Is the Age of the Submarine Over?

Onkel Neal · 02-17-17, 06:47 AM

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The Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (CSBA) analyst and retired U.S. Navy commander postulates that a technological revolution is about to overtake undersea warfare, rendering the wine-dark sea transparent to hostile antisubmarine (ASW) forces for the first time. This would be a bad thing from the standpoint of U.S. naval mastery.

This article hints at technologies that could imperil the submarine as an undetectable force, but I think we are still along way from it.

Jimbuna · 02-17-17, 06:57 AM

Looks like the UK are currently leading in the race to do away with submarines

Platapus · 02-17-17, 06:08 PM

Are any other weapon systems obsolete and useless be cause they can be seen? No.

Seeing is not the same as fighting.

If this should happen, the role and use of submarines will probably change to adapt to the battlespace environment, but that can be said about pretty much any weapon system.

Carl of Psionics · 02-17-17, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Is the Age of the Submarine Over?

This article hints at technologies that could imperil the submarine as an undetectable force, but I think we are still along way from it.

Thanks, Onkel Neal mate.

PacificSwordsman · 02-18-17, 02:51 AM

No way, no how.

Rockstar · 02-18-17, 10:42 AM

Underwater warfare is changing but its not going away and neither are submarines. But it could be said the construction and use of manned submarines as a primary delivery system is being reconsidered.

Also , its well known NOAA and police use LIDAR but nothing on how the military is using it for the detection of underwater objects. Inquiring minds want to know

ikalugin · 02-18-17, 10:54 AM

It is like with tanks or other major military equipment items. They are not going obsolete, it is just that they are going sufficiently expensive to preclude small wealthy countries from operating them in numbers.

Mr Quatro · 02-18-17, 12:14 PM

The USA could always just claim the Gulf of ALaska and stay within it's boundaries while preventing any other country from fishing or transiting the area.

Trump's the man that can do it ... He can do anything

Oberon · 02-20-17, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Underwater warfare is changing but its not going away and neither are submarines. But it could be said the construction and use of manned submarines as a primary delivery system is being reconsidered.

Also , its well known NOAA and police use LIDAR but nothing on how the military is using it for the detection of underwater objects. Inquiring minds want to know

Agreed, the manned part of warfare is being radically altered. There will always be a need for the PBI, but all of their support equipment is becoming automated, and they themselves will have advancements, be it genetic or bio-mechanical, in the not so far future. Exo-skeletons are pretty much beginning to arrive now, which means they'll probably find a way to make the PBI carry even more crap on their back.
Slowly the human is being taken out of warfare...and if I'm honest...I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or not.

02-17-17, 06:57 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Looks like the UK are currently leading in the race to do away with submarines __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Are any other weapon systems obsolete and useless be cause they can be seen? No. Seeing is not the same as fighting. If this should happen, the role and use of submarines will probably change to adapt to the battlespace environment, but that can be said about pretty much any weapon system. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Underwater warfare is changing but its not going away and neither are submarines. But it could be said the construction and use of manned submarines as a primary delivery system is being reconsidered. Also , its well known NOAA and police use LIDAR but nothing on how the military is using it for the detection of underwater objects. Inquiring minds want to know Last edited by Rockstar; 02-18-17 at 10:54 AM.

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ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	It is like with tanks or other major military equipment items. They are not going obsolete, it is just that they are going sufficiently expensive to preclude small wealthy countries from operating them in numbers. __________________ Grumpy as always.

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Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The USA could always just claim the Gulf of ALaska and stay within it's boundaries while preventing any other country from fishing or transiting the area. Trump's the man that can do it ... He can do anything __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

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PacificSwordsman Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	No way, no how.