neat stuff!
Back then? If you could hex edit? You could do nearly anything you wanted IF you were good enough.
It's becoming a lost talent or trade now days if you understand what I mean.
I'd graduated from High school in 1976 with a not spectaculer record. I didn't care about that then and don't give a hoot about that today.
They did not teach me what I wanted to learn so I did nothing but cause trouble just to get time off by getting kicked out.
They never expected I could pass all exams and get that diploma! LMAO!!
I was soon in the regular work force of factory workers.

Jeff-Groves · 12-28-17, 02:34 PM

Worked in the factory, had a wife and child, went to concerts, did drugs and was just a Child of the 70's.
But there was always the itch. the burning desire to be more then i was!
I had this burning desire to prove to myself I was more then just the sum of my day to day life.
Then it happened. I caused my divorce and went into a deep depression.
I tried to cover it by all the parties but it got worse.
Until my brother decided to enlist in the Air Force.
I made the decision to see if I was a Man and enlisted in the Army and go AirBorne!

Jeff-Groves · 12-28-17, 02:54 PM

I went to Columbus Ohio to take the silly test to become an AirBorne Infantryman for 2 reasons.
1 was just to test myself
2 was that I had seen that the 82nd would be going to Egypt!
I always had this thing about the Pyramids and wanted to see them.
I completed the test in less then a half hour and turned my papers in.
It didn't take 15 minutes to be called out of the test room and be face to face with several very stern looking Guys!
They asked if I'd like to go into Intellegence! WTH? I regret that I turned that offer down today!
But hind sight being what it is? Oh Well!
I did jump into Egypt and got to see the Pyramids. Even went inside.
That just convinced me that We don't know as much as we think we do!
I spent my enlistment mostly alone. Reading my books and teaching myself even more about computers.

12-27-17, 04:24 PM	#1
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	I am Privateer. The inside story of an SH3 Modder I've contemplated writing this story for years. To be exact? Since the release of GWX 3 when the team I was involved in came to it's end. That was a pivotal point in my life in a lot of ways. Friends vanished, others moved on and left SH modding behind, others became Moderators here at SubSim or elsewhere as I did. I do believe it is a good tale needing to be told. I hope as I go along any one will correct me as needed. It's a pretty good story to be honest.

12-27-17, 06:05 PM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate is better, and more efficient, because of you, Jeff! - hope I didn't interrupt your thread! __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

12-28-17, 06:15 AM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!! __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-28-17, 08:12 AM	#8
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Hi JG Subsim is what it is because of people like you Jeff. Where would SH3 be if you and others had not put GWX together for this community? You have shone a light and others have followed through your creativity not just for SH3 but for helping with other projects. GWX within the SH3 community today I would say is looked upon as the "holy grail" a phenomenal achievement that is as popular today as it has been over the years. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

12-28-17, 01:10 PM	#11
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Who is Privateer? I came from a small town in Ohio. My family, like many of ours, was not rich by any stretch of the imagination. My father worked in a steel mill in the early days. Then would come home and spend hours in the garage working on cars late into the night. I was always attached to my father as he was and is a great man. He always had time for me even as he struggled to provide for us. In a lot of ways that ingrained the work ethic I have today. Be it real life or my Modding work. My Mother was an avid reader. Television was not a given as it is today. She ingrained in me the wonders of a good book! I still can read a book in a single day where others may take weeks to read the same book. She was one of the best at pushing me for what seemed natural talents to me. Combined? They gave me the ground work and determination to be the best I could be at anything I tried. I can recall going to school in hand me down clothes and other kids laughing at me and pointing out that i was wearing thier old stuff that was donated to goodWill and such. That pretty much created my some what anti-social personnality that has a lasting effect to this day. I spent most of my time reading and drawing when the other kids were outside playing football or baseball. I was reading about WWI, WWII, and anything Sci-fi! Then I'd draw the tanks and planes and such. When the space race started and Star Trek came out? I saw the future! And I mean that in a literal way. One way or another I was determined to be a part of all that. My father paid to get me into the NASA club and I had all the models and posters that came with it. That was when I first learned there were, infact, real computers!

12-27-17, 04:44 PM	#2
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	I started play SH1 then SH2 years ago. Kind of weird for a Guy that was a paratrooper with the 82nd airborne right? Anyway, SH3 came out and the Internet was growing stronger and I found the wonderland of SubSim! I had come from a background of hex editing things and here was the gathering place of hex editing experts that could do things to SH3 that just screamed at me! There was no S3D back then and what we take for granted today was but a dream. I wanted to be part of making those dreams come true but it was to be a long, hard road. It's a road I still travel today.

12-27-17, 04:58 PM	#3
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Some of the first things I did were silly. I'll not even point them out but I was learning. I wanted to do something to get attention! At that time I thought I needed it. Years later I know how juvenile I was. But I did draw attention. And I did create something that had not been done before in SH3. It took very little time to have the Grey Wolves recruit me at that point. They had been watching me. Mostly ref. A very shrewed and talented person who was to become my best teacher.

12-27-17, 05:11 PM	#4
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	All this took place during the Great Modding Wars as many of us still call that time. I, like others, took a side. I did and said things to people I still regret to this very day. I was banned from Subsim at a point for very just reasons. I still kept doing what I seem to do best. That is modding the Game and making the impossible possible!

12-27-17, 05:25 PM	#5
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Some how I became friends with the very best of the best. When many could not understand Anvart? I took the time to work with that so that he and I are still very good friends. He has also taught me more then many know today. After GWX 3 was released? I took to working with others on their mods to help ease the old Modding wars issues. Those people read like a list of the best of SubSim! What it all comes down to is this. I am Privateer. I am honored to be a part of SubSim. I have had the honor of being friends to so many here that I can not name you all. I am honored if any mods I have had a hand in make your Game play more pleasant.

12-28-17, 12:13 PM	#9
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Thanks Guys. As Jim stated I do plan to be more aggressive as I continue this story. The past posts are kind of an intro to my whole story. I'll try not to be harsh except for my own actions. And I will protect some information to not cause hard feelings. There's been far to much of that in the past.

12-28-17, 02:01 PM	#12
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Who is Privateer? Part two From the 60's space race and up to the later 70's? I spent many hours reading everything I could get my hands on about the computer revolution. Dad had taken courses and was now a Machinical Engineer with a better job and access to manuals to some of the early mainframes and such IBM was putting into place. He'd bring those home to learn and I'd get my sneaky hands on them. I was VERY quick to become a Master Hacker! Now back then? Hackers had an Honor Code that has long been forgotten by those that call themselves Hackers today. I went under different names back then and I'll not discuss what those names were for obvious reasons! We used some really nice home built devices to get free long distance calls and such. And attached to some of the early systems? It didn't take many of us long to be inside Company, schools, Banks, and even Govt systems. The very early days of what is now the Internet! We had a Golden Rule back then. Do no harm. Leave no trace. Seems that is out the window for some years now. And that does include some tools for SH3/4 which I will explain as I ramble on. Roughly about that time Pong came out. Holy crap! That took my breath away as it was just a simple Game you hooked to your TV! Computers had came into our homes and I needed to know how the heck did they do that? I was off on a whole new learning experience now!

12-28-17, 02:22 PM	#13
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	I taught myself all kinds of early programming languages, bought and built Heath kit computers. Dumpster dived behind Companies to recover system parts thrown away and even infiltrated places to gain what I wanted. No. What I NEEDED to complete a drive I had and still have! I became an expert with Hex Editing on my own and some help from others that had my passion and drive to be a part of all this really neat stuff! Back then? If you could hex edit? You could do nearly anything you wanted IF you were good enough. It's becoming a lost talent or trade now days if you understand what I mean. I'd graduated from High school in 1976 with a not spectaculer record. I didn't care about that then and don't give a hoot about that today. They did not teach me what I wanted to learn so I did nothing but cause trouble just to get time off by getting kicked out. They never expected I could pass all exams and get that diploma! LMAO!! I was soon in the regular work force of factory workers.

12-28-17, 02:34 PM	#14
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Worked in the factory, had a wife and child, went to concerts, did drugs and was just a Child of the 70's. But there was always the itch. the burning desire to be more then i was! I had this burning desire to prove to myself I was more then just the sum of my day to day life. Then it happened. I caused my divorce and went into a deep depression. I tried to cover it by all the parties but it got worse. Until my brother decided to enlist in the Air Force. I made the decision to see if I was a Man and enlisted in the Army and go AirBorne!

12-28-17, 02:54 PM	#15
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Privateer grows up I went to Columbus Ohio to take the silly test to become an AirBorne Infantryman for 2 reasons. 1 was just to test myself 2 was that I had seen that the 82nd would be going to Egypt! I always had this thing about the Pyramids and wanted to see them. I completed the test in less then a half hour and turned my papers in. It didn't take 15 minutes to be called out of the test room and be face to face with several very stern looking Guys! They asked if I'd like to go into Intellegence! WTH? I regret that I turned that offer down today! But hind sight being what it is? Oh Well! I did jump into Egypt and got to see the Pyramids. Even went inside. That just convinced me that We don't know as much as we think we do! I spent my enlistment mostly alone. Reading my books and teaching myself even more about computers.