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Old 01-04-15, 04:38 PM   #1
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Them ol' Southern salt marshes-old ways there R not forgot...

Came across this in today's paper; Strictly under:" remove the log from your own eye before removing the speck from dear leader kims' eye"...MOST DISTURBING in a democratic military ally who's only excuse is: "well that's just how it is" http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/living-hell-disabled-slaves-south-korean-islands-27952337 ..."Slavery thrives on rural islands off South Korea's rugged southwest coast, nurtured by a long history of exploitation and the demands of trying to squeeze a living from the sea.
Two-thirds of South Korea's sea salt is produced at more than 850 salt farms on dozens of islands in Sinan County, including Sinui island, where half the 2,200 residents work in the industry. Workers spend grueling days managing a complex network of waterways, hoses and storage areas.
Five times during the last decade, revelations of slavery involving the disabled have emerged. Kim's case prompted a nationwide government probe of thousands of farms and disabled facilities that found more than 100 workers who'd received no, or scant, pay.
Yet little has changed on the islands, according to a months-long investigation by the AP based on court and police documents and dozens of interviews with freed slaves, salt farmers, villagers and officials.
Although 50 island farm owners and regional job brokers were indicted, national police say no local police or officials will face punishment, despite multiple interviews showing some knew about the slaves and even stopped escape attempts.
Soon after the national investigation, activists and police found another 63 unpaid or underpaid workers on the islands, three-quarters of whom were mentally disabled." ...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2894429/South-Korea-s-dark-secret-Remote-islands-families-send-mentally-disabled-relatives-work-slaves-salt-farms.html (better pics)
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Old 01-05-15, 05:58 AM   #2
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I guess this lends much credence to the term... "going to work in the salt mines"
It's despicable and it's happened here in America too, so, South Korea isn't alone in this dastardly practice of human exploitation.

They had best mind their P's & Q's or else we might decide to leave them on their own up on the 38th parallel. Which would result in a DPRK annexation of their entire population into slavery to Little Kim and his ilk.
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I seriously doubt the North has the military means to overpower the South militarily....without Chinese assistance of course.
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I guess this lends much credence to the term... "going to work in the salt mines"
It's despicable and it's happened here in America too, so, South Korea isn't alone in this dastardly practice of human exploitation.

They had best mind their P's & Q's or else we might decide to leave them on their own up on the 38th parallel. Which would result in a DPRK annexation of their entire population into slavery to Little Kim and his ilk.

Ahh, but it still happens here in the U.S. and it's completely acceptable and legal in todays society. In 2013 there were somewhere around 6 million slaves in the U.S. workin for or under the supervision of the man.

The Thirteenth Amendment abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.
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I've been following this grim tale of the sea for a while now. For those of you who love Walmart Calimari...SHAME! http://newsok.com/myanmar-ex-slave-those-with-sympathy-would-not-eat-our-fish/article/feed/891362 http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/09/18/after-5-year-slavery-ordeal-in-indonesia-teen-myanmar-fisherman-finds-himself/ In this Sept. 8, 2015 photo, a Burmese fisherman receives his salary before leaving the port town of Ambon, Maluku province, Indonesia. More than 2,000 fishermen have been rescued this year from brutal conditions at sea, their freedom prompted by an Associated Press investigation into seafood brought to the U.S. from a slave island in eastern Indonesia. Dozens of Burmese men in the bustling port town of Ambon were the latest to go home, some more than a decade after being trafficked onto Thai trawlers. http://www.sfgate.com/news/world/article/More-than-2-000-enslaved-fishermen-rescued-in-6-6510355.php#photo-8645542
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I dug a hole, put a liner in it, filled it with water, added a pump, threw some fingerlings in, and basically a few years later I pulled 80 lbs of tilapia out of my koi pond. I don't exactly see why we have to get fish from half way around the world ? It seems a mystery to me.

South Korea should hope that the north doesn't figure out the "let the whole population immigrate" thing.
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Ahh, but it still happens here in the U.S. and it's completely acceptable and legal in todays society. In 2013 there were somewhere around 6 million slaves in the U.S. workin for or under the supervision of the man.

The Thirteenth Amendment abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.
Surely you're not comparing the barely moving convicts that I see every day picking up trash along the highway with real slaves are you?
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The history and current government structure of South Korea revels that it is a better country only in comparison to North Korea.
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Surely you're not comparing the barely moving convicts that I see every day picking up trash along the highway with real slaves are you?
Oh, the humanity!
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Oh, the humanity!
And just to be sure someone doesn't try to twist that quote, it's in regard to prisoners being given the choice to work or not. It has nothing to do with actual slavery which I have no use for. Well, I'd take a sex slave if she offered herself to me, so mostly against.
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Damn those convicts, coming over here and fighting those wildfires:

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Icon9 JUSTICE PREVAILS...maybe

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I've been following this grim tale of the sea for a while now. For those of you who love Walmart Calimari...SHAME!
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Five Thai fishing-boat captains and three Indonesians were sentenced Thursday to three years in jail for human trafficking in connection with slavery in the seafood industry.
The suspects were arrested in May in the remote island village of Benjina after the abuse was revealed by The Associated Press in a report two months earlier. The men were tried separately in Tual, an island in southeastern Maluku province, about 1,800 miles east of Jakarta.
The three-judge panel also ordered the defendants to pay fines of about $12,250 each or serve two more months in jail. In addition, the Thai captains -- Youngyut Nitiwongchaeron, Boonsom Jaika, Surachai Maneephong, Hatsaphon Phaetjakreng and Somchit Korraneesuk -- have to pay a total of $67,800 in compensation to their crew members.
"They all have been proven guilty of violating the anti-human trafficking law," said Edi Toto Purba, who led the panel. "They deserve the jail sentences as well as the fine."
http://www.semissourian.com/story/2285297.html Well I can order shrimp again guilt free! ( America is the No. 1 purchaser of Thai fish products, including tuna and shrimp. In 2011, Thai frozen and fresh exports to the US were valued at $1.8 billion.)
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The men said they were deceived by labor brokers, who promised work and then sold them to the ships’ senior crew. On board they said they were detained against their will and regularly beaten.
Two of the men reported seeing at least five fellow migrant workers tortured, killed, and thrown over board for trying to escape. Another man said he saw multiple bodies tossed out to sea by crew members, who forced workers to watch as they beat them to death.
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"We were shocked by the extreme levels of violence inflicted on and witnessed by migrant men held as captive workers on these boats,” said Steve Trent, executive director of EJF in a statement. “This is not an isolated case, but indicative of the widespread acceptance and use of modern slavery in an industry that feeds a global appetite for seafood."
On second thought: I'll just have New Zealand lamb ribs tonight for my birthday dinner! It's a real bummer to sit in any restaurant, anywhere on Earth, wondering who really paid the price for your supper...
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In todays news: What lies 2 sell dead fish! http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/08/foreign-fishermen-confined-to-boats-catch-hawaiian-seafood.html
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Hawaii's high-quality seafood is sold with the promise that it's caught by local, hard-working fishermen. But the people who haul in the prized catch are almost all undocumented foreign workers, confined to American boats for years at a time without basic rights or protections.
About 700 men from impoverished Southeast Asian and Pacific Island nations make up the bulk of the workforce in this unique U.S. fishing fleet. A federal loophole allows them to take the dangerous jobs without proper work permits, just as long as they don't set foot on shore.
Americans buying Hawaiian seafood are almost certainly eating fish caught by one of these workers.
A six-month Associated Press investigation found fishing crews living in squalor, paid 70 cents per hour, on some boats, forced to use buckets instead of toilets and suffering running sores from bed bugs. There have been instances of human trafficking, active tuberculosis and low food supplies. Their catch ends up at fancy restaurants and in supermarkets' premium fish counters across the country, including Whole Foods, Costco and Sam's Club.
All companies that responded condemned the mistreatment of workers. Costco said it was investigating. Wal-Mart, which owns Sam's Club, declined to comment.
<In this March 23, 2016, A Honolulu Fish Auction worker receives fish from a U.S. fishing vessel crewed by foreign fishermen at Pier 38 in Honolulu. A single yellowfin tuna can fetch more than $1,000, and vendors market the catch as "sustainable seafood produced by Hawaii’s hard-working fishermen."
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"Ask, where did this fish come from? Is it the kind of fish that you got from someone in slavery?"
Indeed!
Well...there goes my'healthful' ahi tuna burger on sourdough at the local Hamburger Habit till I'm positive the matter is cleared up!
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Icon13 Somethin's fishy in 'Frisco!

Todays headlines: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/09/22/fishermen-slavery-lawsuit-boat-owner-thoai-nguyen/ I occasionally eat at Scoma's now I gotta wonder about who's enslaved out on the boat that brought me dinner??!! http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/23/indonesian-fishermen-who-fled-slavery-in-san-francisco-sue-boat-owner.html
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The lawsuit comes two weeks after an Associated Press investigation found around 140 fishing boats based in Honolulu, including Sea Queen II, were crewed by hundreds of men from impoverished Southeast Asia and Pacific Island nations. The seafood is sold at markets and upscale restaurants across the U.S. A legal loophole allows them to work without visas as long as they don't set foot on shore. The system is facilitated by the U.S. Coast Guard, as well as Customs and Border Protection who require boat owners to hold workers' passports.
AP found some men are paid as little as 70 cents an hour. Others had to use buckets instead of toilets, suffered running sores from bed bugs or sometimes lacked sufficient food.
that this goes on in the world's 10th most powerful economy (California) is mindboggling...oddly enough on the day after the anniversary of Lincoln's announcement of the Emancipation Proclomation! Sept,22 1862: <enlarges (4x) for clear no-bull reading! does not only apply to slaves on land, does not exempt California & and is the Law of Land or 600,000 died for nuthin'!
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