Pussycats (Weicheier)

Skybird · 07-20-17, 05:42 PM

https://www.amazon.com/Pussycats-Res...4&sr=8-1-spell

I just finished reading this book in its German translation. Wowh, I just say wowh, and I add: chapeau! That somebody dares to point out these things and speak them out in such clarity, is impressive. He seems to have a hot wire linked into my soul. And I have not even been a soldier ever. How must real pros feel about this book?

He just got it right. Its not the first book by him I have read, and they all were very competently written, and very good.

To say that in Germany he simply is hated, is not exaggeration. And as far as I know he is not liked in Israal either, for he points out the extreme vulnerability of Israel's strategic longterm position.

The German edition is here:

https://www.amazon.de/Wir-Weicheier-...ds=van+creveld

daft · 07-22-17, 04:04 AM

I need to take a good look at this one. Also, his Command in War looks very interesting too.

Also, I haven't read anuthing by Creveld yet, why is he so hated in Germany specifically?

Skybird · 07-22-17, 05:22 AM

1. He is not left enough.
2. He has a realistic view on things. Germans prefer to replace realistic perception with wishful thinking. Germans do not want to be associated with things like military, war, masculinity (this is not to imply that maculinity is a condensate of military or that the military is the only way in wich masculinity manifestate itself).

Last two times Creveld was in Germany to hold lectures at university, student mobs sealed of the campus and prevented other students to attend (so much for free speech), Creveld was driven away and even the invitation by one university was in one other case cancelled by the university officials. He could not speak.

Creveld is one of the most influential and profound military historians of the present. I know some of his other books, too. Namely "Fighting Power" is a brilliant analysis of the competences and deficits of the German Wehrmacht and the US army in WWII, but though very competent it is a bit dry to read. I also can only recommend "The Culture of War". Most of his other books seem to be more specifically focussed on certain aspects of war and military: logistics, or air strategy. I do not know these.

If matter like this interests you, I have another author for you, John Keegan. "The history of warfare" reflects - amongst other aspects touched by the author - the warrior's mentality and its changes over the different eras of history.

In Israel he is not liked becasue he does not save Israel from telling it that its strategic position is so vulnerable and exposed over the long run that its ongoing existence in the long perspective is highly questionable.

van Creveld is no rightwinger or hidden Nazi (what he also was accused of already, despite the fact that he is Jew and Israeli citizen, he just has a very competent background in data and knowledge and he refuses to censor his logical concusions on the grounds of demands from mainstream opinion manipulators. In Germany dsiagreeing with the left Zeitgeist is enough to label you as a Nazi, rightwinger, X-Y-Z-phobic. Rational and independent thought today is an arch sin. You have to think with the crowd: feminstic, gender-correct, socialistic, servile to the paternalistic nanny-state.

I currently read a German book by a German author, about the relation of the devasted German national soul the German craving for self-denial, and the Jewish present generation refusing to play the part the German selfhaters have reserved for them in their distorted world view. Every nanny needs a baby that agrees to polay the part of the helpelss little thing in need of beign nursed and lectured and educated, and if the entity chosen for that role denies to play that part, like young Jews do regarding Germany, than the anny will never forgive this loss of control and power this refusal means. The book is so much in violation of the German self-hating cult that several book shops and the nation's primary besteseller list by Der Spiegel censored it and deleted it from the lists and selling displays. The author again does not comply with the Zeitgeist and the mainstream opinion that is wanted over here, and meanwhile, at the age of 60-something, committed suicide, probably in resignation and disgust. The book is briliant in language and lasersharp and unforgivable in thought. And yes, they labelled it as Nazi-propaganda. Everybody agreeing with that, obviously has not read it carefully
enough. R.P. Sieferle: Finis Germania.

daft · 07-22-17, 12:12 PM

You seem to have much of the same issues in Germany as we do in Sweden. I would love to expand on this later tonight as I'm ln the move and trying to type on the phone. Very informative post, so thanks.

Skybird · 07-22-17, 01:28 PM

I do not know much about Sweden, but whatever I heard from it about migration and Islamization, sounds awfully bad.

Is it true that Muslim migrants now get Swedish original names so that media and the public cannot differentiate them from original Swedes anymore when there are new reports about... events...? I read that just a couple of days ago somewhere. So far I only knew that laws forbid media the mentioning of suspect first names names in case of police investigations, so that not only their identity but also their origin gets hidden. To actively hiding the origin of a foreigner by not mentioning his first name when he sees the police investigating charges against him, to providing him a deceptive identity to not reveal to the public the link between migration and certain forms of crime where migrants are overrepresented by several factors - that is an escalation with potential, if it is true. You should export it to the rest of Europe.

Oh wait, they already do it...

So in the near future we will not see Muslim migrants raping Swedish women and letting the rate of rapes exploding over the past couple of years, but it will be more and more "Swedish men" raping Swedish women. That sounds more normal for Western standards now! There is additional charm in this. When Swedes rape Swedes, not migrants raping Swedes, it is a good reason for Swedes to feel bad and accuse themselves, since it is "us Swedish men raping Swedish women" then. So good an opportunity to think bad of yourself and bow deeper to get spanked! Oh, Germans would kill to enjoy the luxury of being in your position! Nothing Germans like more than to accuse themselves and shouldering the responsibility for all evils in the world. We envy you!

Thank God we have the holocaust, but it slowly starts to feel worn out, you see...

daft · 07-22-17, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I do not know much about Sweden, but whatever I heard from it about migration and Islamization, sounds awfully bad.

Is it true that Muslim migrants now get Swedish original names so that media and the public cannot differentiate them from original Swedes anymore when there are new reports about... events...? I read that just a couple of days ago somewhere. So far I only knew that laws forbid media the mentioning of suspect first names names in case of police investigations, so that not only their identity but also their origin gets hidden. To actively hiding the origin of a foreigner by not mentioning his first name when he sees the police investigating charges against him, to providing him a deceptive identity to not reveal to the public the link between migration and certain forms of crime where migrants are overrepresented by several factors - that is an escalation with potential, if it is true. You should export it to the rest of Europe.

Oh wait, they already do it...

So in the near future we will not see Muslim migrants raping Swedish women and letting the rate of rapes exploding over the past couple of years, but it will be more and more "Swedish men" raping Swedish women. That sounds more normal for Western standards now! There is additional charm in this. When Swedes rape Swedes, not migrants raping Swedes, it is a good reason for Swedes to feel bad and accuse themselves, since it is "us Swedish men raping Swedish women" then. So good an opportunity to think bad of yourself and bow deeper to get spanked! Oh, Germans would kill to enjoy the luxury of being in your position! Nothing Germans like more than to accuse themselves and shouldering the responsibility for all evils in the world. We envy you!

Thank God we have the holocaust, but it slowly starts to feel worn out, you see...

I have not heard about changing names in reports, but I would not put it past our media at all. It is common practice to call everyone a Swede in the reporting. If they don't have a Swedish citizenship yet, it's most often just a "man" or a "person".

We have the same self-harm fetisch as you do in Germany. And we are repeatedly told we have no inherent culture that can be called Swedish. As our former PM Reinfeld said: "Ursvenskt är bara barbariet. Resten av utvecklingen har kommit utifrån." Tran: "The purely Swedish culture is just barbarism. The rest of the developments [of the Swedish culture] comes from abroad".

It is self flagellation of the highest order. We are apparently an inherently racist nation if the left wing parties are to be believed. Which in some ways might be entirely correct, but not quite in the way those making such assertions intend. It turns out that studies show that those claiming that neighborhoods and schools benefit from multi-culturalism are the first to leave when the ratio of children with non-EU backgrounds grows above a certain level at their kids schools. The same happens when their own neighbourhoods sees a contingent of migrants moving in. I'll see if I can find the study and link it.

It's quite obvious that we don't really have a good plan for handling what is happening right now. Our politicians probably prefer to hide rather than dealing with the current erosion of trust occurring in Sweden right now. Trust is disappearing between the people and the politicians as well as between citizens. A high level of trust is one of the pillars that built what was a very successful and prosperous society. What no-one here really wants to admit, is that we could only build this society because we were a homogeneous nation. Not necessarily in terms of skin colour, but rather in attitudes. That is slipping away at an alarming rate at the moment.

Read Douglas Murray's The Strange Death of Europe. An excellent read.

07-20-17, 05:42 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,611 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Pussycats (Weicheier) https://www.amazon.com/Pussycats-Res...4&sr=8-1-spell I just finished reading this book in its German translation. Wowh, I just say wowh, and I add: chapeau! That somebody dares to point out these things and speak them out in such clarity, is impressive. He seems to have a hot wire linked into my soul. And I have not even been a soldier ever. How must real pros feel about this book? He just got it right. Its not the first book by him I have read, and they all were very competently written, and very good. To say that in Germany he simply is hated, is not exaggeration. And as far as I know he is not liked in Israal either, for he points out the extreme vulnerability of Israel's strategic longterm position. The German edition is here: https://www.amazon.de/Wir-Weicheier-...ds=van+creveld __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-22-17, 04:04 AM	#2
daft Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 493 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I need to take a good look at this one. Also, his Command in War looks very interesting too. Also, I haven't read anuthing by Creveld yet, why is he so hated in Germany specifically? __________________ And God said: \"Let there be Narrowband!\" Last edited by daft; 07-22-17 at 04:17 AM.

07-22-17, 05:22 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,611 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	1. He is not left enough. 2. He has a realistic view on things. Germans prefer to replace realistic perception with wishful thinking. Germans do not want to be associated with things like military, war, masculinity (this is not to imply that maculinity is a condensate of military or that the military is the only way in wich masculinity manifestate itself). Last two times Creveld was in Germany to hold lectures at university, student mobs sealed of the campus and prevented other students to attend (so much for free speech), Creveld was driven away and even the invitation by one university was in one other case cancelled by the university officials. He could not speak. Creveld is one of the most influential and profound military historians of the present. I know some of his other books, too. Namely "Fighting Power" is a brilliant analysis of the competences and deficits of the German Wehrmacht and the US army in WWII, but though very competent it is a bit dry to read. I also can only recommend "The Culture of War". Most of his other books seem to be more specifically focussed on certain aspects of war and military: logistics, or air strategy. I do not know these. If matter like this interests you, I have another author for you, John Keegan. "The history of warfare" reflects - amongst other aspects touched by the author - the warrior's mentality and its changes over the different eras of history. In Israel he is not liked becasue he does not save Israel from telling it that its strategic position is so vulnerable and exposed over the long run that its ongoing existence in the long perspective is highly questionable. van Creveld is no rightwinger or hidden Nazi (what he also was accused of already, despite the fact that he is Jew and Israeli citizen, he just has a very competent background in data and knowledge and he refuses to censor his logical concusions on the grounds of demands from mainstream opinion manipulators. In Germany dsiagreeing with the left Zeitgeist is enough to label you as a Nazi, rightwinger, X-Y-Z-phobic. Rational and independent thought today is an arch sin. You have to think with the crowd: feminstic, gender-correct, socialistic, servile to the paternalistic nanny-state. I currently read a German book by a German author, about the relation of the devasted German national soul the German craving for self-denial, and the Jewish present generation refusing to play the part the German selfhaters have reserved for them in their distorted world view. Every nanny needs a baby that agrees to polay the part of the helpelss little thing in need of beign nursed and lectured and educated, and if the entity chosen for that role denies to play that part, like young Jews do regarding Germany, than the anny will never forgive this loss of control and power this refusal means. The book is so much in violation of the German self-hating cult that several book shops and the nation's primary besteseller list by Der Spiegel censored it and deleted it from the lists and selling displays. The author again does not comply with the Zeitgeist and the mainstream opinion that is wanted over here, and meanwhile, at the age of 60-something, committed suicide, probably in resignation and disgust. The book is briliant in language and lasersharp and unforgivable in thought. And yes, they labelled it as Nazi-propaganda. Everybody agreeing with that, obviously has not read it carefully enough. R.P. Sieferle: Finis Germania. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 07-22-17 at 05:42 AM.

07-22-17, 12:12 PM	#4
daft Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 493 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	You seem to have much of the same issues in Germany as we do in Sweden. I would love to expand on this later tonight as I'm ln the move and trying to type on the phone. Very informative post, so thanks. __________________ And God said: \"Let there be Narrowband!\"

07-22-17, 01:28 PM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,611 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I do not know much about Sweden, but whatever I heard from it about migration and Islamization, sounds awfully bad. Is it true that Muslim migrants now get Swedish original names so that media and the public cannot differentiate them from original Swedes anymore when there are new reports about... events...? I read that just a couple of days ago somewhere. So far I only knew that laws forbid media the mentioning of suspect first names names in case of police investigations, so that not only their identity but also their origin gets hidden. To actively hiding the origin of a foreigner by not mentioning his first name when he sees the police investigating charges against him, to providing him a deceptive identity to not reveal to the public the link between migration and certain forms of crime where migrants are overrepresented by several factors - that is an escalation with potential, if it is true. You should export it to the rest of Europe. Oh wait, they already do it... So in the near future we will not see Muslim migrants raping Swedish women and letting the rate of rapes exploding over the past couple of years, but it will be more and more "Swedish men" raping Swedish women. That sounds more normal for Western standards now! There is additional charm in this. When Swedes rape Swedes, not migrants raping Swedes, it is a good reason for Swedes to feel bad and accuse themselves, since it is "us Swedish men raping Swedish women" then. So good an opportunity to think bad of yourself and bow deeper to get spanked! Oh, Germans would kill to enjoy the luxury of being in your position! Nothing Germans like more than to accuse themselves and shouldering the responsibility for all evils in the world. We envy you! Thank God we have the holocaust, but it slowly starts to feel worn out, you see... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.