Is war between cops and citizens brewing?

[Torplexed]

Geeezus, it's been a bad week in the US.

First, the police shooting of a black man in Baton Rogue who appears in video to have been already bodily pinned down by the cops.

Then, the death of a black motorist in Minnesota by an officer after being pulled over for a broken tail light. Most of it streamed live by the dying motorist's girlfriend

Now four cops dead in Dallas in what appears to be coordinated sniper attack during a Black Lives Matter rally. A total of 11 officers shot during the protests.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/us/phi...sts/index.html

Going from bad to worse. It feels like were sitting on a powder keg these days.

[em2nought]

Haven't they heard in Dallas? There are no guilty democrats.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

It feels like were sitting on a powder keg these days.

I think you pretty much are.

[Skybird]

Racism cannot be declared "over" by legislation. Statistics speak a clear language since long time. What seems to happen now is a radicalization of both sides: civil society, and police.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Going from bad to worse. It feels like were sitting on a powder keg these days.

Sadly, I have to agree.

*le sigh*

Ah yes, the secret genocide against the poor, harmless and peaceful black population of America continues. Damn all these racist cops (so all of them) who shoot more white people than black people... wait what? Oh!

But don't get facts in the way while you're rioting again, trashing your city, causing more violence, because the evil white man is after you.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

*le sigh*

Ah yes, the secret genocide against the poor, harmless and peaceful black population of America continues. Damn all these racist cops (so all of them) who shoot more white people than black people... wait what? Oh!

But don't get facts in the way while you're rioting again, trashing your city, causing more violence, because the evil white man is after you.

You seem to be painting an entire race with the same brush. Video evidence is pretty hard to discredit. One video shows a police officer shooting an unarmed man in the back 7-8 times for a traffic pull over. His race doesn't matter at all. He was a black man though.
Of course, there are many who live in the U.S who have a better understanding and perspective than someone who lives an ocean away.

By the way, the President of the U.S who happens to be black has acknowledged there is a problem with selective law enforcement. I think he has a better understanding of this issue as well.

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

You seem to be painting an entire race with the same brush.

No, I do not, but most of the black people in the US are in the very same situation: Living in lowest conditions, in poverty, surrounded by (black) violence.
But statistics don't really support the "black victim role", do they?
Also, many black people act as if "the white people" are on the hunt for them - might want to tell them what you just told me.

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Video evidence is pretty hard to discredit. One video shows a police officer shooting an unarmed man in the back 7-8 times for a traffic pull over.

And that's totally sick, let's hope the guy gets what he deserves? What's the issue?

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Of course, there are many who live in the U.S who have a better understanding and perspective than someone who lives an ocean away.

Possibly. Just living there doesn't necessarily make one an expert on the matter. I could be on Mars and still read articles that point out some inconsistencies here and that generalizing the cops as "evil racist killers" is a no-brainer,
especially when more white people die to police actions than black people and that the very most black people die at the hand of black people.
And what about this:

 

The problem isn't racism.
Yes there are some racist cops, of course there are.
But if you think that every racist cop is automatically a cold blooded lunatic killer - like many black communities claim, you're a tad naive, don't you think?
And mind you I'm talking the general issue here - not a particular case.

Looks like Paul Watson made a video about the whole thing.
For those interested:

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

*le sigh*

Ah yes, the secret genocide against the poor, harmless and peaceful black population of America continues. Damn all these racist cops (so all of them) who shoot more white people than black people... wait what? Oh!

But don't get facts in the way while you're rioting again, trashing your city, causing more violence, because the evil white man is after you.

As far as a " Secret Genocide " against blacks, the facts support that racial profiling and selective enforcement exists. I think if you were black in the U.S, you would have a right to be concerned about your safety and well being. I can certainly understand why black people would feel they are under siege. Again, the President of the U.S has acknowledged there is a problem.

As far as poor black people, you are misinformed. I knew of many black people I went to college with or were professors and administrators. Many of them today are highly regarded professionals in their own right. Some of the officers in question were also black that committed these crimes which indicates this is a much larger issue than white on black.

Racism may well be behind all of these issues or at the least, play a role.

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

No, I do not, but most of the black people in the US are in the very same situation: Living in lowest conditions, in poverty, surrounded by (black) violence.
But statistics don't really support the "black victim role", do they?
Also, many black people act as if "the white people" are on the hunt for them - might want to tell them what you just told me.
And that's totally sick, let's hope the guy gets what he deserves? What's the issue?

Possibly. Just living there doesn't necessarily make one an expert on the matter. I could be on Mars and still read articles that point out some inconsistencies here and that generalizing the cops as "evil racist killers" is a no-brainer,
especially when more white people die to police actions than black people and that the very most black people die at the hand of black people.
And what about this:

 

The problem isn't racism.
Yes there are some racist cops, of course there are.
But if you think that every racist cop is automatically a cold blooded lunatic killer - like many black communities claim, you're a tad naive, don't you think?
And mind you I'm talking the general issue here - not a particular case.

Looks like Paul Watson made a video about the whole thing.
For those interested:

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

*le sigh*

Ah yes, the secret genocide against the poor, harmless and peaceful black population of America continues. Damn all these racist cops (so all of them) who shoot more white people than black people... wait what? Oh!

But don't get facts in the way while you're rioting again, trashing your city, causing more violence, because the evil white man is after you.

Seems to be the narrative.

I'm trying to fathom why the girlfriend was more interested in FB'ing the video instead of assisting her boyfriend. Further, what transpired before the officer pulled the trigger? There will be conflicting stories. But, at the end of the day, the young man is dead. Should not have happened IMO.

[Mittelwaechter]

Is war between cops and citizens brewing?

Would the slaves at the plantation revolt against the foremen with the whips or against the plantation owner?

Who would be served first?

[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I'm trying to fathom why the girlfriend was more interested in FB'ing the video instead of assisting her boyfriend.

Maybe because the cop had just pumped 4 rounds into her boyfriend. If she had reached over to help him the cop would have interpreted it as she was going for her BF's gun and shot her too.

[mapuc]

This story makes me sad, sad that 5 Innocent policemen had to pay with they life.

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by August

Maybe because the cop had just pumped 4 rounds into her boyfriend. If she had reached over to help him the cop would have interpreted it as she was going for her BF's gun and shot her too.

Yes, so lets video, talk about it while it happens then upload to FB instead. Is it just me or does that kind of ruin the idea of getting shot attempting to help the dying man? I think it was one shot. But that is immaterial. I truly think the cop had simply killed this man with zero justification.