Presidential debate October 18th Las Vegas

Mr Quatro · 10-17-16, 10:39 PM

This thread is not about the election ... it is just about the Presidential debate in Lad Vegas Wednesday night October 18th.

Just a poll of sorts ... mods can close it after the debate.

Do you think this last debate will increase the point gap Hillary has or decrease the point gap? or will it put Donald Trump in the lead or will it stay about the same which is 47% Hillary to 43% Trump by ABC polls and even 11 point difference in the NBC polls

or make the two even closer to an already crazy national election?

Takeda Shingen · 10-17-16, 10:56 PM

Might want to remake the poll so that you can only select one option.

Mr Quatro · 10-17-16, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bears

Might want to remake the poll so that you can only select one option.

I don't know how to do that, but your right ... can Steve or Jim do that?

Oberon · 10-17-16, 11:50 PM

I think Trump will close the gap, providing he's able to dodge any more disastrous past mistakes coming up to haunt him before it does. But it's probably not going to be enough, if he was going to turn this ship around it would have to have been done in the last debate, and he made an effort but it just wasn't enough. I mean, I have to give him his due in the last debate, he didn't flip out, but he did drop enough soundbites to be used against him, promising to jail Hillary for example, which coupled with the Make America Grope Again campaign, it was enough to give the point to Hillary, especially when a great deal of his own party were deserting him, and he threw his own running mate under the bus as well. I maintain that if he had gone worse that debate then Pence would have handed in the towel, but he managed to see it through, and land some good solid hits on Hillary, so Pence stayed clinging to the mast.
So unless he wins this debate by an absolute blinder, or Hillary gets a slight cold, then I don't think it'll matter, but...again...Dewey vs Truman, so, who can be sure.

Torplexed · 10-18-16, 12:03 AM

Will Donald even show up if Hillary doesn't take the pre-debate drug test he demanded? Apparently, the drugs work in conjunction with the Parkinson-suppressing, back-straightening, cough-fixing, quick answer-giving apparatus she wears under her pantsuit, so she certainly needs them.

Catfish · 10-18-16, 03:09 AM

I keep asking myself the same questions again and again.

- Why is there no other candidate than those two?
- How is it possible that an obviously crazy candidate even gets so far - in a "democracy"?
(then thinking of Bush senior and Bush junior ... were there no other candidates, so that just of all the son of a forner president becomes the new one ?? This looks more like a royal descendence, than an election)
- Why is H. Clinton so absolutely hated (apart from the republicans who automatically hate everything democratic), i mean there are other US presidents who got away with much worse stuff
- Is this even a democracy or is it not like the good old middle-ages-feudal "election" system, where the nobles/rich elected their leader -> "Kurfuersten"-system
- So there are only two parties, which now even have become one fraction?
- Is there no rational reasonable person who can do better, as a new president for America?
- Why do republicans (but maybe not only) always talk of tyranny, accusing the president of not leaving when the period is over - not one president in the US has ever remained in place, after the period he was elected for.

?

Apart from that i think (personal opinion) that Obama has been the most reasonable and intelligent president of the US, since a long time. I still wonder how it was possible that he was elected.

August · 10-18-16, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

promising to jail Hillary for example

He didn't promise to jail her. That's just the corporate medias pro-hillary spin on it. He said he would have his AG appoint an independent council to look into it. The "You'd be in jail" comment was referring to the fact that it's pretty obvious to anyone not already drinking the Democrats Koolaid that had Obama administration not put the fix in she quite likely would be prosecuted and jailed for mishandling classified material like everybody else does.

Oberon · 10-18-16, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by August

He didn't promise to jail her. That's just the corporate medias pro-hillary spin on it. He said he would have his AG appoint an independent council to look into it. The "You'd be in jail" comment was referring to the fact that it's pretty obvious to anyone not already drinking the Democrats Koolaid that had Obama administration not put the fix in she quite likely would be prosecuted and jailed for mishandling classified material like everybody else does.

There's a lot of kool-aid being drunk around here, and it's not just democrats drinking it.
Quite frankly, if you're having to decipher and put in special clauses to what a candidate is saying then the candidate should not be saying it. Trump is a gold mine to spin, and you can blame the 'liberal media' and all the other Alex Jones boogey-men if you like, but at the end of the day Donald Trump is a very poor candidate for President, even more so than Hillary Clinton, to the point where the party that he's running for is regretting deeply everything that has happened. Now, you can say that this is exactly what you want to happen, that you want the 'establishment'™ to be shaken up, but quite frankly the only thing it has shaken up has been the Republican Party and it's damn near broken it. If you wanted to make the GOP even more toxic, then congratulations, electing Donald Trump to be its representative for President has done it.

Jimbuna · 10-18-16, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

I don't know how to do that, but your right ... can Steve or Jim do that?

I've been into the edit function and don't see a way of changing the poll voting criteria. It may be the case that said criteria can't be changed.

You could always PM Neal.

Mr Quatro · 10-22-16, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

This thread is not about the election ... it is just about the Presidential debate in Lad Vegas Wednesday night October 18th.

Just a poll of sorts ... mods can close it after the debate.

Okay with me Steve or Jim ... you can close this thread about the last debate now. It has run it's course and finished the race.

View Poll Results: Will this last presidential debate make a difference?
Do you think this last debate will increase the point gap Hillary?has	4	40.00%
Do you think Trump will draw closer to Hillary's point gap?	5	50.00%
Do you think Hillary will win the debate and lose the election?	1	10.00%
Do you think Donald will win the debate and lose the election?	4	40.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 10. You may not vote on this poll

10-17-16, 10:39 PM	#1
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Presidential debate October 18th Las Vegas This thread is not about the election ... it is just about the Presidential debate in Lad Vegas Wednesday night October 18th. Just a poll of sorts ... mods can close it after the debate. Do you think this last debate will increase the point gap Hillary has or decrease the point gap? or will it put Donald Trump in the lead or will it stay about the same which is 47% Hillary to 43% Trump by ABC polls and even 11 point difference in the NBC polls or make the two even closer to an already crazy national election? __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

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Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Will Donald even show up if Hillary doesn't take the pre-debate drug test he demanded? Apparently, the drugs work in conjunction with the Parkinson-suppressing, back-straightening, cough-fixing, quick answer-giving apparatus she wears under her pantsuit, so she certainly needs them. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,765 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I keep asking myself the same questions again and again. - Why is there no other candidate than those two? - How is it possible that an obviously crazy candidate even gets so far - in a "democracy"? (then thinking of Bush senior and Bush junior ... were there no other candidates, so that just of all the son of a forner president becomes the new one ?? This looks more like a royal descendence, than an election) - Why is H. Clinton so absolutely hated (apart from the republicans who automatically hate everything democratic), i mean there are other US presidents who got away with much worse stuff - Is this even a democracy or is it not like the good old middle-ages-feudal "election" system, where the nobles/rich elected their leader -> "Kurfuersten"-system - So there are only two parties, which now even have become one fraction? - Is there no rational reasonable person who can do better, as a new president for America? - Why do republicans (but maybe not only) always talk of tyranny, accusing the president of not leaving when the period is over - not one president in the US has ever remained in place, after the period he was elected for. ? Apart from that i think (personal opinion) that Obama has been the most reasonable and intelligent president of the US, since a long time. I still wonder how it was possible that he was elected. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

10-17-16, 10:56 PM	#2
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Might want to remake the poll so that you can only select one option.

10-17-16, 11:50 PM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I think Trump will close the gap, providing he's able to dodge any more disastrous past mistakes coming up to haunt him before it does. But it's probably not going to be enough, if he was going to turn this ship around it would have to have been done in the last debate, and he made an effort but it just wasn't enough. I mean, I have to give him his due in the last debate, he didn't flip out, but he did drop enough soundbites to be used against him, promising to jail Hillary for example, which coupled with the Make America Grope Again campaign, it was enough to give the point to Hillary, especially when a great deal of his own party were deserting him, and he threw his own running mate under the bus as well. I maintain that if he had gone worse that debate then Pence would have handed in the towel, but he managed to see it through, and land some good solid hits on Hillary, so Pence stayed clinging to the mast. So unless he wins this debate by an absolute blinder, or Hillary gets a slight cold, then I don't think it'll matter, but...again...Dewey vs Truman, so, who can be sure.