what is the best ship/sub of it day

[robthebud21]

I made this to learn what make a ship/sub so famous and a lot of fact so yeah give you fav ship/sub or a fact about.

[Sailor Steve]

Welcome Aboard!

To find out just how dangerous a question that can be, I suggest you read this old thread (just the first two pages - the rest is fluff):
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=133357

[robthebud21]

very interesting Steve about the Tench and Balao depth

[Aktungbby]

robthebud21!

[Aktungbby]

To find out just how dangerous a question that can be, I suggest you read this old thread

Having read Steve's post and the thread he references: Hands down: it's the Baleo class submarine. Not only was it effective: 120 were built; 11 lost compared to the previous Gato class: 77 built; 20 lost and the Tench class: 29 built; 1 lost...but it executed the mission. Delivering victory is what a weapon platform is all about. During the Second World War, submarines comprised less than 2 percent of the U.S. Navy, but sank over 30 percent of Japan's navy, including eight aircraft carriers. More important, American submarines contributed to the virtual strangling of the Japanese economy by sinking almost five million tons of shipping—over 60 percent of the Japanese merchant marine. Victory at sea did not come cheaply. The Submarine Force lost 52 boats and 3,506 men. During the war the U-boats sank about 2,779 ships for a total of 14.1 million tons GRT. This figure is roughly 70% of all allied shipping losses in all theatres of the war and to all hostile action. The most successful year was 1942 when over 6 million tons of shipping were sunk in the Atlantic. However that only added up to approx. 5% overall of Allied merchant shipping-given the massive replacement ship-building programs.(Hitler's Uboat War vol I & II) the mythic 600,000+ tons-a-month sunk targeted to strangle Britain was never close to being consistently achieved. Germany lost 766 U-boats 1939-1945 out of 1154 that were commissioned in WWII. You simply cannot win a war with numbers like that... (My .02 cents)

[robthebud21]

that is a cool fact aktungbby and a new I never knew

[Jimbuna]

Welcome to SubSim rob

[Platapus]

I have wondered if an American WWII version of the British M class submarine would not have been a good commerce raider.

I think it would be cool if it could be modeled into a game.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I have wondered if an American WWII version of the British M class submarine would not have been a good commerce raider.

I think it would be cool if it could be modeled into a game.

A sub class that was conceived as an undersea monitor, was converted to a seaplane carrier and then an experimental minelayer. I think the "M" stood for muddle.

[Platapus]

I am always liked the idea of being able to surface, shoot off one 12 inch round and then submerge.

No tracking, no complex firing solutions, no duds. Just a big hole in a floaty thing.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I have wondered if an American WWII version of the British M class submarine would not have been a good commerce raider.

I think it would be cool if it could be modeled into a game.

Originally Posted by Platapus

I am always liked the idea of being able to surface, shoot off one 12 inch round and then submerge.

No tracking, no complex firing solutions, no duds. Just a big hole in a floaty thing.

The French submarine Surcouf was intended for just that but never hung around long enough to prove herself.