[REQ] WWI submarine mod

[keltos01]

Can someone make a WWI Campaign in the North Sea, Channel and Baltic maybe ?

then we can work on the submarines, both allied and Austro-germans.

Keltos

[GerritJ9]

If you need drawings of WW1 U-Boote, I have "Geschichte des deutschen Ubootbaus" which contains useful drawings etc of various U-Boot types. Would be happy to scan what you need.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by keltos01

Can someone make a WWI Campaign in the North Sea, Channel and Baltic maybe ?

then we can work on the submarines, both allied and Austro-germans.

Keltos

Do you realize that is likely a multi year project to do right?

[keltos01]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Do you realize that is likely a multi year project to do right?

I've been on the IJN subs nearly eighteen months now.. so has Peabody.. so yes I do.

Der Schalen des zorns or Shells of fury is very nice but the engine isn't. the german develloppers didn't have nor the time or the money to make one as their aim was a 28 euros range game.

I respect their work, but think it deserves better.

keltos

[miner1436]

Maybe it is possible for a unit conversion to SHIV?

[keltos01]

Originally Posted by miner1436

Maybe it is possible for a unit conversion to SHIV?

that's what I was hoping for, maybe ask Skwasjer to have a look at the files ?

keltos

[iambecomelife]

Originally Posted by keltos01

Can someone make a WWI Campaign in the North Sea, Channel and Baltic maybe ?

then we can work on the submarines, both allied and Austro-germans.

Keltos

Sit tight, my friend - sit tight! I've got you covered. More details in about 1 week...

[Highbury]

The biggest obstacle to a proper WWI sim on the SH engine is the inability to operate under the prize rules. SH is all about unrestricted submarine warfare. While the Germans did of course declare unrestricted submarine warfare later in the war, for the most part it was conducted under the prize rules. Lothar von Arnauld de la Perière was Commander of U-35 and U-139 in WWI and is the highest scoring of all time (446,708 GRT) .. he only fired 4 torps in his career, and one missed. It was much different then WWII.

So obviously we could get SH to look like a WWI game, but can we get it to play like one?

(I am not knocking the idea, I have far more interest in WWI sims then WWII if I had a choice.)

[keltos01]

Originally Posted by Highbury

The biggest obstacle to a proper WWI sim on the SH engine is the inability to operate under the prize rules. SH is all about unrestricted submarine warfare. While the Germans did of course declare unrestricted submarine warfare later in the war, for the most part it was conducted under the prize rules. Lothar von Arnauld de la Perière was Commander of U-35 and U-139 in WWI and is the highest scoring of all time (446,708 GRT) .. he only fired 4 torps in his career, and one missed. It was much different then WWII.

So obviously we could get SH to look like a WWI game, but can we get it to play like one?

(I am not knocking the idea, I have far more interest in WWI sims then WWII if I had a choice.)

have you played Shells of Fury ? there is a topic about it here on subsim, here's what you have :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=230

1914 - Shells Of Fury

Set in WWI, "1914 Shells of Fury" is the first WWI
submarine simulation to be released. Players have
command their very own WWI Submarine from the
German Emperor's fleet. Prepare to participate in
exciting underwater missions from WWI, and work
out detailed strategies using powerful weapons.
Take command and control of the various missions
given, while roaming across the ocean. Players
must use tactical skills in order to survive and
move ahead of the opponent.

First Submarine simulation of World War I

Detailed models of Submarines, Warships, Merchant
Ships and Airplanes

Four different German Submarine boats to choose
from: Armada-Petrolboat, Armada-Dieselboat, UB-I
and UC-II.
Over 50 individual missions with accurate
historical backgrounds
Campaign-mode from 1914 to 1918
Mission-generator
Adjustable levels of difficulty
Realistic Submarine Stations

and a screenshot :






doesn't it deserve better ?

keltos

[Trool323]

A WW1 mod sounds awesome. However, to model all the necessary ships would take a lot of time, and thats not even half the battle. We're talking 3 months just to get started and 1 year to finish i'd say. Unless of coarse you worked for 10 hours a day with a slow drool coming from the lips. It may get done sooner if this was done.lol. Its fun to dream though. "I like to dream yes, yes, right between my sound machine"

Steppenwolf lyrics

[GerritJ9]

I vaguely recall reading somewhere that a Russian version of "Die Schalen des Zorns" was released, but which featured playable Russian subs rather than U-Boote. Supposedly this sim was only released in Russia- perhaps one of our Russian board members can confirm this?
The screenshots of "Die Schalen des Zorns" seem to indicate that the included U-Boote are modelled fairly accurately, but the graphics look dreadful..............

[Highbury]

Of course I have playes SoF, Keltos I find a game like that which comes close and doesn't deliver more frustrating then just not having one lol.

That does miss my point entirely though, which is, can SH4 be made to play taking Prize Regulations into account? If not it will LOOK like WWI, and PLAY like WWII.

[WalterJConklin]

Hey Guys, I would like to draw your attention the following threads at:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=227939&highlight=american+civil+w ar&page=93.

http://ww1tw.spruz.com/forums/?page=post&id=72D5ACCA-1B5D-4394-901B-D834EAC8CDD0&fid=CF65FDA2-ABFB-4328-86BE-C4C1F1FF8B98

[miner1436]

Well I took a look at the Shells Of Fury 3D models, they are in .x format and can be converted to .obj.

[keltos01]

Originally Posted by miner1436

Well I took a look at the Shells Of Fury 3D models, they are in .x format and can be converted to .obj.

what do we need to do that ???

keltos