Negative renown

Nightmare1886 · 10-25-16, 08:44 AM

Sorry if this was previously brought up and i didn't see it.. So, i was patrolling the south Mediteranean in my 27th patrol and came across a total of 10 ships.. 6 merchants and 4 frigates (3 small convoys).. Managed to sink all of them and then i was navigating all happy back to base in Salamis expecting a huge renown result coming back.. So i dock at base and gaze in horror a -135 renown hit.. No neutral ships sunk no nothing.. Before leaving port at the start of my mission a Greek Trawler was in a firefight with an Italian sub close to base so i fired with my deck gun until the Trawler was sunk but the Italian sub got sunk too..Could this be the case? If it is, it's pretty stupid.. What the hell was i supposed to do? Had this ever happened to anyone else?

Sailor Steve · 10-25-16, 10:30 AM

Renown goes to the unit that fires the final, killing shot. Many times players have reported damaged ships being stolen by Luftwaffe bombers. You probably put the last hit on the Italian sub, so you got docked. As to why all the ships you sank didn't register, I don't have a clue.

What are you supposed to do? Sink the enemy trawler of course, but unrealistically let him finish of the friendly first. Of course that goes out the window if they're attacking a friendly destroyer or larger, but in that case the enemy will probably be larger too, and require a torpedo.

It really depends on the situation.

VikingGrandad · 10-25-16, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare1886

Before leaving port at the start of my mission a Greek Trawler was in a firefight with an Italian sub close to base so i fired with my deck gun until the Trawler was sunk but the Italian sub got sunk too..Could this be the case? If it is, it's pretty stupid.. What the hell was i supposed to do? Had this ever happened to anyone else?

Are you using any major mods, such as GWX3, LSH3, etc.?

If you're not using any mods, then I wonder if the above scenario is a bug in the stock game. What you described above is quite an unusual scenario, so it wouldn't surprise me if the particular variables you encountered together created a situation the SH3 devs didn't have time to test/fix (the game has quite a few bugs which the final official patch [1.4b] didn't fix, because - if I remember correctly - Ubisoft didn't give them enough time to test/fix everything).

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Negative Renown AFAIK will be down to sinking a neutral ship.
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Nightmare1886 · 10-26-16, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

You probably put the last hit on the Italian sub, so you got docked.

No no no.. I engaged with my deck gun (getting a beating from the trawler, because apparently with the GWX enemy warships have aimbot or something) and immidiately when the message appeared -She's going down, i returned to course.. So i'm looking at the map with time compression at 1024 and after 4-5 seconds i see a blue ship mark on the map being sunk, it was the Italian sub.. I don't know man...

Nightmare1886 · 10-26-16, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VikingGrandad

Are you using any major mods, such as GWX3, LSH3, etc.?

If you're not using any mods, then I wonder if the above scenario is a bug in the stock game. What you described above is quite an unusual scenario, so it wouldn't surprise me if the particular variables you encountered together created a situation the SH3 devs didn't have time to test/fix (the game has quite a few bugs which the final official patch [1.4b] didn't fix, because - if I remember correctly - Ubisoft didn't give them enough time to test/fix everything).

I'm using GWX 3.0 with some really minor mods (sound etc).. Got really confused by that patrol.. I didn't land the killing blow on the Italian sub and sunk 10 ships in that patrol.. Including 4 frigates.. So i guess even if the game was to penalize me for the Italian sub i still wouldn't get a nevative renown with all that tonnage (and especially warship tonnage).

Shadowblade · 10-26-16, 09:29 PM

IIRC sinking friendly ship means serious (-10x its renown value) penalty, so it could outweigh the positive renown from sinking of the allied ships

10-25-16, 08:44 AM	#1
Nightmare1886 Nub Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 3 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Negative renown Sorry if this was previously brought up and i didn't see it.. So, i was patrolling the south Mediteranean in my 27th patrol and came across a total of 10 ships.. 6 merchants and 4 frigates (3 small convoys).. Managed to sink all of them and then i was navigating all happy back to base in Salamis expecting a huge renown result coming back.. So i dock at base and gaze in horror a -135 renown hit.. No neutral ships sunk no nothing.. Before leaving port at the start of my mission a Greek Trawler was in a firefight with an Italian sub close to base so i fired with my deck gun until the Trawler was sunk but the Italian sub got sunk too..Could this be the case? If it is, it's pretty stupid.. What the hell was i supposed to do? Had this ever happened to anyone else? Last edited by Onkel Neal; 10-25-16 at 10:16 AM. Reason: nothing major, just removed **word carry on

10-25-16, 10:30 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Renown goes to the unit that fires the final, killing shot. Many times players have reported damaged ships being stolen by Luftwaffe bombers. You probably put the last hit on the Italian sub, so you got docked. As to why all the ships you sank didn't register, I don't have a clue. What are you supposed to do? Sink the enemy trawler of course, but unrealistically let him finish of the friendly first. Of course that goes out the window if they're attacking a friendly destroyer or larger, but in that case the enemy will probably be larger too, and require a torpedo. It really depends on the situation. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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