MEP v5 with green water question

jaxa · 07-22-15, 06:38 AM

I'm trying many environmental mods for SH3 looking the for best one (IMHO).
I've found at Plissken incredible site very well known MEP v5 from makman94, but version with green water. MEP thread is unfortunately closed now from unknown reasons for me, so I'd like to ask here. In vanilla version of MEP v5 there is optional mod "stock reflections", but there isn't in MEP v5 with green water pack.
My question - can I merge this mini mod with MEP v5 green water with no problems (with visual sensors for instance)? Do you use green water version of MEP v5? It's better looking for me than stock one, what's your opinion about it? There is no info about that here, even in MEP thread.

Magic1111 · 07-22-15, 08:45 AM

I use the MEP v5 with green water, but without the stock reflection add-on.

What is the difference between reflection that came with the mod, and stock reflection add-on?

Here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...87&postcount=1 on post #1 when I comparison the first two pictures, I don´t see a big difference...?

jaxa · 07-22-15, 10:47 AM

I had the same problem like you - I didn't see any differences between those two screenshots. But take a look at those two pictures closely and you will see that colour of water is slightly different - more inky without stock reflections minimod.
When I enabled MEP v5 with green water and after that stock reflections optional mod I saw it more clear. Don't know why, but MEPv5GW + stock reflections has different colour of water than vanilla MEPv5GW.
Standard MEP v5 (without green water) is too much inky for my taste, I prefer more grey shade, so I decided to choose green water version. MEPv5GW with stock reflections mod is the best for me now.

Magic1111 · 07-22-15, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxa

I had the same problem like you - I didn't see any differences between those two screenshots. But take a look at those two pictures closely and you will see that colour of water is slightly different - more inky without stock reflections minimod.
When I enabled MEP v5 with green water and after that stock reflections optional mod I saw it more clear. Don't know why, but MEPv5GW + stock reflections has different colour of water than vanilla MEPv5GW.
Standard MEP v5 (without green water) is too much inky for my taste, I prefer more grey shade, so I decided to choose green water version. MEPv5GW with stock reflections mod is the best for me now.

Yes, you're right, now I saw a little difference, but not much.

I don´t know if the stock reflection add-on compatible with the GW Version, because there´s no hint in the ReadMe of the GW Version!

fitzcarraldo · 07-22-15, 06:38 PM

If you see the water from UP ("satellite view"), you see a greenish tone in the water. There is some greenish reflections, not too much.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

jaxa · 07-23-15, 03:36 AM

I've made some tests and noticed, that with standard MEP v5 (non green water) and enabled stock reflections minimod colour of water is better for me and not so inky. I don't know if this minimod is compatible with MEP Green Water verson, so try to play with combo: standard MEP v5 + stock reflections minimod.

Magic1111 · 07-23-15, 05:38 AM

A pity that Makman nothing writes about this in this thread....

jaxa · 07-23-15, 06:19 AM

+1

I hope he is working hardly on new MaGUI HAHD, which I'm impatiently waiting for.

Magic1111 · 07-23-15, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxa

I hope he is working hardly on new MaGUI HAHD, which I'm impatiently waiting for.

Yes, I hope this too!

fitzcarraldo · 07-23-15, 07:55 PM

Best MEP v5 for me is with Stock Reflection. It has some greenish reflections I like.

If you want realistic and good looking green water try WAC Real Atlantic mod. There are two versions: 8k and 16k.

Also waiting MaGUI HAHD...

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

jaxa · 07-23-15, 10:27 PM

Where can I download it from? Is there at Plissken's site?
What about compatibility with GWX?

Magic1111 · 07-24-15, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxa

Where can I download it from? Is there at Plissken's site?
What about compatibility with GWX?

I found this on my MediaFire Page:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/7m...antic2v.TP.rar

Try it out!

jaxa · 07-24-15, 06:53 AM

I'll do it, thanks.
How it works with GWX? I'm thinking about visual sensors - no problems with that?

fitzcarraldo · 07-24-15, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxa

I'll do it, thanks.
How it works with GWX? I'm thinking about visual sensors - no problems with that?

No problems with GWX. I use both 8k and 16 k (alternating they with MEPv5 Stock Reflections).

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

makman94 · 07-24-15, 10:21 AM

hello guys,

yes , you can safely (no worries about visual sensors behaviour) use the mini mod with the stock reflections on the MEP with green water.
i didn't made this combi to see the result so i forgot to include it in the pack of the MEP with green water but you can surely try it and see if it fits to your tastes.

tip: it is very easy to make the water as you like during midday, but you need to make some edits at two parts :
1. in skycolors.dat ,edit ('play' with hue , saturation and brightness) the two images at lower left in specular.tga (or else called as reflex_atlantic.tga)
2. in envcolors.dat adjust (at your tastes) the ''WaterLightColor'' and ''WaterDarkColor'' values at the first four sectors of [0] and [1] situations ([0]=clear sky situation and [1]=cloud sky situation).
Don't be 'afraid' to try make your personal edits in there...sooner or later you will make it exactly as you like it to be

about the MaGui-UBOOTHAHD Edition: i currently no modding at all (difficulties in RL) so it will take time for a release. just be patient and i will finish it asap

07-22-15, 08:45 AM	#2
Magic1111 Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany - Sailing on U-552 in North Atlantic Posts: 4,429 Downloads: 783 Uploads: 0	I use the MEP v5 with green water, but without the stock reflection add-on. What is the difference between reflection that came with the mod, and stock reflection add-on? Here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...87&postcount=1 on post #1 when I comparison the first two pictures, I don´t see a big difference...? __________________

07-22-15, 10:47 AM	#3
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	I had the same problem like you - I didn't see any differences between those two screenshots. But take a look at those two pictures closely and you will see that colour of water is slightly different - more inky without stock reflections minimod. When I enabled MEP v5 with green water and after that stock reflections optional mod I saw it more clear. Don't know why, but MEPv5GW + stock reflections has different colour of water than vanilla MEPv5GW. Standard MEP v5 (without green water) is too much inky for my taste, I prefer more grey shade, so I decided to choose green water version. MEPv5GW with stock reflections mod is the best for me now. __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

07-22-15, 06:38 PM	#5
fitzcarraldo Argentinian Skipper Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Somewhere between Buenos Aires and the Bungo Suido Posts: 5,318 Downloads: 3345 Uploads: 0	If you see the water from UP ("satellite view"), you see a greenish tone in the water. There is some greenish reflections, not too much. Regards. Fitzcarraldo __________________ *My subject is War, and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity - Wilfred Owen.*

07-23-15, 03:36 AM	#6
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	I've made some tests and noticed, that with standard MEP v5 (non green water) and enabled stock reflections minimod colour of water is better for me and not so inky. I don't know if this minimod is compatible with MEP Green Water verson, so try to play with combo: standard MEP v5 + stock reflections minimod. __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

07-23-15, 05:38 AM	#7
Magic1111 Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany - Sailing on U-552 in North Atlantic Posts: 4,429 Downloads: 783 Uploads: 0	A pity that Makman nothing writes about this in this thread.... __________________

07-22-15, 06:38 AM	#1
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	MEP v5 with green water question I'm trying many environmental mods for SH3 looking the for best one (IMHO). I've found at Plissken incredible site very well known MEP v5 from makman94, but version with green water. MEP thread is unfortunately closed now from unknown reasons for me, so I'd like to ask here. In vanilla version of MEP v5 there is optional mod "stock reflections", but there isn't in MEP v5 with green water pack. My question - can I merge this mini mod with MEP v5 green water with no problems (with visual sensors for instance)? Do you use green water version of MEP v5? It's better looking for me than stock one, what's your opinion about it? There is no info about that here, even in MEP thread. __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

07-23-15, 06:19 AM	#8
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	+1 I hope he is working hardly on new MaGUI HAHD, which I'm impatiently waiting for. __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

07-23-15, 07:55 PM	#10
fitzcarraldo Argentinian Skipper Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Somewhere between Buenos Aires and the Bungo Suido Posts: 5,318 Downloads: 3345 Uploads: 0	Best MEP v5 for me is with Stock Reflection. It has some greenish reflections I like. If you want realistic and good looking green water try WAC Real Atlantic mod. There are two versions: 8k and 16k. Also waiting MaGUI HAHD... Regards. Fitzcarraldo __________________ *My subject is War, and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity - Wilfred Owen.*

07-23-15, 10:27 PM	#11
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	Where can I download it from? Is there at Plissken's site? What about compatibility with GWX? __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS

07-24-15, 06:53 AM	#13
jaxa The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 1,501 Downloads: 418 Uploads: 0	I'll do it, thanks. How it works with GWX? I'm thinking about visual sensors - no problems with that? __________________ SHIII + GWX 3 Gold + V16B1 hardcode fixes + SH3Commander SHIV + OM + OMEGU SHV + WoS Last edited by jaxa; 07-24-15 at 07:52 AM.

07-24-15, 10:21 AM	#15
makman94 Hellas Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,325 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 7	hello guys, yes , you can safely (no worries about visual sensors behaviour) use the mini mod with the stock reflections on the MEP with green water. i didn't made this combi to see the result so i forgot to include it in the pack of the MEP with green water but you can surely try it and see if it fits to your tastes. tip: it is very easy to make the water as you like during midday, but you need to make some edits at two parts : 1. in skycolors.dat ,edit ('play' with hue , saturation and brightness) the two images at lower left in specular.tga (or else called as reflex_atlantic.tga) 2. in envcolors.dat adjust (at your tastes) the ''WaterLightColor'' and ''WaterDarkColor'' values at the first four sectors of [0] and [1] situations ([0]=clear sky situation and [1]=cloud sky situation). Don't be 'afraid' to try make your personal edits in there...sooner or later you will make it exactly as you like it to be about the MaGui-UBOOTHAHD Edition: i currently no modding at all (difficulties in RL) so it will take time for a release. just be patient and i will finish it asap __________________ Knowledge is the only thing that nobody can ever take from you... Mediafire page:http://www.mediafire.com/folder/da50.../Makman94_Mods Last edited by makman94; 07-24-15 at 10:27 AM.