Steam purchase or disks?

Ausprey · 07-13-16, 06:58 PM

Hi guys am new to subsim and just wondering does it matter if I bought SH series 3,4 & 5 on disk or would I have been better to by it through Steam?

Jeff-Groves · 07-13-16, 07:02 PM

Get it on DVD Mate.
I refuse to use Steam myself.

macjim · 07-13-16, 07:26 PM

I have used digital downloads for over a decade with no problems. It's really the same as having a disk. Just that the disc is stored on a server somewhere. GamersGate offers all the SH games. I bought SH3, SH4 and SH5 there, as a bundle for $9. When ever I have needed help I get a real person that gives me attention. I'm pleased.

Steam is massive. Some people have difficulties and you are not as likely to get any help. Fortunately most transactions are trouble free. But write your password down somewhere, I forgot mine once and was locked out of my steam account for 6 months. Wasn't happy.

Oh and I understand that some mods will not work with steam. For example the steam version of SH5 does not support the TDW generic patcher and therefore wont work with the Wolves of Steel Mega Mod.

Summary: I trust several digital download companies but not steam.

Ausprey · 07-13-16, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macjim

Oh and I understand that some mods will not work with steam. For example the steam version of SH5 does not support the TDW generic patcher and therefore wont work with the Wolves of Steel Mega Mod.

Summary: I trust several digital download companies but not steam.

I have a Steam account and checked the forums regarding SH, a lot of ppl were unhappy with their purchase through Steam, is why I opted to purchase the actual disks for SH 3,4 & 5, I guess my real concern was i disadvantaged in any way purchasing the disks, it seems not so thx for your reply, cheers

Reece · 07-13-16, 07:47 PM

Steam sucks!!!

Sailor Steve · 07-13-16, 07:57 PM

After I got my first copy of SH4 I tried to buy the 1.5 upgrade through Steam. They refused to sell it to me. This was eight years ago and they wouldn't sell outside the United States. Who knew that Utah was a foreign country? Well, now that I think about it...

In truth the girl I talked to on the phone did everything she could to help me, so I'd rate their customer service pretty highly. I later got a full copy, on disc, and that's the way I always go now.

Ausprey · 07-13-16, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

After I got my first copy of SH4 I tried to buy the 1.5 upgrade through Steam. They refused to sell it to me. This was eight years ago and they wouldn't sell outside the United States. Who knew that Utah was a foreign country? Well, now that I think about it...

In truth the girl I talked to on the phone did everything she could to help me, so I'd rate their customer service pretty highly. I later got a full copy, on disc, and that's the way I always go now.

Utah.. where's that, just kidding, yeah Steam can be good at times.
Cheers

Jimbuna · 07-14-16, 05:45 AM

Disc, every time.

Mike Abberton · 07-14-16, 08:36 AM

For a game I want to use mods with (like SH), I prefer a disk or a standalone digital download (like from Amazon). I had trouble with Steam trying to patch/repair a SH install, which I think was due to a mod being installed.

For a game which I do not intend to install mods, I have no problem with Steam. The prices are usually good (especially if you can resist getting a brand new game and wait for a sale), and I have a stable internet connection so no trouble staying on line.

Mike

THEBERBSTER · 07-14-16, 12:31 PM

If you want to play SH5 then Steam should NOT be considered an an option.
TDW's Generic File Patcher an essential application to play SH5 does not support Steam.
Downloads you do not own, a dvd disc you do.
Peter

Mittelwaechter · 07-14-16, 06:04 PM

Those youngsters...

You can buy a car for 25 000 or you can have the allowance to drive the car for 25 000. What would you prefer?

Steam can refuse to let you use your steamed car, but you can't refuse to let them spend your money. Sounds fair?

You can sell a bought car, but not a rented one.

But it is hip and trendy, enables you to drive a car immediately, you can ask to drive the car from all over the world (you are constantly all over the world, right?) - and you conformly support the official anti car piracy efforts. That's your duty as a decent citizen.

It is considered to be piracy to drive the car of your friend. You have to buy your own car. No, even better - now you shall buy a license to drive a car, but not the car itself. The control over the car itself - and who is allowed to drive it - shall be not yours anymore. Otherwise it would reduce the profit of the rental system - and this has to be your first priority concern.

Thank you for your cooperation - especially in the name of our shareholders.

Reece · 07-14-16, 07:00 PM

In other words Steam sucks!!

Ausprey · 07-14-16, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

In other words Steam sucks!!

yeah I heard u the first time

Ausprey · 07-14-16, 09:05 PM

[QUOTE=Mittelwaechter;2418828]Those youngsters...

You can buy a car for 25 000 or you can have the allowance to drive the car for 25 000. What would you prefer?

Yes I am aware of Steam's control issues, i was wondering wether i was disadvantaged by buying the discs ie updates/downloads etc.

Ausprey · 07-14-16, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

If you want to play SH5 then Steam should be considered an an option.
TDW's Generic File Patcher an essential application to play SH5 does not support Steam.
Downloads you do not own, a dvd disc you do.
Peter

Thx for your reply and answering my question, much appreciated, cheers

07-13-16, 06:58 PM	#1
Ausprey Watch Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Australia Posts: 21 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Steam purchase or disks? Hi guys am new to subsim and just wondering does it matter if I bought SH series 3,4 & 5 on disk or would I have been better to by it through Steam?

07-13-16, 07:26 PM	#3
macjim Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 47 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Steam is HUGE I have used digital downloads for over a decade with no problems. It's really the same as having a disk. Just that the disc is stored on a server somewhere. GamersGate offers all the SH games. I bought SH3, SH4 and SH5 there, as a bundle for $9. When ever I have needed help I get a real person that gives me attention. I'm pleased. Steam is massive. Some people have difficulties and you are not as likely to get any help. Fortunately most transactions are trouble free. But write your password down somewhere, I forgot mine once and was locked out of my steam account for 6 months. Wasn't happy. Oh and I understand that some mods will not work with steam. For example the steam version of SH5 does not support the TDW generic patcher and therefore wont work with the Wolves of Steel Mega Mod. Summary: I trust several digital download companies but not steam. __________________ macjim

07-13-16, 07:47 PM	#5
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,688 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Steam sucks!!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

07-13-16, 07:57 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	After I got my first copy of SH4 I tried to buy the 1.5 upgrade through Steam. They refused to sell it to me. This was eight years ago and they wouldn't sell outside the United States. Who knew that Utah was a foreign country? Well, now that I think about it... In truth the girl I talked to on the phone did everything she could to help me, so I'd rate their customer service pretty highly. I later got a full copy, on disc, and that's the way I always go now. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-14-16, 05:45 AM	#8
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Disc, every time. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-13-16, 07:02 PM	#2
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Get it on DVD Mate. I refuse to use Steam myself.

07-14-16, 08:36 AM	#9
Mike Abberton Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 135 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	For a game I want to use mods with (like SH), I prefer a disk or a standalone digital download (like from Amazon). I had trouble with Steam trying to patch/repair a SH install, which I think was due to a mod being installed. For a game which I do not intend to install mods, I have no problem with Steam. The prices are usually good (especially if you can resist getting a brand new game and wait for a sale), and I have a stable internet connection so no trouble staying on line. Mike

07-14-16, 12:31 PM	#10
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	If you want to play SH5 then Steam should NOT be considered an an option. TDW's Generic File Patcher an essential application to play SH5 does not support Steam. Downloads you do not own, a dvd disc you do. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM Last edited by THEBERBSTER; 07-15-16 at 04:46 AM.

07-14-16, 06:04 PM	#11
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Those youngsters... You can buy a car for 25 000 or you can have the allowance to drive the car for 25 000. What would you prefer? Steam can refuse to let you use your steamed car, but you can't refuse to let them spend your money. Sounds fair? You can sell a bought car, but not a rented one. But it is hip and trendy, enables you to drive a car immediately, you can ask to drive the car from all over the world (you are constantly all over the world, right?) - and you conformly support the official anti car piracy efforts. That's your duty as a decent citizen. It is considered to be piracy to drive the car of your friend. You have to buy your own car. No, even better - now you shall buy a license to drive a car, but not the car itself. The control over the car itself - and who is allowed to drive it - shall be not yours anymore. Otherwise it would reduce the profit of the rental system - and this has to be your first priority concern. Thank you for your cooperation - especially in the name of our shareholders. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

07-14-16, 07:00 PM	#12
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,688 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	In other words Steam sucks!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

07-14-16, 09:05 PM	#14
Ausprey Watch Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Australia Posts: 21 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	[QUOTE=Mittelwaechter;2418828]Those youngsters... You can buy a car for 25 000 or you can have the allowance to drive the car for 25 000. What would you prefer? Yes I am aware of Steam's control issues, i was wondering wether i was disadvantaged by buying the discs ie updates/downloads etc.